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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Hamprince is right about Brazil's government being extremely corrupt, and it goes all the way from the Brasilia down to the local municipalities.

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

This reminds me of how often libertarians try to argue that city states like Singapore or Hong Kong are the way to go, without considering that those states are so wealthy because they were able to exploit a special advantage in global trade. An advantage which Hong Kong has already lost since China has opened up massively to the global market.

Lol at aspiring to make our country more like Singapore.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Yinlock posted:

you mean like every single communist movement?

cuba

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/PortlandDSA/status/886394048444940288

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

EZLN

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/mjntendency/status/886558239483191297

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Hmm, checks out.

Anarchists: published a journal about space travel

Marxist-Leninists: forged a fragmented peasant nation into a spacefaring global power

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

GalacticAcid posted:

Marxist-Leninists: forged a fragmented peasant nation into a spacefaring global power

after murdering all the anarchists :laugh:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

This but anarchist: https://youtu.be/g1Sq1Nr58hM

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


If the UK democratically agreed to nationalize all industry & corporate assets without compensation, you can bet on the prior owners lobbying & propagandizing for foreign intervention. They wouldn't even need to wage war, they could just as easily arrange for sanctions or blockades and such until conditions stagnate and they capitulate to their demands. A new regime coming out of revolution might be a sufficient condition for foreign fuckery but it certainly isn't necessary.

Karl Barks posted:

people talk about how reformism can just be rolled back via capitalist class seizing power again via democratic or non-democratic means, but can't revolutionary governments be rolled back as well through counter revolution or "reformism" from the right?

hello and welcome to the ultra left.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Ruzihm posted:

If the UK democratically agreed to nationalize all industry & corporate assets without compensation, you can bet on the prior owners lobbying & propagandizing for foreign intervention. They wouldn't even need to wage war, they could just as easily arrange for sanctions or blockades and such until conditions stagnate and they capitulate to their demands. A new regime coming out of revolution might be a sufficient condition for foreign fuckery but it certainly isn't necessary.


hello and welcome to the ultra left.

in that sense, revolution in developing countries makes sense as a way to prevent foreign intervention. but i highly doubt the US would invade the UK to enforce capital controls or privatization, in which case - reformism seems to make more sense?

Karl Barks fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jul 17, 2017

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
In the event of a possible socialist electoral victory, the army would simply declare a state of crisis and pull a coup, and the civil service/deep state would simply declare it legal after the fact. Either the socialists have their own paramilitary wing to enforce their claims, and win the resulting civil war (i.e. you get a revolution), or you get a Pinochet.

You seem to be working under the delusion that right wingers respect the rule of law or will of the majority - they do not. They will happily discard the very idea of the consent of the governed, in order to maintain the power and wealth inequalities in society.

Look at all the Trump people excusing foreign interference in the US election. Had the Russians interfered in favor of a democrat, they would be screaming bloody murder. Yet, these very same 'patriots' shrug their shoulders at the Trump fiasco right now. Why? Because they're hypocrites. Don't take their banging on about law and order at face value, its a matter of convenience.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

5th international

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTKj5h5WHTo

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



Posadism-Third World from the Sun-ism.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
nobody talks about esperanto and the promise of internationalism it holds...

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Darkman Fanpage posted:

nobody talks about esperanto and the promise of internationalism it holds...

I have a feeling that William Shatner movie is one of the reasons it hasn't taken off.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hideo Kojima was right about language being super important to culture. I will literally die before giving up my English, especially my weird spanglish redneck way of talking

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
no you cant infect somebody with a virus based on the language they speak larry

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
the more i think about that plot device the more i hate it.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

linguistic hegemony aiding imperalism is real

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Larry Parrish posted:

Hideo Kojima was right about language being super important to culture. I will literally die before giving up my English, especially my weird spanglish redneck way of talking

same but with calling carbonated beverages "pop"

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Darkman Fanpage posted:

no you cant infect somebody with a virus based on the language they speak larry

Yeah that games plot sucked.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
vocal chord parasite

copulation

dineh

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Business Gorillas posted:

same but with calling carbonated beverages "pop"

I used to do this but somehow transitioned to soda and I don't know how or why; it was in early adulthood too iirc

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Larry Parrish posted:

Yeah that games plot sucked.

Skullface's plan was stupid but I think that was kind of the point.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

the hospital with the tapes was super creepy though

Serf
May 5, 2011


Business Gorillas posted:

same but with calling carbonated beverages "pop"

coke

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


soda

Rhukatah
Feb 26, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
fizzy drink

wtf at calling all soft drinks "coke"

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Skullface's plan was stupid but English killing other languages is definitely a thing and I wonder if humanity survives until the next century there will be only like twelve language blocks left.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

Skullface's plan was stupid but English killing other languages is definitely a thing and I wonder if humanity survives until the next century there will be only like twelve language blocks left.

The more cultural interaction there is across groups, the less likely there is for deviations in language to develop and the more likely it is for language to formally consolidate. Even just within England, there used to be a massive dialectical diversity in terms of how people spoke English, which severely narrowed with the development of radio, film, and television. It isn't necessarily an imperial-subject interaction, but a sociohistorical development of common cultural touchstones. The fact that it is largely a legacy of colonial relations is simply an unfortunate fact of our own development as a nascent global civilization.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Plutonis posted:

Skullface's plan was stupid but English killing other languages is definitely a thing and I wonder if humanity survives until the next century there will be only like twelve language blocks left.

TBH i think its more likely that English just fuses with another big language or two than replacing them all gradually. Its already full of a bunch of French and German words. And a lot of people I know speak some kind of spanglish. My great-uncle married this younger chinese chick, who's son is hilarious because he sounds like a character from sleeping dogs

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

That's why I'm saying "blocks". I could see for example Portunol becoming an actual widespread dialect in South America for example.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

American English is bound to pick up more Spanish & Portuguese words as Brazil becomes more culturally relevant too.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

American English is bound to pick up more Spanish & Portuguese words as Brazil becomes more culturally relevant too.

Don't give Plutonis any more false hope

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Larry Parrish posted:

Don't give Plutonis any more false hope

Americans appropriate the lamest parts of foreign cultures, and we only take in the good parts when they're literally shoved down our throats in fusion restaurants.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I haven't had any hope since 2015

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
why can't everyone just become bilingual

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


i love to try having conversations in spanish with my mexican-american friends


they can't speak spanish so it just pisses them off but their abuelos are pleased as fuckin punch that some guero speaks the language (badly)



meanwhile I can't understand what my venezuelan relatives say because of their weird accents

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