NBA Offseason G/V: Let Me Hear You Post It

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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney	67	22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball	40	13.38%
Where will the Pauls go	54	18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ??	41	13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking	97	32.44%
Total:	210 votes

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Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

Bruno is a great example of just having the body and skills not being enough. He shows how loving dedicated to this silly ball game you have to be to just play NBA minutes. These guys loving care more than most of us care about anything other than maybe our families.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:30

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# ? May 16, 2024 11:27

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

Makes you think Hedo was one of the most naturally skilled players ever.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:35

chunkles: Aug 14, 2005; i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

quote:

Sources close to Ming told Eyewitness News that the former Rocket is interested in the team.

You know I wouldn't trust ABC 13 eyewitness news if they said it was raining outside but I want to believe this to the core of my soul

:pray:

oh and this guy

https://twitter.com/jonathan_feigen/status/887343869997744130

if he runs the team half as insane as his commericals are it'd at least be interesting

chunkles fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jul 19, 2017

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:04

Eratik: Jun 23, 2004; I like your style.

I'm hoping that Bruno's experience carrying the 905 to the g-league championship while give him the confidence to play occasional nba minutes without looking like a slow, terrible baby giraffe.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:13

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

im excited for Jeb! to announce that he is looking to make a bid and then meekly drop out two weeks later

chunkles posted:

You know I wouldn't trust ABC 13 eyewitness news if they said it was raining outside but I want to believe this to the core of my soul

some pretty great hometown reporting when they refer to him as "Ming"

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:15

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

(ex-)players buy all the teams, the NBA converts to worker ownership inshallah

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:17

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

Adam Silver would have private investigators plant heroin and child porno on every NBA player if there was even a 1% chance of that happenign

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:46

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Dejan Bimble posted:

Bruno is a great example of just having the body and skills not being enough. He shows how loving dedicated to this silly ball game you have to be to just play NBA minutes. These guys loving care more than most of us care about anything other than maybe our families.

his PER went from -7.7 to +14.6 this year :wth:

that's an incredible leap! (on ~40 total minutes played both years so it's too small a sample size to mean much) 2 years from 2 years could be true

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:50

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

even if Ex-players bought all the teams i doubt they wouldn't suddenly become pro labour. America is all about forgetting your comrades the second you move to management.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:51

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

-7 to +14 is .... infinity improvement I think

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:51

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

chunkles posted:

You know I wouldn't trust ABC 13 eyewitness news if they said it was raining outside but I want to believe this to the core of my soul

oh and this guy

https://twitter.com/jonathan_feigen/status/887343869997744130

if he runs the team half as insane as his commericals are it'd at least be interesting

I always forget that there's other regional psychopaths out there than Bob and his discount furniture chain

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:55

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

I hope he has 1.8 billion dollars.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:56

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

I think we should call Kevin Durant "skinny spaghetti"

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:57

chunkles: Aug 14, 2005; i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

EvanTH posted:

his PER went from -7.7 to +14.6 this year that's an incredible leap! (on ~40 total minutes played both years so it's too small a sample size to mean much) 2 years from 2 years could be true

hmm if it keeps increasing at this rate his PER will be 37 this year. drat, ujiri is good.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 01:58

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Doltos posted:

I always forget that there's other regional psychopaths out there than Bob and his discount furniture chain

Every region of this great nation seems to have their own powerful discount mattress/furniture khan, master of cheap commercials, commander of some huge warehouse store. Do you think they feud over the borders of their territories? I wonder what the margin is on that garbage?

800-588, 2300, vampires

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:00

Dr.Radical: Apr 3, 2011

Eltoasto posted:

Pacers:
Gold
White
Bad Shot Selection Blues
Some White Guy Who Washes Out Early Like Oh Let's Say Damon Bailey

Fixed that for you.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:04

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

chunkles posted:

hmm if it keeps increasing at this rate his PER will be 37 this year. drat, ujiri is good.

Sorry but your math is off, it's growing by a factor of ~-1.896. Next year he's due to post a PER of -27.7, it'll be around the thirteenth worst season of all time, but the season after that, oh baby...

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:06

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

EvanTH posted:

Every region of this great nation seems to have their own powerful discount mattress/furniture khan, master of cheap commercials, commander of some huge warehouse store. Do you think they feud over the borders of their territories? I wonder what the margin is on that garbage?

800-588, 2300, vampires

I would never fight for Duke Bob. At best I'd be a foot soldier in the mattress wars, at worse I'd toil in the woods chopping endless trees for his insatiable lust of furniture

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:10

wandler20: Nov 13, 2002; How many Championships?

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Let Russ design OKC's jerseys

https://twitter.com/UpTheThunder/status/887348592599601152

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:11

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

he's still around

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/887488206391844864

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:45

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Vertical Lime posted:

he's still around

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/887488206391844864

Oh that's cool, it was really heartwarming to see him become beloved by a fanbase that had previously hated him (for good, pure basketball reasons) and then he got hurt and it felt like unfinished business

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:46

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Doltos posted:

I would never fight for Duke Bob. At best I'd be a foot soldier in the mattress wars, at worse I'd toil in the woods chopping endless trees for his insatiable lust of furniture

lol

wandler20 posted:

https://twitter.com/UpTheThunder/status/887348592599601152

why is this tweet from tomorrow in CBM's quote but from today in your post what the gently caress is happening

# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:50

Hashtag Banterzone: Dec 8, 2005; Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

zelah posted:

Portland:
White
Black
S.A.D. lamp
Warriors Jersey

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:09

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

the only special bulls jersey i want to see next season is a Butler 21 :smith:

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:14

NickRoweFillea: Sep 27, 2012; doin thangs

Cool Buff Man posted:

Oh that's cool, it was really heartwarming to see him become beloved by a fanbase that had previously hated him (for good, pure basketball reasons) and then he got hurt and it felt like unfinished business

Very much so! I'm happy Mario is back. Hopefully he can give spot minutes off the bench. Grizz got way too many guards though...gotta think they're making a trade.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:25

Brolander: Oct 20, 2008; i am but a vessel

flannel jerseys for portland for sure. a nice blackwatch

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:26

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/887495450890293252

https://twitter.com/MarkelleBenBiid/status/887497974653341697

I love that "LeBron is coming to the Sixers" is a thing now. As if we even needed another thing. We got so many things.

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:44

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

zoux posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/886979335109787648

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:48

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

R.D. Mangles posted:

lmao

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:50

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

R.D. Mangles posted:

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:55

Space Camp fuckup: Aug 2, 2003

R.D. Mangles posted:

# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:56

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

R.D. Mangles posted:

Holy poo poo

# ? Jul 19, 2017 04:00

Carlosologist: Oct 13, 2013; Revelry in the Dark

R.D. Mangles posted:

they should have sent a poet

# ? Jul 19, 2017 04:01

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

R.D. Mangles posted:

Haha

# ? Jul 19, 2017 04:05

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

R.D. Mangles posted:

unreal

# ? Jul 19, 2017 04:44

Brolander: Oct 20, 2008; i am but a vessel

straight up brolic posted:

lmao

are you cheesing me

# ? Jul 19, 2017 04:48

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

R.D. Mangles posted:

bruh

# ? Jul 19, 2017 05:01

Drunk Canuck: Jan 9, 2010; Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

I love you Mangles

# ? Jul 19, 2017 05:02

Zogo: Jul 29, 2003

Report: LeBron James frustrated with Cavaliers� offseason
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lebron-james-frustrated-cavaliers-191526597.html

"LeBron James, the NBA�s most powerful player and biggest star who brought the Cleveland Cavaliers their first NBA championship, is concerned about the Cavaliers� offseason, a person close to the situation told USA TODAY Sports.

Expecting an aggressive offseason approach that would close the gap on the champion Golden State Warriors, James soon found his anticipation and optimism diminished after Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert dismantled the front office, declining days before the draft and free agency to bring back general manager David Griffin and vice president of basketball operations Trent Redden.

Gilbert�s decision left the Cavs without the franchise�s top two front-office execs at a critical time, and it left James frustrated and concerned about the team�s ability to put together a roster that can better compete with Golden State, the person with direct knowledge of James� thinking told USA TODAY Sports."

Stephon Marbury calls 2004 Olympics �The worst 38 days of my life�
https://sports.yahoo.com/stephon-marbury-calls-2004-olympics-005822522.html

"Marbury says that on the first day of Olympics practice, Brown asked his players�a group that included LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson � to state their goals for the tournament.

�By the time he got to me, everything was said that needed to be said,�� Marbury says. �So I said, �Let�s also not forget that we need to have fun.� And Larry goes, �Huh. Listen to this guy, talking about having fun!��

Marbury was stung and embarrassed by Brown�s condescension. He calls the Olympic experience, �The worst 38 days of my life.""

iamsosmrt posted:

My prior point hinges on the following factors:
Klay IS the second best shooter in the world.

The Warriors have a unique chemistry and run a precision offense based around the deadly shooting of Klay, Steph and Durant.

Klay also showed the ability to sacrifice stats for the team when needed, becoming a lockdown defender. On that note, not sure who'd replace this if this trade happened. LeBron and Iggy are not guarding the Westbrook's and Irving's of the world for entire series.

Klay is no LeBron. He won't carry a team to the finals every year. But he fits this team perfectly.

I conceded before that LeBron on the Warriors would likely still win it all. But it would require people to adjust their roles, unless LeBron seemlessly replaced Klay's off ball cuts and spot up shooting. Maybe the rest of the big 3 would be fine with the ball in their hands less often. But maybe not?

Klay is a home grown guy and they're already a multiple title winning team, kind of lovely to gently caress with your team's legacy as far as that goes.

I'd say Klay is the second or third best 3P shooter since he's been in the league.

code:

3NP	Player
1143	Stephen Curry
817	Kyle Korver
813	Klay Thompson
602	J.J. Redick
426	Danny Green
383	Wesley Matthews
372	Kevin Durant
354	Jose Calderon
343	Ryan Anderson
328	Bradley Beal

Proclaiming him as #2 in overall shooting is overestimating his production. He's within the top ten over the last six years but well behind guys like KD and LBJ. Klay doesn't even shoot 50% from 2P range over that period.

Also, LBJ's FG shooting was #1 in the entire league last year (in hibernation/stasis mode). When talking about chemistry I'm not seeing a problem either. LBJ can guard positions 1-5. He shut down Rose when he was good.

I recall last year some saying KD wouldn't thrive on the Warriors for a lot of strange reasons: bad defense, needs the ball more etc.

Here's a thought experiment. If GSW and CLE exchanged Klay and LBJ going into the 2016 finals I think most would readily agree that the Warriors win consecutive titles. Then KD flees the burning OKC building and joins in 2017* and you're looking at excellent threepeat prospects. And going into 2018 the best shot at a 4peat since the 1960s Celtics.

I do agree that in 2016 LBJ + Curry and others may not have won 73 games but it's hard to be sure. LBJ would've probably told Curry to slow down so they only win 65 or so. I do believe most GSW fans would prefer three titles to a team winning 73 games (and 88 overall). Despite the fact that those two marks could still be records fifty years from now while rings get doled out each year. Most would take the rings and LBJ has a much higher peak value in the playoffs than Klay has as exhibited by dominating the finals five years:

code:

Player		 Multiple Finals GmSc leaders (since 1978)
Michael Jordan	 5
LeBron James	 5
Shaquille O'Neal 4
Magic Johnson	 3
Tim Duncan	 2
Moses Malone	 2
Larry Bird	 2
Kobe Bryant	 2
Hakeem Olajuwon	 2
Dwyane Wade	 2

As far as legacy the fans forget that stuff quickly. There are enough GSW fans here and I think they'd do the Klay for LBJ trade or even better the AI2 for LBJ trade.

*Yea, he said he wouldn't had GSW won but I don't believe him.

Zogo fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jul 19, 2017

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# ? May 16, 2024 11:27

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

R.D. Mangles posted:

I dont get it

# ? Jul 19, 2017 05:13

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