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This is probably a stupid question but what exactly is an "army dip" because Google results aren't quite getting me what I want
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goose willis posted:This is probably a stupid question but what exactly is an "army dip" because Google results aren't quite getting me what I want Here's the Army Painter one You just open the can and dip the guy in. You can get similar results from wood stains.
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Jul 18, 2017 03:07
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I noticed that two of the three snapbfit intersessor marines can be easily converted to carry heavy weapons as they have separated arms.
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Jul 18, 2017 03:12
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Pidgin Englishman posted:Here's the Army Painter one edit: lmao it's 22 dollars on sale on Amazon nevermind Though if there's still a cheap/good one I'll buy it too
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Jul 18, 2017 03:19
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Any feedback or advice yall could give me on babby's first list?Munchables posted:Oh ok, thanks! Hope this looks ok.
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Jul 18, 2017 03:29
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JoshTheStampede posted:Except intercessors and inceptors are both on the BA list, and you always use the most recent version of a data sheet. So BAs will use the codex Intercessors when the codex drops. Not actually true, unless I'm completely misreading this: If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army? You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/codexes-your-questions-answered-july-5gw-homepage-post-2/
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Jul 18, 2017 03:31
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I'm so excited to have my rules in even more places than before!
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Jul 18, 2017 03:56
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goose willis posted:
I dipped all my tyranids in minwax stain, it's cheap
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Jul 18, 2017 04:00
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Would it be fair game to file power fist fingers to look like a 30k lightning claw? I looked at the sergeant I listed as having 2 power fists but one of them is actually a claw.
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Jul 18, 2017 04:00
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muggins posted:I dipped all my tyranids in minwax stain, it's cheap Which one specifically?
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Jul 18, 2017 04:04
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Whoops, posted it in the wrong 8th edition thread. But my friend is going to be running melee raven guard dreads so that turn 1 he can advance up the field under smoke for -2 to hit.
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Jul 18, 2017 04:10
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goose willis posted:Which one specifically? I believe it was this. I'd get a small jar and test on a lovely model you don't care about like a bigly aggressor 
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Jul 18, 2017 04:26
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muggins posted:I believe it was this. I'd get a small jar and test on a lovely model you don't care about like a bigly aggressor I don't really understand the desire to use wood stain, you have so much more control with a traditional wash. Do you just hate painting and want to do as little of it as possible to get them "done"
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Jul 18, 2017 04:47
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JesusIsTehCool posted:I don't really understand the desire to use wood stain, you have so much more control with a traditional wash. Do you just hate painting and want to do as little of it as possible to get them "done" That's literally what dipping exists for.
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Jul 18, 2017 04:48
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Munchables posted:Any feedback or advice yall could give me on babby's first list? What is your goal? If you are trying to win a big tournament then this needs to be redone entirely. If not and want a good casual game, you'll be fine.
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Jul 18, 2017 04:55
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goose willis posted:This is probably a stupid question but what exactly is an "army dip" because Google results aren't quite getting me what I want Just wash your dudes like normal JesusIsTehCool posted:I don't really understand the desire to use wood stain, you have so much more control with a traditional wash. Do you just hate painting and want to do as little of it as possible to get them "done"
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Jul 18, 2017 05:05
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Dipping is a lazy, lovely 'shortcut' that gives you inferior results and risks damaging your models.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:11
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RagnarokAngel posted:That's literally what dipping exists for. I really can't imagine enjoying 40k if you hate painting models. Thats like getting into surfing but hating getting wet or drumming but hating loud noises. You must REALLY love the lore of 40k to hate painting and play this meh of a war game.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:16
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I learned very early on that dipping wasn't a good idea when I decided to be "clever" with my first space marine, and basecoat him by... dunking him completely into the pot of chaos black. I mean, it's not really the same thing but it still soured me on the idea of any manner of submersion-based painting.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:17
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Munchables posted:Any feedback or advice yall could give me on babby's first list? Just off the top of my head... I don't much care for the Multi-Melta Devastators on foot without any Bolter dudes to catch fire for them. Either get them a Rhino or a Razorback so they can drive close enough to get into 12" of a tank that has to die, or at least give 'em some bulk with some Bolter dudes or else you'll start losing your expensive Multi-Meltas on the second or third unsaved Wound. Alternatively, switch out the MMs for Missile Launchers or Lascannons. That'll get you 48" range so you can place the Devs way the gently caress back and at least get a round or two of firing with them before they start losing models with expensive guns attached. I'm a big fan of the Missile Launcher, since it's good anti-tank and useful against hordes of light infantry too, but the Lascannon is the superior anti-tank gun if that's all you care about. Muilti-Meltas are really only better than Lascannons for killing tanks when the MM is within 12". Therefore, Multi-Meltas are best used on things that can get into 12" quickly, like Land Speeders, or things tough enough to get there, like your better class of Dreadnoughts, or both like a Land Raider. On your Devastators you'll have to get close for the MMs to be worth it, and walking a handful of expensive models across the board is just begging to get shot first thing. Similarly, that tiny Tac Squad with the Thunder Hammer Sergeant needs some way to get into melee. As is they'll probably get shot right off the board if they try to walk into charge range since five Marines really aren't that hard to kill. Thirdly, there is absolutely no benefit to having two Powerfists on the same model. You're just wasting points, since having two of the same weapon won't give you an extra attack unless (as the Lightning Claw do) it specifically says you do. Lose the second Fist and get a pistol.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:17
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Uroboros posted:What is your goal? If you are trying to win a big tournament then this needs to be redone entirely. If not and want a good casual game, you'll be fine. I just want to have a decent list for playing the game and havin fun. It'll def be casual play, thanks 
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Jul 18, 2017 05:18
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jng2058 posted:Just off the top of my head... Awesome, thanks! I was thinking about drop pods for the dedicated transport but I suppose those are one-time use anyway. My idea was to drop pod my terms into the enemy and then jump pack my vanguards into em while the rest of my dudes make their way over.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:22
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Munchables posted:Awesome, thanks! I was thinking about drop pods for the dedicated transport but I suppose those are one-time use anyway. My idea was to drop pod my terms into the enemy and then jump pack my vanguards into em while the rest of my dudes make their way over. If you want transport for them, take rhinos or razorbacks. You want stuff they can pile out of and then charge if you're planning to get into melee.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:32
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Munchables posted:Awesome, thanks! I was thinking about drop pods for the dedicated transport but I suppose those are one-time use anyway. My idea was to drop pod my terms into the enemy and then jump pack my vanguards into em while the rest of my dudes make their way over. Terminators don't need a drop pod, they can deep strike on their own. The advantage of a drop pod over razorbacks or rhinos is they allow space marines to get into close combat/rapid fire range./melta range turn 1 if they want. I haven't run that kind of space marine list in 8th but in general it's a sort of "all or nothing" kind of strategy. If you want to get up in their face turn one its best to have all your army in there, if its only part they won't be nearly as effective. Sending just one or two of your units gives your enemy something to focus on, an clear plan, dumping 6 or 7 units will often make your opponent feel overwhelmed and they will miss play.
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Jul 18, 2017 05:50
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http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2017/07/this-weeks-pre-orders-with-us-and.html?m=1 Price leaks for the space marine codex. 50 bucks base, 80 dollars for the collectors edition and...250 dollary-doos for the "primaris edition". The gently caress could be in that?
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Jul 18, 2017 06:47
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I was really hoping after the decent index prices that codex's were not gonna be completely off the moon, freaking yikes.
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Jul 18, 2017 07:08
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JesusIsTehCool posted:Terminators don't need a drop pod, they can deep strike on their own. The advantage of a drop pod over razorbacks or rhinos is they allow space marines to get into close combat/rapid fire range./melta range turn 1 if they want. I haven't run that kind of space marine list in 8th but in general it's a sort of "all or nothing" kind of strategy. If you want to get up in their face turn one its best to have all your army in there, if its only part they won't be nearly as effective. Sending just one or two of your units gives your enemy something to focus on, an clear plan, dumping 6 or 7 units will often make your opponent feel overwhelmed and they will miss play. Oh ok, I'll look into how drop pods work a little more then. Thenatically for my chapter I like the idea of crashing down on top of the enemy and crushin em or a slow lumbering advance that takes a lot to take down.
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Jul 18, 2017 07:11
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RagnarokAngel posted:http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2017/07/this-weeks-pre-orders-with-us-and.html?m=1 Gonna bet the Primaris edition is a limited release with codex + the new toys
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Jul 18, 2017 07:17
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RagnarokAngel posted:http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2017/07/this-weeks-pre-orders-with-us-and.html?m=1 Hrm. Probably not going to grab the reivers and dread at those prices. Also now I'm convinced the Repulsors will be $90.
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Jul 18, 2017 07:23
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Corrode posted:Gonna bet the Primaris edition is a limited release with codex + the new toys I think its more likely its like a hat and a usb drive
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Jul 18, 2017 07:29
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Well, at least the Aggressors aren't going to be centurion-priced like my friend was expecting.
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Jul 18, 2017 07:29
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Welp. Guess I'm using Ebay for any new releases. Like, when the Aggressors look like the best-priced set of the group, you know something's up.
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Jul 18, 2017 07:35
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meet the new gw, same as the old gw 
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Jul 18, 2017 07:58
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:meet the new gw, same as the old gw Nah
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Jul 18, 2017 08:05
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JesusIsTehCool posted:I doubt this is true and it is likely just an attempt to convince people that its ok to buy kits with old marines in them (I wouldn't) Why not? Squatmars are cool looking models, are currently supported, and if they lose support in the future you can just play your old Marines as Primaris. Seems like a low risk purchase to me.
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Jul 18, 2017 08:15
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I certainly much prefer the look of squatmars to bigmars
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Jul 18, 2017 08:24
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Cainer posted:I was really hoping after the decent index prices that codex's were not gonna be completely off the moon, freaking yikes. The codices are all hardcover so the price is about what i expected tbh.
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Jul 18, 2017 08:38
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Yeah hopefully there'll be cheaper ebook versions. Horus Heresy redbooks come out to like $40, I'm not dropping $50 on a 40k codex. I don't need 80 pages on how awesome the ultima founding was and how primaris marines are so much better in every way, I just want my chapter tactics.
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Jul 18, 2017 09:49
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LordAba posted:You know how the raven guard get rerolls for jump pack troops and -1 to hit? Well, the orks were just leaked, and ork units get a +1ld bonus when in max sized units. Link?
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Jul 18, 2017 12:01
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Munchables posted:I certainly much prefer the look of squatmars to bigmars Glad I'm not the only one...
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