EnergizerFellow posted:You weren't kidding. Here's this nice juicy little gem from the author of Seth Stephens-Davidowitz: The relevant part of all of that is that, according to the author, the trends say that there was *not* a spike in white nationalism (ie membership in places like Storm front and racist searches) right before or after Trump's election. Rather, it happened immediate after Obama's election and stayed relatively consistent through until Trump was elected, where there was a comparitively small jump. This implies that the spike in visible white nationalism is not due to a sudden radicalization of whites but instead, as we suspected, a shift of people being more comfortable voicing opinions that they already had for a long time. Never take science at face value, especially not pop science, but it's really interesting how those kinds of things can emerge. E. Apparently that article is the whole book? Nice CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y?
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Flip Yr Wig posted:But hey, we may yet get the house. HA!
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? Nobody knows what it means because it's a made up thing.
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? Basically.
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? Same as it is with Credit Cards... you know all those options of getting a card from a company in Idaho or the other company in Idaho.
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 22:05 |
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? Selling insurance across state lines is just a talking point for morons. There is no federal law preventing it from happening now. Just state regulation.
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? Basically, but every company just instantly relocates to wherever has the least stringent regulations (probably Delaware or something) and all insurance become poo poo.
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? It means literally nothing, benefit packages are built with local or national network providers in mind depending on the group. It makes no sense for an insurer operating in eastern Missouri to sell their benefits to someone in Chicago with its own tangle of hospital chains, pharmacies, and other providers who may or may not play ball with eastern Missouri rates. All it would do is add expense.
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Javes posted:Selling insurance across state lines is such a dumb thing that's held up as the one weird trick solution that will fix everything by conservatives. Not to mention it requires 60 votes, right? "No really, its easy. Just buy it from this company that you can't even find listed in the phone books of this area 3000 miles away from you on the other-side of the country. You'll love the junk bond, especially because buying it means you'll never have access to any other deal ever again!'
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? I was under the impression that it basically lets Insurers choose a state whose laws they'd like to be regulated by, opening everyone up to declare that they're headquartered in Texas or some similarly deregulated shithole and thereby don't need to offer anything to anyone in the country but cheap worthless plans or good plans that cost a king's ransom.
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I believe that people who are for selling insurance across state lines are convinced that insurance companies will either become more competitive, or consolidate and become more competitive.
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People get upset when other states have cheaper health insurance. The problem is the vast majority of that difference in cost is that the hospitals and doctors in those states are cheaper, and you can't price the insurance of someone in one state based on the providers in the other state. "Selling across state lines" has absolutely no impact on this because it's not something you can change. Also, there is a TON of competition for health insurance. Just because there are counties with 1 health insurer on the individual marketplace doesn't mean that insurer isn't competing with other major insurers for group and medicare/medicaid business.
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WHOOPS posted:I'm curious if this would even work. Like, part of the reason the GOP could whip consistent support around "repeal Obamacare" was because a large part of their voter base didn't connect it to their own health insurance. That's out of the bag now - I'd like to think a plan to primary a Senator on the basis of repealing Obamacare is only going to work with the 17% that supported it. it feels a lot more like a few rich assholes trying to rule the country via intimidation and exploiting citizens united. problem is gerrymandering still doesn't alleviate you from the people that still need to loving vote for your lovely candidate to win. holy gently caress I hope they empty their coffers and only have horrible losses to show for it
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WHOOPS posted:I'm curious if this would even work. Like, part of the reason the GOP could whip consistent support around "repeal Obamacare" was because a large part of their voter base didn't connect it to their own health insurance. That's out of the bag now - I'd like to think a plan to primary a Senator on the basis of repealing Obamacare is only going to work with the 17% that supported it. Primary voters tend to be more extreme in their ideology than general election voters, so appealing to that 17% might just be a winning strategy for a primary.
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Tempest_56 posted:Top level? It's looting. Who cares if the entire system implodes in ten years? They'll be dead/retired in Aruba/pulling six figures from a think-tank to do nothing but sit around. Most of the career politicians who care about things like agendas and plans were eaten alive in 2010-2012. All this because someone once said "$30,000 toilet seat"
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Your kid has cancer and you can't afford treatment.
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Smol posted:What does selling insurance across state lines even mean? That you can buy insurance regulated by state X standards even though you live in Y? It's a talking point designed to click with free market morons. It relies on the listener not knowing enough about how healthcare works. We have several states that already allow it. Nobody does it, for the reasons other posters gave.
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Ah but have you all considered... tort reform?
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Mister Adequate posted:Ah but have you all considered... tort reform? You know it's funny, they don't really talk about tort reform anymore... do they.... https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/887420896801107968
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Crow Jane posted:A million years ago I was briefly gently caress buddies with a dude that is now on the city council. He seems like he turned out pretty okay, but it's pretty jarring seeing him look all proper Ryan Dorsey or Zeke Cohen? Also I went to Ekiben last night, because you mentioned it and I hadn't had it in a week or so. As for goon politics relations: I've met and my dads family knows Steney Hoyer pretty well. My GF used to work on the hill and knows most of the republican house members. She also voted for McMullian because he used to buy her breakfast. Edit: I really don't care to know I just want to bag on zeke cohen for being a piece of poo poo. Not that he's done anything wrong per se. But he hilariously inflated his background in his campaign stuff and it really rubbed me the wrong way. freeasinbeer fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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mcmagic posted:You know it's funny, they don't really talk about tort reform anymore... do they.... So this is a "please pay my lawyers" rally right
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Azhais posted:So Trump's invincible? Indestructible...
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Punkbob posted:Ryan Dorsey or Zeke Cohen? Please say it was mcmuffins
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My dad was friends with Joe Lieberman. He's also an utter piece of poo poo. Actually they both are.
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mcmagic posted:You know it's funny, they don't really talk about tort reform anymore... do they.... I long for the day Trump does a rally and the only people who show up are protesters.
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Covok posted:I long for the day Trump does a rally and the only people who show up are protesters. That day won't come.
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Covok posted:I long for the day Trump does a rally and the only people who show up are protesters. I don't want the protesters to have signs or anything. Just look like average Trump supporters sitting stone faced and silent while he talks. Then after 10 minutes or so they quietly get up and leave.
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Throwing Turtles posted:I don't want the protesters to have signs or anything. Just look like average Trump supporters sitting stone faced and silent while he talks. Then after 10 minutes or so they quietly get up and leave.
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mcmagic posted:My dad was friends with Joe Lieberman. Apples, trees, etc
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Throwing Turtles posted:I don't want the protesters to have signs or anything. Just look like average Trump supporters sitting stone faced and silent while he talks. Then after 10 minutes or so they quietly get up and leave. God drat. This could be a category on pornhub.
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My dad was the national campaign director for Perot in 92. I got go to to one of Mr. Perot's birthday parties.
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https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status/887423320345497600 https://twitter.com/thehill/status/887420733906989056
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mcmagic posted:You know it's funny, they don't really talk about tort reform anymore... do they.... Good thing he's doing it next week, you wouldn't want to visit Youngstown during 'made in America' week. It's a town that was wrecked even worse than Detroit when the steel and rubber industry left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngstown,_Ohio#Economy They lost 40k jobs in one day in the 70's--yikes.
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marshmonkey posted:https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status/887423320345497600 Oh cool. Secret meetings between heads of state. That sounds great.
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"Bremmer said in an interview with Bloomberg's Charlie Rose that the rapport that Trump established with Putin during the summit is "clearly his best personal relationship" with a G-20 leader."
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Interesting article from the New Yorker: How Trump Is Transforming Rural America. It seems like a lot of the research was done before July but I don't imagine people's opinions have changed htat much since then. quote:We were at a coffee shop, and Patterson wore his goth look: silver jewelry, painted nails. “I’ve never been this emotionally invested in a political leader in my life,” he said. “The more they hate him, the more I want him to succeed. Because what they hate about him is what they hate about me.” what
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marshmonkey posted:https://twitter.com/Zac_Petkanas/status/887423320345497600 Most transparent president ever!!
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empty whippet box posted:Apples, trees, etc lovely.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Rush was just Freaking Out, good day to hatelisten Details? Link? Can you post it in the RWM thread?
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