Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

empty whippet box posted:

So your plan to attract leftists who have dutifully voted (D) for over a decade, and are tired of the party continuing to go further right, is to insult them and pretend their concerns are nonsense? Great strategy, after all Hillary won by three million votes doing the same thing in 2016 so how could this possibly go wrong?

I'll gladly admit I'm an idiot, because I'll probably bitch out and vote for the next center right democrat out of fear of the alternative again.

If they can't point to the slightest scrap of proof for this supposed slide rightward and instead just keep throwing around the word Centrist in the way Fox would Socialist, Terrorist or Radical? Yes!

Show me what part of the Democratic platform of 2016 was more right wing than the Democratic platform of 2008.

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Jul 18, 2017

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evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

Forgall posted:

As long as people like you are in control of Democratic party it will keep losing no matter how anyone in this thread votes.

I'm not in control of the Democratic Party and have no need to lie about who is and isn't a worthless shitlord because I'm not running for office but you go right on threatening to support republicans if literally everyone who votes democratic isn't nice to you.

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evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

if I ran for office there wouldn't be one "deplorables" or "clinging to their guns and religion" comment it would likely happen every other day, which is one of the many reasons I am not a politician

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:23

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

evilweasel posted:

if I ran for office there wouldn't be one "deplorables" or "clinging to their guns and religion" comment it would likely happen every other day, which is one of the many reasons I am not a politician

I'd say "that didn't stop trump", but you're probably too principled to commit treason, and don't have a propaganda engine on your side.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:29

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

So wait, now McConnel just wants to yank out the ACA and wait two years to craft a replacement? What are the odds of that getting through?

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:31

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Jonas Albrecht posted:

So wait, now McConnel just wants to yank out the ACA and wait two years to craft a replacement? What are the odds of that getting through?

Slimmer than the odds of the replacement bill that failed miserably.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:34

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Jonas Albrecht posted:

So wait, now McConnel just wants to yank out the ACA and wait two years to craft a replacement? What are the odds of that getting through?

It depends whether it has to go to the house again.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:34

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

Guys, I think the GOP is bad.

Jonas Albrecht fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jul 18, 2017

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:35

awesmoe: Nov 30, 2005; Pillbug

Shady Amish Terror posted:

I don't know how much I have to contribute to the topic, but it's sort of fascinating the vitriol that intrapolitical squabbles bring out here. It's like radicalization in miniature. For the democrats, it seems to fall into two camps of 'vote the less evil person during the general elections' and 'vote for the more progressive person in the primaries'. These positions aren't actually at odds. These positions aren't actually at odds. But then somehow this seems to breed a corollary of 'don't vote for centrists (even in the general if they won the primary)', and 'don't vote for progressives (even in the primary)'. It doesn't seem to matter which posters take which tack, the brush is spread wide. And then this big dumb argument gets relitigated every few pages.

I embrace death and the cosmic uncaring of the void. It is at least equitable in its contempt.

very very few people here have said the bold bit and those that have are wrong and dumb

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:37

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Guy, I think the GOP is bad.

Bold claim.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:38

Inferior Third Season: Jan 15, 2005

evilweasel posted:

if I ran for office there wouldn't be one "deplorables" or "clinging to their guns and religion" comment it would likely happen every other day, which is one of the many reasons I am not a politician

I bet if someone went all in with these types of things, they'd actually be quite successful. I don't think that everything Trump did can be replicated by the left, but "double down, don't apologize" in response to 'gaffes' could be a better strategy in many instances than what the Dems have been doing.

At the very least, the Dems should run a few suicide candidates in non-competitive R districts to throw poo poo at the wall, and see what sticks.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:40

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

15 goddamn seconds later.

"Oh, like how you said you';d give healthcare, but gave us the ACA? gently caress you, you'll just give your corproate masters a bailout. No way in hell are we voting for you in 2018!"

*Republicans get 60 seats in the senate.*

You getting the problem yet? An actively hostile audience like the left will hate a simple message Dems put out and take it as a sign that the Dems hate them. Hell, how many people in this thread continue to argue that Obamacare is beyond awful, and the Dems are the reason why it isn't better?

I like how backing wildly popular legislation that would help almost every single American isn't even considered as an option for winning because a few ultrarich donors oppose it.

"But how will we get into power if Americans want single payer and we don't want to pass it :ohdear:

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:41

awesmoe: Nov 30, 2005; Pillbug

VitalSigns posted:

I like how backing wildly popular legislation that would help almost every single American isn't even considered as an option for winning because a few ultrarich donors oppose it.

"But how will we get into power if Americans want single payer and we don't want to pass it "

first, single payer is a concept, not a piece of legislation. pieces of legislation get scored, pieces of legislation have unpopular sections like "everyone will now have to pay this much more in taxes to pay for this" and "we're going to nationalize 20% of our economy, hope it works out, if you lose your job don't worry about it its fine"

second, 33% isn't wildly popular - http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/339247-poll-support-grows-for-single-payer-healthcare

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:47

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

empty whippet box posted:

Here's the problem: I have voted for people with (D) by their name all my life even though not one of them other than sanders actually preached what I believed. I've been a dutiful democrat this whole time and they just keep moving further right.

So do you actually vote in primaries? And not just presidential ones? Because that's the only way you're going to make any difference whatsoever, no matter how small, in whether you get a lovely Democrat or a non-lovely Democrat onto the ticket.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:48

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/JesseInOH/statu...from-surgery%2F

This is what McCain has to show for all his loyal support of right-wing policies over the years, just because of that one time he told that racist old woman to use her inside voice.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:50

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

Did I suddenly wander into the Democrats are a Waste thread?

C'mon, tweet, you orange gently caress, tweet.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:51

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Agents are GO! posted:

Did I suddenly wander into the Democrats are a Waste thread?

C'mon, tweet, you orange gently caress, tweet.

Send him a bran muffin.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:52

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

Mustached Demon posted:

Send him a bran muffin.

If I could send The King In Orange something, it likely would not be a bran muffin.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:55

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Agents are GO! posted:

If I could send The King In Orange something, it likely would not be a bran muffin.

I don't think an actual turd would end up reaching him.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:04

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

VitalSigns posted:

I like how backing wildly popular legislation that would help almost every single American isn't even considered as an option for winning because a few ultrarich donors oppose it.

"But how will we get into power if Americans want single payer and we don't want to pass it "

WHAT did I say? "Dems actually hate all leftist policy and just serve their donors, gently caress them" is so hard wired into leftists brains, running on it would only hurt them.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:06

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

Fulchrum posted:

If they can't point to the slightest scrap of proof for this supposed slide rightward and instead just keep throwing around the word Centrist in the way Fox would Socialist, Terrorist or Radical? Yes!

Show me what part of the Democratic platform of 2016 was more right wing than the Democratic platform of 2008.

It's best to swing back twenty years, rather than 8.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29611

Democratic Party, 1996 posted:

Introduction

In 1996, America will choose the President who will lead us from the millennium which saw the birth of our nation, and into a future that has all the potential to be even greater than our magnificent past. Today's Democratic Party is ready for that future. Our vision is simple. We want an America that gives all Americans the chance to live out their dreams and achieve their God-given potential. We want an America that is still the world's strongest force for peace and freedom. And we want an America that is coming together around our enduring values, instead of drifting apart.

Today's Democratic Party is determined to renew America's most basic bargain: Opportunity to every American, and responsibility from every American. And today's Democratic Party is determined to reawaken the great sense of American community.

Opportunity. Responsibility. Community. These are the values that made America strong. These are the values of the Democratic Party. These are the values that must guide us into the future.

Today, America is moving forward with the strong Presidential leadership it deserves. The economy is stronger, the deficit is lower, and government is smaller. Education is better, our environment is cleaner, families are healthier, and our streets are safer. There is more opportunity in America, more responsibility in our homes, and more peace in the world.

Today's Democratic Party stands proudly on the record of the last four years. We are living in an age of enormous possibility, and we are working to make sure that all Americans can make the most of it. America is moving in the right direction.

Now we must move forward, and we know the course we must follow. We need a smaller, more effective, more efficient, less bureaucratic government that reflects our time-honored values. The American people do not want big government solutions and they do not want empty promises. They want a government that is for them, not against them; that doesn't interfere with their lives but enhances their quality of life. They want a course that is reasonable, help that is realistic, and solutions that can be delivered -- a moderate, achievable, common-sense agenda that will improve people's daily lives and not increase the size of government.

That is what today's Democratic Party offers: the end of the era of big government and a final rejection of the misguided call to leave our citizens to fend for themselves -- and bold leadership into the future: To meet America's challenges, protect America's values, and fulfill American dreams.

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

Democratic Party, 2016 posted:

Preamble
In 2016, Democrats meet in Philadelphia with the same basic belief that animated the Continental Congress when they gathered here 240 years ago: Out of many, we are one.

Under President Obama�s leadership, and thanks to the hard work and determination of the American people, we have come a long way from the Great Recession and the Republican policies that triggered it. American businesses have now added 14.8 million jobs since private-sector job growth turned positive in early 2010. Twenty million people have gained health insurance coverage. The American auto industry just had its best year ever. And we are getting more of our energy from the sun and wind, and importing less oil from overseas.

But too many Americans have been left out and left behind. They are working longer hours with less security. Wages have barely budged and the racial wealth gap remains wide, while the cost of everything from childcare to a college education has continued to rise. And for too many families, the dream of homeownership is out of reach. As working people struggle, the top one percent accrues more wealth and more power. Republicans in Congress have chosen gridlock and dysfunction over trying to find solutions to the real challenges we face. It�s no wonder that so many feel like the system is rigged against them.

Democrats believe that cooperation is better than conflict, unity is better than division, empowerment is better than resentment, and bridges are better than walls.

It�s a simple but powerful idea: we are stronger together.

Democrats believe we are stronger when we have an economy that works for everyone�an economy that grows incomes for working people, creates good-paying jobs, and puts a middle-class life within reach for more Americans. Democrats believe we can spur more sustainable economic growth, which will create good-paying jobs and raise wages. And we can have more economic fairness, so the rewards are shared broadly, not just with those at the top. We need an economy that prioritizes long-term investment over short-term profit-seeking, rewards the common interest over self-interest, and promotes innovation and entrepreneurship.

We believe that today�s extreme level of income and wealth inequality�where the majority of the economic gains go to the top one percent and the richest 20 people in our country own more wealth than the bottom 150 million�makes our economy weaker, our communities poorer, and our politics poisonous.

And we know that our nation�s long struggle with race is far from over. More than half a century after Rosa Parks sat and Dr. King marched and John Lewis bled, more than half a century after C�sar Ch�vez, Dolores Huerta, and Larry Itliong organized, race still plays a significant role in determining who gets ahead in America and who gets left behind. We must face that reality and we must fix it.

We believe a good education is a basic right of all Americans, no matter what zip code they live in. We will end the school-to-prison pipeline and build a cradle-to-college pipeline instead, where every child can live up to his or her God-given potential.

We believe in helping Americans balance work and family without fear of punishment or penalty. We believe in at last guaranteeing equal pay for women. And as the party that created Social Security, we believe in protecting every American�s right to retire with dignity.

We firmly believe that the greed, recklessness, and illegal behavior on Wall Street must be brought to an end. Wall Street must never again be allowed to threaten families and businesses on Main Street.

Democrats believe we are stronger when we protect citizens� right to vote, while stopping corporations� outsized influence in elections. We will fight to end the broken campaign finance system, overturn the disastrous Citizens United decision, restore the full power of the Voting Rights Act, and return control of our elections to the American people.

Democrats believe that climate change poses a real and urgent threat to our economy, our national security, and our children�s health and futures, and that Americans deserve the jobs and security that come from becoming the clean energy superpower of the 21st century.

Democrats believe we are stronger and safer when America brings the world together and leads with principle and purpose. We believe we should strengthen our alliances, not weaken them. We believe in the power of development and diplomacy. We believe our military should be the best-trained, best-equipped fighting force in the world, and that we must do everything we can to honor and support our veterans. And we know that only the United States can mobilize common action on a truly global scale, to take on the challenges that transcend borders, from international terrorism to climate change to health pandemics.

Above all, Democrats are the party of inclusion. We know that diversity is not our problem�it is our promise. As Democrats, we respect differences of perspective and belief, and pledge to work together to move this country forward, even when we disagree. With this platform, we do not merely seek common ground�we strive to reach higher ground.

We are proud of our heritage as a nation of immigrants. We know that today�s immigrants are tomorrow�s teachers, doctors, lawyers, government leaders, soldiers, entrepreneurs, activists, PTA members, and pillars of our communities.

We believe in protecting civil liberties and guaranteeing civil rights and voting rights, women�s rights and workers� rights, LGBT rights, and rights for people with disabilities. We believe America is still, as Robert Kennedy said, �a great country, an unselfish country, and a compassionate country.�

These principles stand in sharp contrast to the Republicans, who have nominated as the standard-bearer for their party and their candidate for President a man who seeks to appeal to Americans� basest differences, rather than our better natures.

The stakes have been high in previous elections. But in 2016, the stakes can be measured in human lives�in the number of immigrants who would be torn from their homes; in the number of faithful and peaceful Muslims who would be barred from even visiting our shores; in the number of allies alienated and dictators courted; in the number of Americans who would lose access to health care and see their rights ripped away.

This election is about more than Democrats and Republicans. It is about who we are as a nation, and who we will be in the future.

Two hundred and forty years ago, in Philadelphia, we started a revolution of ideas and of action that continues to this day. Since then, our union has been tested many times, through bondage and civil war, segregation and depression, two world wars and the threat of nuclear annihilation. Generations of Americans fought and marched and organized to widen the circle of opportunity and dignity�and we are fighting still.

Despite what some say, America is and has always been great�but not because it has been perfect. What makes America great is our unerring belief that we can make it better. We can and we will build a more just economy, a more equal society, and a more perfect union�because we are stronger together.

Of course, I'm firmly of the opinion that the Dems realized with Obama that it's best to campaign on progressiveness and govern on your actual ideals rather than show your hand and lose millennial voters.

e: For funsies let's hop back another 20 and see what happened

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29606

Democratic Party, 1976 posted:

Preamble

We meet to adopt a Democratic platform, and to nominate Democratic candidates for President and Vice President of the United States, almost 200 years from the day that our revolutionary founders declared this country's independence from the British crown.

The founder of the Democratic Party�Thomas Jefferson of Virginia�set forth the reasons for this separation and expressed the basic tenets of democratic government: That all persons are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness�That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among People, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

These truths may still be self-evident, but they have been tragically abused by our national government during the past eight years.

Two Republican Administrations have both misused and mismanaged the powers of national government, obstructing the pursuit of economic and social opportunity, causing needless hardship and despair among millions of our fellow citizens.

Two Republican Administrations have betrayed the people's trust and have created suspicion and distrust of government through illegal and unconstitutional actions.

We acknowledge that no political party, nor any President or Vice President, possesses answers to all of the problems that face us as a nation, but neither do we concede that every human problem is beyond our control. We recognize further that the present distrust of government cannot be transformed easily into confidence.

It is within our power to recapture, in the governing of this nation, the basic tenets of fairness, equality, opportunity and rule of law that motivated our revolutionary founders.

We do pledge a government that has as its guiding concern, the needs and aspirations of all the people, rather than the perquisites and special privilege of the few.

We do pledge a government that listens, that is truthful, and that is not afraid to admit its mistakes.

We do pledge a government that will be committed to a fairer distribution of wealth, income and power.

We do pledge a government in which the new Democratic President will work closely with the leaders of the Congress on a regular, systematic basis so that the people can see the results of unity.

We do pledge a government in which the Democratic members in both houses of Congress will seek a unity of purpose on the principles of the party.

Now, as we enter our 200th year as a nation, we as a party, with a sense of our obligations, pledge a reaffirmation of this nation's founding principles.

In this platform of the Democratic Party, we present a clear alternative to the failures of preceding administrations and a projection of the common future to which we aspire: a world at peace; a just society of equals; a society without violence; a society in consonance with its natural environment, affording freedom to the individual and the opportunity to develop to the fullest human Potential.

Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Jul 18, 2017

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:13

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Fulchrum posted:

I don't think an actual turd would end up reaching him.

If I could I'd send him a bucket of HF with "KFC!!" Sharpied over the label.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:17

Avirosb: Nov 21, 2016; Everyone makes pisstakes

Boy, the Democratic party sure have changed since 1828.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:17

Spaced God: Feb 8, 2014; All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!

The SCOTUS stay on the ban is falling apart bit by bit. Hopefully good news?
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/887254526591369216

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:20

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

Reading over that it's actually pretty interesting to see how the 2016 plank places less emphasis on "America" and way more emphasis on our place within the world at large.

Avirosb posted:

Boy, the Democratic party sure have changed since 1828.

20 years is enough of a hop that people who were juniors or just getting started have become party leaders. It's a much more effective to look at shifts a party goes through generationally rather than per election.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:21

Craig K: Nov 10, 2016; puck

Mustached Demon posted:

If I could I'd send him a bucket of HF with "KFC!!" Sharpied over the label.

please

i'd send him a lovingly handcrafted note reminding him that his exploits have made the surname "trump" a laughingstock to the entire world and all but the absolute godawfully stupidest 97% of americans and will remain so for generations, long after everybody on this earth have shuffled off this mortal coil

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:22

Craig K: Nov 10, 2016; puck

i like cutting deep, basically

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:23

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Craig K posted:

please

i'd send him a lovingly handcrafted note reminding him that his exploits have made the surname "trump" a laughingstock to the entire world and all but the absolute godawfully stupidest 97% of americans and will remain so for generations, long after everybody on this earth have shuffled off this mortal coil

Fake News!!!!

No really I'm not serious at all. HFs just hilariously toxic and I want a magical fluorinated bullet to end the madness.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:26

paternity suitor: Aug 2, 2016

Most of us are of the age that we just so happened to grow up in the era of Democrats swinging towards the center. They did it because it worked and it started under Bill Clinton in 1992. It is not written in stone.

I don't expect the people who have been in power for 25 years thanks to Clinton centrism to just be like yeah ok, let's go hard left guys. Pre 1992 Democrats were much more liberal but also caricatures of ineffectiveness. There's a reason they did it. Remember when common wisdom was that only Democrats with southern accents could actually win the presidency? loving poo poo man, Watergate happened, Carter got elected, and after ONE term the public was like gently caress it Ronnies got a handsome smile. GOP 4 Lyfe. So give it some time.

I still think there's a wave of Sanders inspired candidates coming in the near and long term. Will not surprise me to see Dem candidates get primaried from the left the same way Republicans have. I've seen it already at the local level. I think Bernie will be the Goldwater of the left and that's not an insult. 20 years from now we'll be reading about how so and so started his/her political career knocking on doors for Sanders.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:09

El Pollo Blanco: Jun 12, 2013; by sebmojo

Pre 1992 the Democrats had control of the House and Senate almost uninterrupted from the 30s though?

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:15

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

kislyak for all of his espionage gets to be a senator and live a life of wealth and power until his inevitable massive coronary

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/887263030903533569

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:19

Lightning Lord: Feb 21, 2013; $200 a day, plus expenses

paternity suitor posted:

I think Bernie will be the Goldwater of the left and that's not an insult. 20 years from now we'll be reading about how so and so started his/her political career knocking on doors for Sanders.

Goldwater would nowadays be a massive RINO, considering he was opposed to the religious right, was pro-abortion and became a gay rights advocate late in life because of his grandson Ty Ross.

Never thought I would think that Barry fuckin' Goldwater would be drat better than the current GOP crop.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:23

Inferior Third Season: Jan 15, 2005

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Pre 1992 the Democrats had control of the House and Senate almost uninterrupted from the 30s though?

Yes, which is why the combination of Carter losing, Reagan getting credit for the fall of the Soviet Union (along with his later deification), and Republicans smacking the poo poo out of Democrats in the 1994 midterms were such formative experiences for the current Democratic leadership. They were also well aware that Bill Clinton was only elected in 1992 because Perot was a spoiler for H.W. Bush and because Bush committed the one true Republican sin of raising taxes.

Pelosi, Schumer, Hillary, and company saw the Democratic party of their youth fall apart and become unelectable. For some reason, they can't comprehend that the rules have changed again, and are still acting like it's the mid-90s.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:31

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Lightning Lord posted:

Goldwater would nowadays be a massive RINO, considering he was opposed to the religious right, was pro-abortion and became a gay rights advocate late in life because of his grandson Ty Ross.

Never thought I would think that Barry fuckin' Goldwater would be drat better than the current GOP crop.

Nah, Goldwater would probably just be another Rand Paul.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:33

Randbrick: Sep 28, 2002

It would be really nice to see the democratic party take the initiative on something... I hear encouraging stuff out of state and local politics, more effort to bring in young people, more interest in locall organizational positions.

I'm not seeing a lot out of the DNC, I'm hoping they're still heavily restaffing under Perez and Ellison.

I haven't heard much of or from the dccc.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:34

Inferior Third Season: Jan 15, 2005

Randbrick posted:

It would be really nice to see the democratic party take the initiative on something... I hear encouraging stuff out of state and local politics, more effort to bring in young people, more interest in locall organizational positions.

I'm not seeing a lot out of the DNC, I'm hoping they're still heavily restaffing under Perez and Ellison.

I haven't heard much of or from the dccc.

Here, have an update:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/sta...-bumper-sticker

:eng99:

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:36

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Obama and holder are still on track to head up their redistricting task force, too. My understanding is they're using a two-pronged approach, wielding the star power of Obama and other big names to help swing key elections on the state level, and litigating on the legal side to bring an end to gerrymandering. You'll see a lot more out of them as the summer and fall progress, because the first big challenge for them is the Virginia state level elections this fall.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:38

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

silicone thrills posted:

Anyone think the Mar A Lago logs will be fruitful? I feel like they, at the very least, will be entertaining.

Escorts and Russian Mobsters I'm guessing.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:47

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

Breitbart part 2

When the civil war starts I'm all for putting bounties on all these traitors heads.
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WANT to Make America Great: DISBAND DC and politicians.
THEY are and will forever BE the problem.
They DON'T REPRESENT: they LINE THEIR WITH POCKETS WITH $$$, power and control and WANT BIG BIG GOVT....

Doesn't matter if you are a R or a D: SAME PROBLEM.
I DESPISE and DETEST every breathing one of them, LIVING like kings and queens OFF OUR TAXES and MUCH GREATER and BETTER than we do or can BECAUSE OF THEM...You can name 4-5 that don't deserve this, but not many more....
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I know ThREE PEOPLE on medicaid, one drove a Ferrari, one never paid taxes and one grew up with masnions and benzes!!! I KID U NOT!!!!!
-Note: share:to lib scumbgz, its ok ur fcnn golden boy obama added 43% to welfare rolls, dropped billions in cash to Iran, built mosques at 100 mil tax $$, destroyed habius corpus, killed the only stable country in Afrikas leader Kadaffi to stop his currency competeting with the euro and dollar, allowed Clinton to use arab spring as an excuse to do it and destabilize africa and flood the world with starving refugees, caused 30 special forces to GET KILLED not allowing them to fight the enemy, ACLU said hes destroying civil liberties, admitted his policies helped top 1% get richer, used a MONSANTO exec to advise FDA, let cops get executed with Holder kissing blm azzes, tried to kill the middle class by regulations and taxes ( they provide over 52% of all jobs) , ran a corrupt Doj, used the IRS to punish his enemies, let masses of illegal gang members into our nation, gave ge and cisco massive tax breaks , saw cities burn with riots ( but it was ok since they then qualify for billions in federL funds that they divy up behind the scenes) decimated our military, and tripled our debt.....thats all ok with
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Another libbie living in La-la Land. Or are you one of the worthless welfare leeches who got insurance on everyone else's dime? Most people aren't pathetic pieces of garbage that depend on the government to pay for everything for them, and I think they'll welcome the repeal, getting insurance that is actually useful again, and not having to pay for stuff they'll never use, like maternity benefits for men.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:49

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 07:44

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

awesmoe posted:

first, single payer is a concept, not a piece of legislation. pieces of legislation get scored, pieces of legislation have unpopular sections like "everyone will now have to pay this much more in taxes to pay for this" and "we're going to nationalize 20% of our economy, hope it works out, if you lose your job don't worry about it its fine"

second, 33% isn't wildly popular - http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/339247-poll-support-grows-for-single-payer-healthcare

Approval shoots up over 60% when you call it Medicare-for-all , you probably already know that tho

# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:52

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