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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

logikv9 posted:

not sure 2020

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Oh yeah, then why aren't they president, you imbecile, you fuckinf morong

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING


Socialists electing a man of the cloth? :thunk:

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Can u imagine how much better 2018-2020 would be looking if the Dems were as cool as the DSA

Lol abuela still more unpopular than the Pussy Grabber :allears:

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Can u imagine how much better 2018-2020 would be looking if the Dems were as cool as the DSA

Lol abuela still more unpopular than the Pussy Grabber :allears:

I mean there's some cool rear end Dems: Grijalva, Waters, Lee, Ellison. Problem is the leadership is running on Windows 98.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Frijolero posted:

I mean there's some cool rear end Dems: Grijalva, Waters, Lee, Ellison. Problem is the leadership is running on Windows 98.

npelosi65@netscape.net has logged on

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Feldegast42 posted:

Socialists electing a man of the cloth? :thunk:

it is insanely good that there are people able to stand up and testify running with the left imo

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/BLACKMESSlAH/status/886779354688212992

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Agnosticnixie posted:

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/887292895610290176

Humanitarian centrism. I know foreign policy is like the thing most americans care about the least but any democratic primary that doesn't address the grip the Washington consensus has is going to lead to some incredibly hosed up poo poo even if Hillary "Nuke Tehran" Clinton isn't the one running, and want it or not, US foreign policy has knock on effects on some of the terrible poo poo that happens domestically. Imperial centers have a deep rot basically. Basically primary Schumer even if he bends the knee.

opposing jewish settlements in the west bank is now anti-semitism

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Agean90 posted:

it is insanely good that there are people able to stand up and testify running with the left imo

Nah I'm tickled, just kind of surprised. I think leftist religious leaders need to be more outspoken (like that one lady laying it on McConnell outside his office a couple days back).

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Darkman Fanpage posted:

opposing jewish settlements in the west bank is now anti-semitism

Supporting Bernie Sanders is racesexim

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Really the left needs to find common ground with churches again if it really wants to gain popular support in america and with working class people

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Dreylad posted:

Really the left needs to find common ground with churches again if it really wants to gain popular support in america and with working class people

socialism is the opiate of the masses

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Then he got mad when people wouldn't let him keep his DSA tags

I dunno I spent $10 and got $40 of money for lowtax that could have gone to the DSA. In the greater scheme if things that makes me more effective at social activism than most DSA members.

Props to Al! for giving me the tag back for free

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
lol you didn't even join, you threw $10 at them just so you could troll

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol you didn't even join, you threw $10 at them just so you could troll

Worth

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

You suck zegermans

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

And swallow

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Dreylad posted:

Really the left needs to find common ground with churches again if it really wants to gain popular support in america and with working class people

we got common ground. jesus p much preached socialism

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
shut the gently caress up, zwegermans

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


zegermans, you should buy a DSA onesie for your baby. that'll show them!

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

shut the gently caress up, zwegermans

why is concerned citizen being so mean to me :confused:

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Condiv posted:

zegermans, you should buy a DSA onesie for your baby. that'll show them!

turns out onesies are a poor long term investment on account of babies grow like fungus early on

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

also that onesie was Thoguh's idea

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

It seems to me like all these opinion polls show that trump has a base of 39-40% of people locked in permanently and the best way to defeat him would be to fire up the base and get independents and non-voters on board.

So I'm sure the democrats will continue to try and peel off the mythical "moderate" republicans in 2018 and 2020.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Nanomashoes posted:

It seems to me like all these opinion polls show that trump has a base of 39-40% of people locked in permanently and the best way to defeat him would be to fire up the base and get independents and non-voters on board.

So I'm sure the democrats will continue to try and peel off the mythical "moderate" republicans in 2018 and 2020.

Ideally you fire up your base while also appealing to the dumbest dregs of society that are independent voters. Dems have forgotten entirely about the first part and just took them for granted and now no one bothers to vote for them anymore.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

zegermans posted:

also that onesie was Thoguh's idea

Typical of a shillbot to blame a Bernard brother for their poor decision making 🙄

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
the democrats are themselves the moderate republicans

they're not going to turn left any more than the GOP will

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


zegermans posted:

turns out onesies are a poor long term investment on account of babies grow like fungus early on

:thunk:

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

docbeard posted:

No establishment Democrat (maybe Biden, MAYBE, but probably not) would have beaten Trump.

Bernie would have had a shot but it would have been a nailbiter.

You're wrong, any reasonably popular Dem would have stomped him into he ground.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

keep telling yourself that luv

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Vox Nihili posted:

You're wrong, any reasonably popular Dem would have stomped him into he ground.

i really don't understand how watching Hillary throw the election against the worst candidate in history has led people to the conclusion that actually, trump wasn't easy to beat

that trump did as well as romney is absolutely shocking... but romney lost

Subjunctivitis
Oct 12, 2007
Causation or Correlation?

Dreylad posted:

Really the left needs to find common ground with churches again if it really wants to gain popular support in america and with working class people

This church is cool and good: http://www.judson.org/

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005


really??

another white man????

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

NewForumSoftware posted:

i really don't understand how watching Hillary throw the election against the worst candidate in history has led people to the conclusion that actually, trump wasn't easy to beat

that trump did as well as romney is absolutely shocking... but romney lost

Trump beat Romney's vote totals by 2 million. Clinton lagged behind Obama by only 100k. This is like completely wrong

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Biden, Jim Webb, and Buttigeig would all have easily beaten Trump.

Bernie would win every electoral vote except the free one in nebraska

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

zegermans posted:

Trump beat Romney's vote totals by 2 million. Clinton lagged behind Obama by only 100k. This is like completely wrong

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

zegermans posted:

Ideally you fire up your base while also appealing to the dumbest dregs of society that are independent voters. Dems have forgotten entirely about the first part and just took them for granted and now no one bothers to vote for them anymore.

"independent" voters are typically informed partisans who for some reason or other don't want to identify R or D.
The dumbest dregs of society you're actually looking for are "undecided" voters who can't be bothered to spend 20 minutes a year to go vote unless there's a candidate they saw on the tv and are really excited about, like Trump or 2008 Obama.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


the graphic is actually outdated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016

current vote total is 66mil for HRC to 63mil for Trump

HRC just barely lost to 2012 Obama but, tbf, was solidly trounced by 2008 Obama

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
hillary: campaigns with lena dunham, does not mention policy in any of her ads (let alone how they will help people), runs a gigantic weird charity that accepts money from foreign governments with which she dealt as secretary of state, generally sucks poo poo

hillaryman: no one could have improved on this

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