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regulargonzalez posted:But what if I enjoy seeing people getting triggered Moan about it less, I guess?
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Escobarbarian posted:Moan about it less, I guess? Way to victim-shame. Typical cis-male response.
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bloody SJWs ruining the thread on the show largely about mistreatment of women by men  This episode grew in my estimations quite a lot after a rewatch. Kinda like the Mitchum brothers now. And I feel like this has to be the final "Dougie in trouble!" storyline, which means we should be moving on to other things.
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regulargonzalez posted:Way to victim-shame. Typical cis-male response. Please return to GBS
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regulargonzalez posted:Way to victim-shame. Typical cis-male response. god shut up
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All I will say re: dougie nights is what I noticed the next day after him and Janey-E kissed he went off on his own to the car to go to work, which seemed some degree of improvement from all previous episodes where he had been basically lead around by the arm by people.
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zeal posted:I feel like some people are paying too much attention to how much less Cooper is able to exert himself through the dougie-construct-body, and not enough to the ways he's actually exerted himself thus far. Same. I also read Cooper as maybe over-processing information rather than under-processing, maybe like someone on some heavy psychoactive. We've been shown plenty of times that he is also having visions of the red room, getting messages from the one-armed man and the Arm, and other strange Black Lodge icons and visual cues. The fact that he is focusing on loaded symbolic objects from his past such as flags, pins, shoes for a long time and seems to have moments of profound emotion like when he cries at the sight of Sonny Jim in the window or contrasts the aged face of Bushnell with the ideal young boxer image on the poster points toward a complex character dealing with the passing of time which is a far cry from a toddler's odyssey.
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I think it's directed at Criterion collectors more than being an actual improvement. Criterion collectors obsessively buy most releases and there are few Criterion collectors who are going to be able to live with themselves if the hole on their shelf is no less than a David Lynch film. Note: I am not judging CC collectors. I understand them. They're collecting great stuff. They're just ... collectors, and have all the peculiarities that come with getting really into collecting anything else. TLDR - object fetishization InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Just recorded the podcast and we were debating whether or not that weird sheen on the hotel room door when Tammy approaches was something deliberate or another weird reflection type thing ala the plane windows. Watched it back in slow-mo and it's DEFINITELY on purpose. It's a kind of wobble.
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I think Dougie as cogniscentish/shambling-Cooper or having a modicum of agency happens when the scripts needs it or it's a comedy bit. It doesn't give any grounding that there was any consent. Also Jany-E "I love you" issue just compounds the problems. I had a feeling the Dougie arc would have to address Jayn-E having sexual advances towards him, but I honestly thought it would end in obliviousness-rejection as punch line. Boy howdy, I was wrong. I'm kinda impressed how Lynch did some awkward and terrible depictions of the mentally disabled twice in one episode. The Johnny Horne stuff, especially with the straight-jacket is really uncomfortable. Edit: Escobarbarian posted:weird reflection type thing ala the plane windows. Zmej fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Modrasone posted:Doobage Piled high.
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Zmej posted:The Johnny Horne stuff, especially with the straight-jacket is really uncomfortable. It's really sad. His family is clearly unable to care for him properly.
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Zmej posted:I had a feeling the Dougie arc would have to address Jayn-E having sexual advances towards him, but I honestly thought it would end in obliviousness-rejection as punch line. Boy howdy, I was wrong. I'm kinda impressed how Lynch did some awkward and terrible depictions of the mentally disabled twice in one episode. The Johnny Horne stuff, especially with the straight-jacket is really uncomfortable. I don't really have a problem with Johnny. He's clearly a victim here, a severely autistic man trapped in a household full of people with bad moral compasses and zero clue or interest in how to actually help him live properly. Laura was his one lifeline, and since she died it's been Hornes all the way down. It limited my sympathy for grandma Horne, which I think was the point. Remember, these are all awful, awful people. Even if Ben is getting soft in his winter years, he did still nearly gently caress his own daughter.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:It limited my sympathy for grandma Horne, which I think was the point. Remember, these are all awful, awful people. Even if Ben is getting soft in his winter years, he did still nearly gently caress his own daughter. It really made me feel less bad for her when she was a super piece of poo poo to Ben on the phone.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Even if Ben is getting soft in his winter years, he did still nearly gently caress his own daughter. He didn't know that was Audrey. Ben did conspire to murder Catherine, though. And More fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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And More posted:Ben did conspire to murder Catherine, though. I do not blame him for this one bit
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i just rewatched the Mr. Jackpots bit and the little smile Dougie Coop manages as the hobo lady is thanking him over and over for pointing her to the next win was wonderful it must have killed a guy so committed to helping others to be taken off the board as he's been for 25 years while some greasy-haired fucker ran around in his skin
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CJacobs posted:I do not blame him for this one bit That's fair, I suppose. Escobarbarian posted:Just recorded the podcast and we were debating whether or not that weird sheen on the hotel room door when Tammy approaches was something deliberate or another weird reflection type thing ala the plane windows. Watched it back in slow-mo and it's DEFINITELY on purpose. It's a kind of wobble. All these barely noticeable visual effects kind of remind me of the found footage youtube channels like Marbel Hornets. It's something that you'd only notice for sure if you could go back and watch it again. Something like that would never have happened in the old show. Seems like Lynch really wants us to comb through this show looking for weird glitches.
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Escobarbarian posted:It really made me feel less bad for her when she was a super piece of poo poo to Ben on the phone. I laughed when she got mad that he asked about Johnny first.
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It was a tiny part of the episode, but I really liked the song that Harry Dean Stanton got to sing for a little while. He sings in pretty much everything he's in, but hearing his age-withered voice again just really brought it home for me. It reminded me of being sung to by my grandparents, and it really struck a positive emotional cord. That cord was severed by the ensuing Richard Horne terror rampage. This may have been one of the weaker episode of the series so far, but it's low points are higher than pretty much anything on television right now.
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Someone mentioned a few pages back that Bad Coop owned the box, but I don't think that's proven. We see that's he's in the box and that someone wearing what looks like a lab coat is looking at him, but Bad Coop could have been pulled into the box through the same means that Cooper and the Experiment were. I wish I had a photo of it, but the "#003" on the photo is kind of stylized to look like "BOB". It jumped out to me and my friend when it was shown, so that's something to chew on. Those two young "lovers" who live at the Fat Trout Trailer Park are really giving off Leo and Shelly vibes and it makes me feel just as uncomfortable as it did in the original run. At least Leo worked, this guy's just a drugged out abuser and I pray someone feeds him a bullet. Richard Horne is really following in the footsteps of Bad Coop (yes, I'm in the camp that thinks Bad Coop raped Audrey and that Richard is his son) with his recent actions. In just this episode he murders a woman who knew too much (like Bad Coop did to the woman who joined him with Ray), uses a lacky to tie up loose ends, and breaks into a home to outfit himself (like Bad Coop did with the farm last episode). Those might be tenuous connections but he demonstrates the same absence of conscience while fulfilling his desires that Bad Coop does, but he lacks Bad Coop's established funds and connections. Bad Coop plays the world stage, and Richie's stuck pottering around Twin Peaks. When he's robbing his grandmother, he says that he's doing so to go away, but since he just made a deal with the drug wizard I don't think he can go very far. I'm curious to see what his plan is. Jerry Horne, on the other hand, is part of the Twin Peaks trifecta of good-natured weirdness. Him, Nadine, and Dr. I like what's going on in Vegas and how it's almost a separate show at this point. The showgirls working in the brothers' house, wearing the same clothing, acting almost as if they can barely perceive the brothers, it's all so curious. I feel like they're Andy's nieces or something. One issue I have is something I've been guilty of, but it's the idea that Dougie is a real character who is still in the show. Dougie is gone, dead, replaced by Cooper. He answers to Dougie, he sleeps with Dougie's wife, but he is Cooper through and through. His mental block makes it easy to think of him as a different person, but there's no point in hoping that Cooper comes back; he's already here, he just needs to complete himself. Knowing that Cooper is taking in stimuli and processing it in his own way, I'd like him to come back to his senses with a full knowledge of everything that's happened to him since his return. He just slips on his shoes and informs the casino bros that he's FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper, tells Janey-E that she's a wonderful woman but not his wife, and gives Bushnell an enthusiastic thumbs up before leaving Vegas with Cole and Albert.
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Escobarbarian posted:I thought Evil Coop was pictured outside the box, not in it. Yeah, he's not in the box in that photo, he's in front of it along with a bald man in a white coat.
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I don't think Cooper is supposed to be totally unaware of anything anyway, he's more like someone who's had a brain hemorrhage, most of his mind is wiped but stuff deep down still functions, like his defense reflex. He just can't articulate anything or move properly.
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remusclaw posted:Yeah, he's not in the box in that photo, he's in front of it along with a bald man in a white coat. Looks like you're right. I thought he was inside but I guess he's the mysterious benefactor. 
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If the Vegas brothers really wanted to get the drop on Dougie they should just send Josie.
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Escobarbarian posted:Just recorded the podcast and we were debating whether or not that weird sheen on the hotel room door when Tammy approaches was something deliberate or another weird reflection type thing ala the plane windows. Watched it back in slow-mo and it's DEFINITELY on purpose. It's a kind of wobble. This (Peaked) and Diane are two of the better twin peaks podcasts I think. I don't love the Entertainment Weekly. drat Fine Podcast is alright.
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Berke Negri posted:Josie. Wood
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zelah posted:This (Peaked) and Diane are two of the better twin peaks podcasts I think. I don't love the Entertainment Weekly. drat Fine Podcast is alright. While I don't usually respond to these posts because I don't want to seem like I'm making the thread all about myself, I'd really like to say thanks to you and everyone else who has said positive things about Peaked in the past. I've never hosted anything before and I absolutely love doing it, so the reactions mean a lot 
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I can't wait for Cooper to never come back and we get Dougie the entire season because gently caress you joyless cunts can't you just let a man gormlessly wander through life
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Phi230 posted:I can't wait for Cooper to never come back and we get Dougie the entire season because gently caress you joyless cunts that would be fine if I didn't have to read this same goddam post every day
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They haven't said anything about a 4th season, have they? Has there been any indication of how this show is being received? I don't know anyone else personally who is watching.
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zelah posted:They haven't said anything about a 4th season, have they? Has there been any indication of how this show is being received? I don't know anyone else personally who is watching.
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Phi230 posted:I can't wait for Cooper to never come back and we get Dougie the entire season because gently caress you joyless cunts If I wanted to watch a man blundering through life without living up to his full potential I'd look in a mirror.
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Escobarbarian posted:While I don't usually respond to these posts because I don't want to seem like I'm making the thread all about myself, I'd really like to say thanks to you and everyone else who has said positive things about Peaked in the past. I've never hosted anything before and I absolutely love doing it, so the reactions mean a lot EDIT: Meant to edit this into the post above, whoops.
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I wasn't under the impression that a 4th season was even an option. I think this is a one-time thing.
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zelah posted:They haven't said anything about a 4th season, have they? Has there been any indication of how this show is being received? I don't know anyone else personally who is watching. I"d be extremely surprised if they announced a 4th season. I'm sure Showtime could be convinced, as t's been yrev very good for their streaming numbers, but somehow I just don't think Lynch would come back for it.
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Breadallelogram posted:I wasn't under the impression that a 4th season was even an option. I think this is a one-time thing. Frost said that "the proof will be in the pudding", but that was more than two years ago. Who even knows by this point. I believe this was even before Lynch briefly backed out of it because he was unhappy with the budget. Personally, every time a new episode airs, I'm pleasantly surprised that we're getting more Twin Peaks. As long as they don't compromise the current season for cheap sequel bait, I'll gladly watch more. And More fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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