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Are we going to see Silicon Valley's inevitable collapse into the Alt-Right by the end of the decade?
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Jul 19, 2017 09:26
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Silicon Valley folks are more likely to be Dark Enlightenment techno-reactionaries than alt-right.
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Jul 19, 2017 10:23
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The ADL has published a who's who list of alt-right figures.
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Jul 19, 2017 10:55
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its amazing how quickly milo has rebounded from being a pedo. I guess everyone else in the alt-right is too
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Jul 19, 2017 12:36
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Silicon Valley folks are more likely to be Dark Enlightenment techno-reactionaries than alt-right. lots of Silicon Valley workers I know are democratic socialists.
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Jul 19, 2017 12:36
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Inescapable Duck posted:Are we going to see Silicon Valley's inevitable collapse into the Alt-Right by the end of the decade? gonna make an app to disrupt women
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Jul 19, 2017 12:38
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Dirk Pitt posted:lots of Silicon Valley workers I know are democratic socialists. you should ask them how they feel about their indian coworkers
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Jul 19, 2017 12:44
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Foreman Domai posted:The ADL has published a who's who list of alt-right figures. I'm kinda glad that I have no idea who any of those people (except spencer because we've all seen him getting punched). I am kind of smirking about that definition of alt lite though. It's so vague that they can pretty much call anyone who won't agree with them an alt righter.
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Jul 19, 2017 13:41
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Foreman Domai posted:The ADL has published a who's who list of alt-right figures. The alt-right list is dead on but looks like they missed Mike Enoch, who is one of the most important leaders of the alt-right.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:32
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spacetoaster posted:I'm kinda glad that I have no idea who any of those people (except spencer because we've all seen him getting punched). 
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Jul 19, 2017 16:16
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Montasque posted:The alt-right list is dead on but looks like they missed Mike Enoch, who is one of the most important leaders of the alt-right. Who's Mike Enoch, haven't heard of him before?
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Jul 19, 2017 16:16
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Yeah it wasn't vague at all lol
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Jul 19, 2017 16:22
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quote:generally shun white supremacist thinking, but who are in step with the alt right in their hatred of feminists and immigrants, among others. So even if someone isn't a white supremacist (but thinks like one?) they can still be called alt right if they say anything about women's issues/immigration that someone disagrees with. Then there's the "among others" part. I'm assuming that is just a catch-all. I'm also curious about how they define hatred. An ADL representative once told me that being against same sex marriage is hating gays (which would then put a significant portion of the democrat party in the alt-right camp). Equeen posted:Yeah it wasn't vague at all lol Everyone who's not me. 
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Jul 19, 2017 16:23
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spacetoaster posted:So even if someone isn't a white supremacist (but thinks like one?) they can still be called alt right if they say anything about women's issues/immigration that someone disagrees with. like, say, if their knee-jerk reaction to hearing a black guy stabbed to death by a neo-nazi was "he must have had it coming" the alt-light is a fascinating constellation of figures whose conservatism's alpha and omega is "gotta trigger the libs," and as such are totally willing to use/be used by the alt-right proper in the name of brand-building. they are surprisingly similar to liberal centrists in their core assumption being "no politics really affects me, it's all just a question of which side you like in the culture war." milo's got more in common with Hillary Clinton than he does with any of the alt-right figures he happily promoted; they're both professional grifters happy to wear whatever identity politics they think will help them that week. Clinton just grifts on a much higher level than the failed british pedophile could ever dream of doing.
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Jul 19, 2017 16:36
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Ze Pollack posted:like, say, if their knee-jerk reaction to hearing a black guy stabbed to death by a neo-nazi was "he must have had it coming" That makes sense. So I'm guessing the alt-lite is a bigger tent? I also wonder what dealings those personalities have, if any, with the alt-right. I would think that the moment one of those on the lite list start interacting with right list they'd be considered alt-right.
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Jul 19, 2017 16:37
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if you had to define the alt-lite in a sentence, it would be "I'm not actually a white supremacist, I just act like one to trigger liberals" they're waving a green version of a nazi flag ironically, you see
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Jul 19, 2017 16:39
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Ze Pollack posted:failed british guy could ever dream of doing. you don't need to spell out pedo, the british part implies it
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Jul 19, 2017 16:54
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Montasque posted:The alt-right list is dead on but looks like they missed Mike Enoch, who is one of the most important leaders of the alt-right. he's on there.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:37
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i'm just so tired of all these infowars
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Jul 19, 2017 17:45
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Mayor Dave posted:you should ask them how they feel about their indian coworkers lol
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Jul 19, 2017 17:48
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:i'm just so tired of all these infowars
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Jul 19, 2017 17:53
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spacetoaster posted:I'm kinda glad that I have no idea who any of those people (except spencer because we've all seen him getting punched). you're pretty dumb then if you read this thread
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Jul 19, 2017 18:08
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Dirk Pitt posted:lots of Silicon Valley workers I know are democratic socialists. ask them how they feel about starting a programmers union
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Jul 19, 2017 18:20
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Zikan posted:ask them how they feel about starting a programmers union the DSA has a pretty big tech caucus and plenty of people trying to unionize tech offices these are just usually outnumbered by libertarians and gamergate truthers
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Jul 19, 2017 18:29
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:i'm just so tired of all these infowars No infowars but class infowars
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Jul 19, 2017 18:37
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quote:I'm also curious about how they define hatred. An ADL representative once told me that being against same sex marriage is hating gays (which would then put a significant portion of the democrat party in the alt-right camp). 
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Jul 19, 2017 18:38
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Zikan posted:ask them how they feel about starting a programmers union I'll just put it out there, while we're on the subject, that the Tech Workers Coalition exists. Plenty of poo poo tech workers out there, but some of us are starting to get together and organize.
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Jul 19, 2017 18:39
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Mayor Dave posted:you should ask them how they feel about their indian coworkers IDGI. Again, most people I know don’t like the H1-B visa program for various reasons. It is a little bit nuanced. I say this as I safely sit in Stockholm as an imported worker, but I have full rights. [quote="“Zikan”" post="“474517613”"] ask them how they feel about starting a programmers union [/quote] In the conversations I’ve had with my buddies in SF, many don’t care to unionize (duh) but don’t oppose workers who want to join a union. in our office in Sweden we have a few union workers and no one gives a poo poo. I used to be opposed to tech unions, now I see how union employees and non-union and management (and their union employees) can all function together. Dirk Pitt has issued a correction as of 18:42 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 18:39
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theflyingexecutive posted:you're pretty dumb then if you read this thread Yes. And I skip to the last post every time I read it.
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Jul 19, 2017 18:55
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spacetoaster posted:Yes. And I skip to the last post every time I read it. sorry about that 
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Jul 19, 2017 18:57
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Jose posted:its amazing how quickly milo has rebounded from being a pedo. I guess everyone else in the alt-right is too Turns out you can bounce back from anything with several million dollars.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:13
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KomradeX posted:Who's Mike Enoch, haven't heard of him before? He's the most anti-Semitic of Spencer's little circle... And he's married to a Jewish woman... Darkman Fanpage posted:he's on there. You are correct. They have him listed as Mike Peinovich, so I missed him on my skim through.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:21
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I don't agree with McInnis being alt-lite, Proud Boys are some of the few actively organized extremely fat and pasty brownshirts out there
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Jul 19, 2017 19:26
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Also they misspelled Thernovith's name
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Jul 19, 2017 19:27
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Enoch is an "alt-right leader" in the same sense that Matt Christman is actually Stalin. Enoch isn't even considered the "talent" of The Daily Shoah, and he plays second fiddle to Dickspence.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:28
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Montasque posted:He's the most anti-Semitic of Spencer's little circle... And he's married to a Jewish woman... Doesn't that get the other Nazis mad at him? Like I guess it's that classic racist power thing but man this poo poo is never not mind boggling
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Jul 19, 2017 19:30
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Enoch's wife isn't actually Jewish, but the Nazis think she is because they're heavily invested into blood quantum. After he got doxxed, Enoch had to go back on Daily Shoah and practically grovel for forrgiveness - and even said that he understands why he'd have no place in the white ethnostate.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:34
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it's okay for men to have sex with lower races but women must only sleep with white men
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Jul 19, 2017 19:35
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Enoch's wife isn't actually Jewish, but the Nazis think she is because they're heavily invested into blood quantum. After he got doxxed, Enoch had to go back on Daily Shoah and practically grovel for forrgiveness - and even said that he understands why he'd have no place in the white ethnostate. talk about a cuck. "  i know you guys will probably kill me for the crime of race mixing but PLEEEEEEEEASE let me back into the clubhouse!"
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Jul 19, 2017 19:36
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Do you think Glenn Beck would be an alt-right god right now if hadn't hitched his horse so horribly incorrectly? He seemed like a prototype figure when it came to poo poo like accusing Grover Norquist of being a terrorist because his wife is Muslim
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Jul 19, 2017 19:48
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