NBA Offseason G/V: Let Me Hear You Post It

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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney	67	22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball	40	13.38%
Where will the Pauls go	54	18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ??	41	13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking	97	32.44%
Total:	210 votes

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WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Kings social media best social media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Fx_x4m6No

# ? Jul 18, 2017 03:31

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 09:56

Athanatos: Jun 7, 2006; Est. 2000

Mark Cuban googles if he can own 2 NBA teams in Texas and trade between them.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 04:34

chunkles: Aug 14, 2005; i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

Detects the Culture Fit (TM) of stadium entrants using ~~skin color~~ a holistic analysis of the individual

# ? Jul 18, 2017 04:37

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Athanatos posted:

Mark Cuban googles if he can own 2 NBA teams in Texas and trade between them.

Who would you send to Houston from Dallas

# ? Jul 18, 2017 04:44

chunkles: Aug 14, 2005; i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

zoux posted:

Who would you send to Houston from Dallas

Yogi Feral is the missing piece to put them over the Warriors IMO

# ? Jul 18, 2017 04:48

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

WhyteRyce posted:

Kings social media best social media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Fx_x4m6No

Agreed. Pelicans social media does nothing good except post the gangster Pelican video after every win.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 04:51

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Noctone posted:

lol Rick showing his coastal bias with an unintentional diss

lmao, you're 100% right here.

dokmo posted:

This is, I believe, the wrong approach. Instead of asking which is the best stat, ask what do you want to know. The stats you mention are attempts to measure total contributions by a player, which may be a flawed premise due to the situational aspects in which a player can contribute (eg Trevor Ariza and Danny Green became much more valuable offensive players when they stopped handling the ball and became shooting specialists, despite contributing less). As far as these overall contribution stats go, regressed plus minus (there are different flavors, I guess espn's Real Plus Minus is the most accessible) is probably the "best" in that it actually measures directly the contributions of these players' effects on the scoreboard, even though there is a lot of uncertainty in the metric due to technical statistical reasons. An attempt to reduce this uncertainty, best seen in small sample sizes (say, contributions over some number of games rather than over multiple seasons) is a linear plus minus regressed on box score stats, of which basketball-reference's Box Plus/Minus is probably the most accessible version. There are others, some of which you mention, but they all tend to tell the same story: the players you think are the best usually rank very highly in all of these, and if they don't, there's probably something wrong with the stat.

But for most people, these stats aren't very interesting, since we already know who the best players are, and don't really need a stat to tell us. The better questions focus on more specific topics: who is the best rebounder? who is the best pick and roll creator? who is the best one -on-one defender? who is the best shooter? There are stats that answer some of these questions very well, and they do it more directly so you can have a more confidence in the numbers. Feel free to ask for any topic, is there a stat for this? There usually is.

Or "most likely to end up in th e hall of fame" which is FGA.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 04:58

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Rick the Lakers just won the Summer League and Lonzo was SL MVP, are you on board? Is the dynasty back

Could Lonzo be...the real deal

# ? Jul 18, 2017 05:05

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

Dejan Bimble posted:

Maybe he wants to avoid inheritance catfights between his wife and kids by making that team of men liquid

It's probably the best time to sell. No other team is on the market, your team is good and in a big market, and maybe we've hit the peak of media deals.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 05:10

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

zoux posted:

Who would you send to Houston from Dallas

This would be the best you could do without moving Dennis Smith and Dirk a few months later.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8xa3h9g

# ? Jul 18, 2017 05:22

Nick Rivers: Nov 23, 2004

zoux posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/886979335109787648

A roundabout way of announcing Garbage Pail Kids are back

# ? Jul 18, 2017 05:59

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

zoux posted:

Rick the Lakers just won the Summer League and Lonzo was SL MVP, are you on board? Is the dynasty back

Could Lonzo be...the real deal

The Lakers won the summer league because they basically put together a D-League all star team alongside like 3 of their NBA roster players and even then they didn't actually start winning until the draftees other than Kuzman started playing less. This is not a great sign since the guys not playing are the ones who are on the team for the most part, but it's also not necessarily a bad sign either since it's not unusual for one and dones to put together bad performances here.

Lonzo was mostly bad and the league MVP is decided by the very tiny number of reporters who did not fly home. DSJ, Fultz, Tatum, Forbes, all played legitimately well and much more consistently and demonstrated a realistic way to contribute to their NBA teams. The Lakers are not going to be able to say "you know what, let's just not run the pick and roll tonight and feed Lonzo and also hope a random 19 year old just decides to let him slowly dribble to the basket over and over again," at least not unless they plan to win single digit games this year.

This was going to be a development season no matter what for the team, but they now have one less thing to develop and need Lonzo to be a fast success desperately now, instead of being patient with him. This is not a fun spot to be in.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 09:33

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

Im a Kuzma should have been the MVP truther

# ? Jul 18, 2017 13:06

humpthewind: Jan 8, 2007; Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.

straight up brolic posted:

Im a Kuzma should have been the MVP truther

There is no way it translates but his shooting touch looked magnificent.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 14:01

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Rick posted:

The Lakers won the summer league because they basically put together a D-League all star team alongside like 3 of their NBA roster players and even then they didn't actually start winning until the draftees other than Kuzman started playing less. This is not a great sign since the guys not playing are the ones who are on the team for the most part, but it's also not necessarily a bad sign either since it's not unusual for one and dones to put together bad performances here.

Lonzo was mostly bad and the league MVP is decided by the very tiny number of reporters who did not fly home. DSJ, Fultz, Tatum, Forbes, all played legitimately well and much more consistently and demonstrated a realistic way to contribute to their NBA teams. The Lakers are not going to be able to say "you know what, let's just not run the pick and roll tonight and feed Lonzo and also hope a random 19 year old just decides to let him slowly dribble to the basket over and over again," at least not unless they plan to win single digit games this year.

This was going to be a development season no matter what for the team, but they now have one less thing to develop and need Lonzo to be a fast success desperately now, instead of being patient with him. This is not a fun spot to be in.

Well, congrats on keeping a clear head.

Apparently Woj said on Sportscenter that Melo does not want to play for the Knicks anymore and wants to go to Houston. How does the team being up for sale affect a Melo deal?

# ? Jul 18, 2017 14:20

RCarr: Dec 24, 2007

zoux posted:

Apparently Woj said on Sportscenter that Melo does not want to play for the Knicks anymore and wants to go to Houston. How does the team being up for sale affect a Melo deal?

Didn't you read that dude's post earlier? Melo WANTS to play for the Knicks.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 14:22

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

zoux posted:

Well, congrats on keeping a clear head.

Apparently Woj said on Sportscenter that Melo does not want to play for the Knicks anymore and wants to go to Houston. How does the team being up for sale affect a Melo deal?

Probably doesn't affect it. I think they were mostly trying to move unguaranteed deals + Ryan Anderson, and I don't think the value of the franchise is going to be affected by any of that. Melo will bring in some name-revenue but probably accelerate their tax clock. Either way, not enough to move the needle.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 14:29

Hashtag Banterzone: Dec 8, 2005; Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Seems like someone else would be interested in Melo.

I could see him waiving his no trade clause for Miami, Charlotte, Washington, Dallas or Detroit, but I don't think any of those teams can make a deal work.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 15:01

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

BigSexyWitGlasses posted:

I googled this and couldn't find anything about it, does KC have some independent basketball team or something? If that's the case no thanks. I just moved from a town with a NJCAA (that's junior college, folks) team and it was bad. We're never getting a team, are we?

You have UMKC! Go 'Roos!

# ? Jul 18, 2017 15:06

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Fournette is bigger than I remember, for some reason:

https://twitter.com/_fournette/status/887138930944090112

# ? Jul 18, 2017 15:14

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

This is blowing my mind
https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/887160534499569664

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:16

Hashtag Banterzone: Dec 8, 2005; Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Cool Buff Man posted:

This is blowing my mind
https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/887160534499569664

Holy poo poo, mine too. How are there 5 of him in the court at once?

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:29

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Seems like someone else would be interested in Melo.

I could see him waiving his no trade clause for Miami, Charlotte, Washington, Dallas or Detroit, but I don't think any of those teams can make a deal work.

No way in hell Melo would go to Charlotte but they could make it work pretty easily if NY was interested in Batum

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:32

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Kibner posted:

Fournette is bigger than I remember, for some reason:

https://twitter.com/_fournette/status/887138930944090112

He's a freak of nature and people in the draft thread said they wouldn't take him in the first round :rolleyes:

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:41

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

It'd be really cool if Anthony Davis was ever on a good team

https://twitter.com/MasonGinsberg/status/887334610899808256

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:42

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

morestuff posted:

It'd be really cool if Anthony Davis was ever on a good team

https://twitter.com/MasonGinsberg/status/887334610899808256

Lineups should be all PGs and Cs. This is good.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:45

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/887337712516202497

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:47

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Glad of it.

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:53

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

The Dunk Contest IS BACK
https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/887158429449572352

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:54

Ammanas: Jul 17, 2005; Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

morestuff posted:

It'd be really cool if Anthony Davis was ever on a good team

https://twitter.com/MasonGinsberg/status/887334610899808256

They'll be too big and too small at the same time

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:55

the mean lunch lady: Jun 24, 2009; went mad at sea
lots were drawn
Kroenke didn't survive
he was delicious

straight up brolic posted:

Im a Kuzma should have been the MVP truther

Same!

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:56

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

I'm sorry

# ? Jul 18, 2017 16:58

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

I want Barack Obama, Houston Rockets Owner so bad

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:01

E2M2: Mar 2, 2007; Ain't No Thang.

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/887341304803229696

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:03

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I want Barack Obama, Houston Rockets Owner so bad

He'd do a great job on selling fans of a grand vision and instead he'd just sell his players out and get the maximum return for himself

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:07

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Wording is a little confusing but I'm for it

https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/887343005333688321

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:11

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

morestuff posted:

Wording is a little confusing but I'm for it

https://twitter.com/NickDePaula/status/887343005333688321

Is this the death of Home whites?

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:11

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

E2M2 posted:

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/887341304803229696

This is good

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:13

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I want Barack Obama, Houston Rockets Owner so bad

Yeah it'd be very cool to be promised a team of Antetokounmpo, Griffin and Curry then wind up with Thanasis, Taylor and Seth, an explanation of why the other teams are at fault and a massive Goldman Sachs sponsorship deal

RCarr posted:

Didn't you read that dude's post earlier? Melo WANTS to play for the Knicks.

haha

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:13

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 09:56

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003; I got a taste for blown saves

Obama as team owner would turn this entire city into a giant hot take dog whistle machine and hell I'm for it

# ? Jul 18, 2017 17:15

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