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Vincent Valentine
Feb 28, 2006

Murdertime

I use four and I can't imagine going any lower. Before coding I thought more than two was ridiculous overkill. Funny how that works.

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Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

I went 1-20" => 2-20" => 2-20" / 1-24" => 2-24" / 1-20" => 2-24" / 1-27".

Each time there was no way more screen space was going to be useful.

I don't know how people code on laptop screens.

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Vincent Valentine posted:

I use four and I can't imagine going any lower. Before coding I thought more than two was ridiculous overkill. Funny how that works.

I have 5 monitors at work, but one of them is a barco coronis fusion, so it's probably more like having 6 normal monitors. It's definitely 5 figures worth of monitors. I've never seen anyone else with more.

ddiddles
Oct 21, 2008

Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I

ddiddles posted:

Man I hope so, W3 is the fuckin worst.

Thanks for the answers, I shot them another email asking if reference is allowed.

Got an answer, no reference allowed but your encouraged to ask the dev team your interviewing with for help.

My first test of this type on Tuesday, gonna spend the weekend cramming on the foundations.

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
<this tag left blank>
Muldoon

Thermopyle posted:

I don't know how people code on laptop screens.

Tabbed terminal, or 'screen' if I'm really desperate. Front end work is nearly impossible though.

But yeah multiple monitors is the best.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Thermopyle posted:

I went 1-20" => 2-20" => 2-20" / 1-24" => 2-24" / 1-20" => 2-24" / 1-27".

Each time there was no way more screen space was going to be useful.

I don't know how people code on laptop screens.

Command-Tab :downs:

Mniot
May 22, 2003
Not the one you know

Vincent Valentine posted:

I use four and I can't imagine going any lower. Before coding I thought more than two was ridiculous overkill. Funny how that works.

Can you describe what you do with them?

I'm reasonably happy coding on just a laptop screen. The main problem is that it's not very wide. I feel like I can use two monitors effectively: the biggest thing I can get for my editor (the important thing is to be able to split the window as many times as possible without wrapping everything to hell), and an extra monitor for everything else (email, chat, browser, terminal). But sometimes two feels like too much. If I face directly at my code (which I do) then I have to turn a bit to look at the other monitor so I just don't bother looking at it.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Talk about first world problems.

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
i'm late to resumechat this time but here is how i do things as a hiring manager. your resume is supposed to be you putting your best foot forward. i need to see something that tells me i should hire you, or at least bring you in for an interview. that could be your experience, education, skills, portfolio, anything. you can put whatever makes the most sense for you at this stage of your career. just know that whatever you put, i am going to read it and judge you based on it. so don't go padding out your github with old schoolwork and unmodified forks of open source projects that you don't contribute to, just because you think you need a github. HR might be fooled but i'll see right through that poo poo in about 10 seconds and bin your resume. if you have a good portfolio of personal work then by all means include it, but don't put something on your resume unless it makes sense for you!

Vincent Valentine
Feb 28, 2006

Murdertime

Mniot posted:

Can you describe what you do with them?

I'm reasonably happy coding on just a laptop screen. The main problem is that it's not very wide. I feel like I can use two monitors effectively: the biggest thing I can get for my editor (the important thing is to be able to split the window as many times as possible without wrapping everything to hell), and an extra monitor for everything else (email, chat, browser, terminal). But sometimes two feels like too much. If I face directly at my code (which I do) then I have to turn a bit to look at the other monitor so I just don't bother looking at it.

Laptop screen: code editor
Monitor 1: the software I'm working on, so the website or app.
Monitor 2: terminal, dev tools, etc.
Monitor 3: email, music, Skype, slack, etc.

teen phone cutie
Jun 18, 2012

last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself

ddiddles posted:

Got an answer, no reference allowed but your encouraged to ask the dev team your interviewing with for help.

My first test of this type on Tuesday, gonna spend the weekend cramming on the foundations.

That's absurd that you can't look things up.

I am almost constantly looking things up

Skandranon posted:

Why can't you get 3 monitors at home? I don't think I could live with less.

I could but :retrogames:

teen phone cutie
Jun 18, 2012

last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself
I discovered https://codefights.com

and I haven't gotten much work done at all today.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Grump posted:

I discovered https://codefights.com

and I haven't gotten much work done at all today.

Code Fights if fun, if you do well enough on some of the bots the CEO emails you asking if you're interested in talking to the companies that sponsor the bots (at least this was the case in late 2016). No clue what happens from there if you do it but it seemed like it could be a neat way to bypass the stacks of resumes these places get.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

I think i'm having bad luck at interviews!

I've done about a solid dozen in the Dallas/DFW area, cradle to grave. Most of them have been 'you were are #1 choice! but...' kind of deals. Also! I'm going to lose my apartment within the month, fun times!

I think I have a lot more respect for people who actually land these kind of jobs, interviewers love to play twenty questions with their candidates :comeback:

If anyone has some openings for jr Front End Development positions, drop me a line ya?

huhu
Feb 24, 2006

Parrotine posted:

I think i'm having bad luck at interviews!

I've done about a solid dozen in the Dallas/DFW area, cradle to grave. Most of them have been 'you were are #1 choice! but...' kind of deals. Also! I'm going to lose my apartment within the month, fun times!

I think I have a lot more respect for people who actually land these kind of jobs, interviewers love to play twenty questions with their candidates :comeback:

If anyone has some openings for jr Front End Development positions, drop me a line ya?

What are the dozen but ...'s? Have you worked on each of them for later interviews? If not - why not? If you don't know what the but's were, did you ask? If not - why not? I was in your exact same shoes. I was told I wasn't enthusiastic enough, messed up on the soft questions, was missing key skills (MySQL, or REST API or some other random interview question), or something similar. After each interview I'd ask what I did wrong and focus on them for the next one.

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

huhu posted:

What are the dozen but ...'s? Have you worked on each of them for later interviews? If not - why not? If you don't know what the but's were, did you ask? If not - why not? I was in your exact same shoes. I was told I wasn't enthusiastic enough, messed up on the soft questions, was missing key skills (MySQL, or REST API or some other random interview question), or something similar. After each interview I'd ask what I did wrong and focus on them for the next one.

Very rarely do you ever get any feedback from interviews. Which leads to frustrating situations like the one quoted.

And if you do it may not be entirely useful.

huhu
Feb 24, 2006

Gildiss posted:

Very rarely do you ever get any feedback from interviews. Which leads to frustrating situations like the one quoted.

And if you do it may not be entirely useful.

Have you tried asking? I've received loads of helpful information. Not always, but enough to help me identify key areas that I needed to present myself better in interviews.

There's also paying attention to the questions you get asked and how you respond to them. If you get asked if you've ever used REST API and you say no, probably at least worth checking out what it is.


For example

quote:

Hi Interviewer,

While that is unfortunate to hear, I completely understand. Thanks for your feedback. I have one additional question - would you be able to provide some input on what I should focus on learning? I imagine REST, unit testing, and databases would be the takeaway from our interview. Anything else?

Have a great weekend and best of luck with your search.

Cheers,
Huhu

quote:

Hi huhu,

I believe you can write code - I doubt you could accomplish what you've accomplished without it. You're also great with the interpersonal stuff and life experience - you'd add a lot to a team in that regard. My impression is that you are strongest in front-end tech, but that landscape *does* change quickly...

I think overall I think you would benefit most from diving into a web development bootcamp, such as Launch Academy or HackReactor. You have knowledge of some areas here and there, but you lack the big-picture sorts of skills that tie everything together. And also, you lack team experience. What these bootcamps often do to prepare young devs is teach them not only to code front-to-back, but also how to work on a dev team with modern techniques and practices that employers use. You'll be able to pair-program, manage a work backlog, learn TDD and test automation, learn how to deploy your own code, etc. In some ways, these bootcamps prepare devs for the real world even better than getting a CS degree. I think you've certainly got the chops to succeed in this. And once you do, you will have a much better chance in getting your foot in the door. And after that, the sky's the limit.

Hope this helps!

huhu fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 18, 2017

ddiddles
Oct 21, 2008

Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I

ddiddles posted:

Got an answer, no reference allowed but your encouraged to ask the dev team your interviewing with for help.

My first test of this type on Tuesday, gonna spend the weekend cramming on the foundations.

Just had this test, went fine. The devs I was interviewing with were helpful with hints and remembering method names.

Another company I'm interviewing for emailed me saying they want to move forward. In addition to creating a simple page that consumes some stuff from the GitHub search API (which will be easy), they also want me to come in for an onsite interview. This would be the fourth interview I've had with them, so it seems like they are interested.

I'm currently in Idaho, and the position is in Colorado. They know I'm in Idaho and I can get down to CO within a matter of days after a job offer.

I'm totally fin with spending the money on a plane ticket, I'm really motivated to get a dev job, but I'm pretty poor after a year of not working. This would be my first front end dev position (though they are happy with my previous WordPress experience), would it be tacky to see if they would pay for the plane ticket?

TheCog
Jul 30, 2012

I AM ZEPA AND I CLAIM THESE LANDS BY RIGHT OF CONQUEST

ddiddles posted:

Just had this test, went fine. The devs I was interviewing with were helpful with hints and remembering method names.

Another company I'm interviewing for emailed me saying they want to move forward. In addition to creating a simple page that consumes some stuff from the GitHub search API (which will be easy), they also want me to come in for an onsite interview. This would be the fourth interview I've had with them, so it seems like they are interested.

I'm currently in Idaho, and the position is in Colorado. They know I'm in Idaho and I can get down to CO within a matter of days after a job offer.

I'm totally fin with spending the money on a plane ticket, I'm really motivated to get a dev job, but I'm pretty poor after a year of not working. This would be my first front end dev position (though they are happy with my previous WordPress experience), would it be tacky to see if they would pay for the plane ticket?

Always ask. You get a lot of milage out of asking. Worst case is they say no, and you go down anyway. But I've never had an interview that required going relatively far where I wasn't offered some form of compensation for travel, be it in the form of a hotel, or a plane ticket or something.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
It wouldn't be tacky at all.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I'm not currently looking for a new job, but I wouldn't mind putting in 10-15 hours a week for some extra income. Are any of the dev freelancer sites worth using?

ddiddles
Oct 21, 2008

Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I

The Fool posted:

I'm not currently looking for a new job, but I wouldn't mind putting in 10-15 hours a week for some extra income. Are any of the dev freelancer sites worth using?

From what I've seen its a lot of people that want to build an eCommerce site for them for $50.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


ddiddles posted:

From what I've seen its a lot of people that want to build an eCommerce site for them for $50.

I'd turn on a squarespace site for $50.

ddiddles
Oct 21, 2008

Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I

The Fool posted:

I'd turn on a squarespace site for $50.

If only it were that easy, in addition to starting up a WordPress site, you also need to write from scratch some stupidly complex functionality they think they need. But it should be easy so $50 will cover it.

teen phone cutie
Jun 18, 2012

last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself
You're probably better off bartending a couple nights a week

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Grump posted:

You're probably better off bartending a couple nights a week

upwork.com posted:

I need help removing any malicious codes or malware from my wordpress site. Currently, when people visit my site, they get this message:

"Deceptive site ahead

Attackers on MY-URL.COM may trick you into doing something dangerous like installing software or revealing your personal information (for example, passwords, phone numbers, or credit cards)."

You're probably right.


edit: Another one is wanting to pay $15/hour for 7 hours of a work to build a craigslist killer.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jul 19, 2017

Mniot
May 22, 2003
Not the one you know

ddiddles posted:

I'm totally fin with spending the money on a plane ticket, I'm really motivated to get a dev job, but I'm pretty poor after a year of not working. This would be my first front end dev position (though they are happy with my previous WordPress experience), would it be tacky to see if they would pay for the plane ticket?

Personally, I would not work with a company that wanted me to foot the bill for an on-site interview. Companies that aren't willing to spew money should use phone, video chat, and homework to evaluate candidates. If they really want you on site but can't afford $1500 to fly you out and board you for a day, then how are they going to afford to pay you a salary?

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

huhu posted:

What are the dozen but ...'s? Have you worked on each of them for later interviews? If not - why not? If you don't know what the but's were, did you ask? If not - why not? I was in your exact same shoes. I was told I wasn't enthusiastic enough, messed up on the soft questions, was missing key skills (MySQL, or REST API or some other random interview question), or something similar. After each interview I'd ask what I did wrong and focus on them for the next one.

It always comes down to 'We want somebody with more experience', or somebody comes along at the last minute to swipe my job (they put me as their 'safety' pick most times). They also make you do a lot of assessments and online logic tests, the latter which have nothing to do with the actual job. I have a borderline case of Asbergers, so I have a bit of a learning disability that affects my test taking skills, so to answer just one question wrong out of their roulette is enough to get you kicked out. I have asked what I did wrong, but it's always a vague answer or they just stonewall your honest question.

I dunno, i'm getting pretty fed up with it. This is kind of my last resort because it should not be this difficult to land a position (6 months and counting), but here I am. Dallas is a real poo poo place to look for this kind of work it seems, and i'm considering switching careers because of it.

Props to you guys for cracking that barrier, i'm truly impressed.

White Light fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 19, 2017

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Could you switch cities instead of switching careers?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


taqueso posted:

Could you switch cities instead of switching careers?

This.

I'm not that great with the geography of smaller states, but Austin is supposed to have a pretty good market, I'd start looking for jobs there if I were you.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

The Fool posted:

This.

I'm not that great with the geography of smaller states, but Austin is supposed to have a pretty good market, I'd start looking for jobs there if I were you.

I will be switching cities when my lease is up and will have to move to Houston, which is a hell of a lot easier to land a job in than Dallas. I just don't particularly want to live there because Houston is kind of a boring city with humidity, but beggers can't be choosers.

Austin is a great place for that market, but from what i've researched, they mainly want mid-level to senior-level developers., so i'd have to get a few more years under my belt before making that jump. I've done interviews in that city before but they are really on top of their game in that field, i'm a bit outclassed.

Pixelboy
Sep 13, 2005

Now, I know what you're thinking...

ddiddles posted:

From what I've seen its a lot of people that want to build an eCommerce site for them for $50.

Facebook, but for dogs - budget $300.

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








I only just realized the position I'm applying for at Amazon is for an SDE II instead of an SDE I due to my experience (3-4 years is what they list & what I have). The level of difficulty so far hasn't been very hard (online assesment, initial phone interview, phone interview with screen sharing for coding), should I expect a ramp up for the onsite? I'm just brushing up on typical data structures, and solving problems from places like CodingFight/ProjectEuler (and probably not spending enough time on some canned behavorial answers). I'm dreading having to do 4 hour long interviews back to back ;_;

edit: so far it has been like, "find all permutations of string x," "write a stack," or "tell me what a hashmap is/what is the big 0 time for insertion of it."

Tweak fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jul 19, 2017

huhu
Feb 24, 2006

Parrotine posted:



Props to you guys for cracking that barrier, i'm truly impressed.

600 applications over 1.5 years.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Took me 2 years and so many applications I couldn't count them all. What worked for me in the end? The exact same thing I was doing the whole time :sigh:. Hopefully you'll find some luck soon :)

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
<this tag left blank>
Muldoon
You have to break the "two years experience required" barrier any way possible. I screwed up the beginning of my career, and ended up working for near minimum wage in a local web dev shop. It worked out fine, and my salary doubled with my second job.

teen phone cutie
Jun 18, 2012

last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself
Yeah i feel like i got super lucky. I just happened to apply to a company that pretty much only hires newbies.

I can't wait to leave though. Being a support dev for 8 months is draining as gently caress

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

lifg posted:

You have to break the "two years experience required" barrier any way possible. I screwed up the beginning of my career, and ended up working for near minimum wage in a local web dev shop. It worked out fine, and my salary doubled with my second job.

I feel like this is right on the money. I've got two years of contract work under my belt and about a year of full-time, but it doesn't matter cause it's not 2 years FT. Cracking that barrier is no joke, the struggle is real my friends :ohdear:

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

ddiddles posted:

From what I've seen its a lot of people that want to build an eCommerce site for them for $50.

Now I'm tempted to offer $200 for something reasonably complex in a language I know super well to see what kind of cobbled-together patchwork of copy-pasted StackOverflow code and open source libraries I get back.

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putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION
Not that anyone cares, but I ended up not liking the counteroffer from my current employer and went with the original company. I start on Monday, pretty chuffed with my decision.

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