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Who What Now posted:Learn to take a joke, Mr Funnyman. Dude, from your posts in this thread, all of these internet-intellectuals have nothing on you in terms of being a vindictive rear end in a top hat on the internet. You need to calm down.
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Jul 19, 2017 14:18
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What is it with people coming in and trying to act serious in a mock thread? You never saw this in the Freep one, but oddly enough did in the Reddit one that got killed a few years ago....
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Jul 19, 2017 14:21
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Monglo posted:Dude, from your posts in this thread, all of these internet-intellectuals have nothing on you in terms of being a vindictive rear end in a top hat on the internet. I've never doxxed or gone on targeted harassment campaigns over Twitter, so nah, I'm objectively better than them. And I'm not sure why someone who is acting so hysterical is telling anybody to calm down.
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Jul 19, 2017 14:41
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Who What Now posted:I've never doxxed or gone on targeted harassment campaigns over Twitter, so nah, I'm objectively better than them. And I'm not sure why someone who is acting so hysterical is telling anybody to calm down. It's because, like PL, this person is not intellectually honest. Or they are and genuinely believe 'being called a bigot' is worse than being the victim of bigotry or something.
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Jul 19, 2017 14:43
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It's both, always.
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Jul 19, 2017 14:51
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Monglo posted:You're right, sorry - I'll try and concentrate on making jokes next time. I just don't like when people go overboard with the nazi-calling, it's really dumb. Hyperbolic, insulting and uncompromising. That's not the way to go if you want to fix things. And if you don't, why do you care that someone's being bigoted? You are a joke
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Jul 19, 2017 15:07
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Lightning Lord posted:Stop responding to these pepes, it really ruins the thread. Just a minor tweak, but it reads much better now.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:50
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Who What Now posted:Learn to take a joke, Mr Funnyman. 
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Jul 19, 2017 16:15
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The idea that all humor should be permissible is so transparently ridiculous that it amazes me anyone can actually believe that. Throughout history there are, and have been, countless jokes that are transparently racist in nature and were directly intended to maliciously denigrate people of the targeted race/ethnic group. And people even find/found them genuinely funny! The idea that there's some fundamental barrier between the nature of humor and other forms of speech is absurd. There's no meaningful difference between calling someone a racial slur and making a joke that is intended to belittle/insult people of a different race/ethnic group.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:16
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Ytlaya posted:The idea that all humor should be permissible is so transparently ridiculous that it amazes me anyone can actually believe that. Throughout history there are, and have been, countless jokes that are transparently racist in nature and were directly intended to maliciously denigrate people of the targeted race/ethnic group. And people even find/found them genuinely funny! Exactly this. And to compound it, people who seem to be very adamant that you should be able to joke about anything sure do seem to get really upset when you make jokes about people and things that they like and care about. So it's just plain disingenuous from front to back.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:25
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Ytlaya posted:The idea that all humor should be permissible is so transparently ridiculous that it amazes me anyone can actually believe that. Throughout history there are, and have been, countless jokes that are transparently racist in nature and were directly intended to maliciously denigrate people of the targeted race/ethnic group. And people even find/found them genuinely funny! All humor is permissible. They can make all the jokes about anything they want and the only consequences are people saying they don't personally find it funny and as a result will avoid this comedian's work in the future.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:28
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Frankie Boyle is one of my liked comedians who has pretty much been in controversy after controversy and is a pretty cool guy over all.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:37
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I can get up on stage and yell slurs for six hours straight and the only price that I'll pay is probably my burgeoning stand-up career will not end up taking off. They already have what they want.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:39
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Who What Now posted:Exactly this. And to compound it, people who seem to be very adamant that you should be able to joke about anything sure do seem to get really upset when you make jokes about people and things that they like and care about. So it's just plain disingenuous from front to back. Honestly, the extent to which the alt-right (and conservatives in general I guess) define their ideology by projecting their own feelings onto others is downright uncanny (I mean, everyone does it to some extent, but they take it to a totally different level). They end up reaching all these bizarre conclusions because they assume that everyone else is just as terrible and dumb as they are. On the topic of dumb Youtube rationals/alt-right folks, I think I've decided that my least favorite of them all is Kraut and Tea. He somehow manages to come off as even more bitter and angry than his peers and strikes me as being the closest to going full-Nazi. Most of the others, like Sargon or Armoured Skeptic, just come off like some random dumb rear end in a top hat, but Kraut and Tea seems like the type who could very easily slip into literally wanting to genocide people (if he hasn't already). That one discussion with the other Youtube "rationals" that Shaun and Jen referenced during one of his videos is a good example; even some of his peers were like "what the gently caress dude."
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Jul 19, 2017 17:40
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Folks upset clearly didn't get Kramer's jokes.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:41
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I've never heard anyone be able to inject as much venom into their voice as Kraut and Tea.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:42
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You don't get it. I should be able to do a set of myself naked with swastikas inked on my junk, singing a rap that rhymes the n-word with the n-word every verse, and no one should be able to say anything about it other than "It's not my kind of humor" or maybe "It went over my head, I guess." Anything less and we are in a totalitarian PC dystopia and we should fire college teachers and pundits until normality is restored. Maybe even institute some public watch to preserve Freedom, like they do in Saudi Arabia. Comitte for the Promotion of Kek and the Prevention of SJW.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:42
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Ytlaya posted:On the topic of dumb Youtube rationals/alt-right folks, I think I've decided that my least favorite of them all is Kraut and Tea. He somehow manages to come off as even more bitter and angry than his peers and strikes me as being the closest to going full-Nazi. Most of the others, like Sargon or Armoured Skeptic, just come off like some random dumb rear end in a top hat, but Kraut and Tea seems like the type who could very easily slip into literally wanting to genocide people (if he hasn't already). That one discussion with the other Youtube "rationals" that Shaun and Jen referenced during one of his videos is a good example; even some of his peers were like "what the gently caress dude." Most of the rationals aren't full on into killing everyone, they're just extremely, extremely comfortable with the social status quo. They see new groups of people getting voices as being an attack on that status quo and since they're into it, an attack on them. They want people to shut up, not slaughter them. For all they whine about liberals they're deeply into the liberal consensus.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:43
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Lightning Lord posted:All humor is permissible. They can make all the jokes about anything they want and the only consequences are people saying they don't personally find it funny and as a result will avoid this comedian's work in the future. I think it is ok to say you don't find something funny. But there are a good bunch of people who like to pretend that a comedy show morphes into a TED talk the moment they find a joke uncomfortable. TED talks are a joke though (no pun intended). Midig fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 17:45
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Midig posted:I think it is ok to say you don't find something funny. But there are a good bunch of people who like to pretend that a comedy show morphes into a TED talk the moment they find a joke uncomfortable. TED talks are a joke though (no pun intended). So you're saying that too many people hear racist jokes and believe the person telling them is being 100% serious?
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Jul 19, 2017 17:48
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Midig posted:I think it is ok to say you don't find something funny. But there are a good bunch of people who like to pretend that a comedy show morphes into a TED talk the moment they find a joke uncomfortable. TED talks are a joke though (no pun intended). What does this even mean? Are you having a stroke?
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Jul 19, 2017 17:50
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Lightning Lord posted:So you're saying that too many people hear racist jokes and believe the person telling them is being 100% serious? I wasn't really going for that angle specifically. But I do think people act like it is serious if they get offended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4DLWkfjpIs
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Jul 19, 2017 17:51
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You can seriously believe the things you make jokes about. You know that right? Like, that is a possible thing humans can do.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:55
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Who What Now posted:You can seriously believe the things you make jokes about. You know that right? Like, that is a possible thing humans can do. If you are Bill Maher I guess.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:58
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Midig posted:I wasn't really going for that angle specifically. But I do think people act like it is serious if they get offended. I think the joke Jefferies told was actually funny and well-crafted even if it's about a distasteful topic. Often what's discussed in here is people just saying slurs or peppering their recruitment monologues with jokes.
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Jul 19, 2017 17:58
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Midig posted:If you are Bill Maher I guess. Oh Christ, is it really time for you to go down this trail again?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOb2KQHr7V0
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Ytlaya posted:Honestly, the extent to which the alt-right (and conservatives in general I guess) define their ideology by projecting their own feelings onto others is downright uncanny... https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politics "At first they came for the comedians, and I honestly took no issue with that because I'm a terminally unfunny asswipe who finds pretty much everything 'problematic'..."
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Jul 19, 2017 18:04
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Extreme0 posted:Frankie Boyle is one of my liked comedians who has pretty much been in controversy after controversy and is a pretty cool guy over all. I liked it when he made jokes about a blind autistic kid raping his mother because he cant understand right and wrong due to being autistic!
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Jul 19, 2017 18:05
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jfood posted:https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politics Get back to us when it happens to somebody that's actually funny.
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Jul 19, 2017 18:18
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Who What Now posted:Get back to us when it happens to somebody that's actually funny. I agree that Jeet Heer is not funny
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jfood posted:https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politics Holy poo poo, that was a terrible article, I love how jeet tries to spin the bend the knee line into hardcore sexism and etc. gently caress jeet. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Ytlaya posted:On the topic of dumb Youtube rationals/alt-right folks, I think I've decided that my least favorite of them all is Kraut and Tea. He somehow manages to come off as even more bitter and angry than his peers and strikes me as being the closest to going full-Nazi. Most of the others, like Sargon or Armoured Skeptic, just come off like some random dumb rear end in a top hat, but Kraut and Tea seems like the type who could very easily slip into literally wanting to genocide people (if he hasn't already). That one discussion with the other Youtube "rationals" that Shaun and Jen referenced during one of his videos is a good example; even some of his peers were like "what the gently caress dude." Kraut's got Jewish family & thus hates Nazis, but has somehow never noticed that how they talk about Jews is exactly how he talks about Muslims
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it shaun posted:Kraut's got Jewish family & thus hates Nazis, but has somehow never noticed that how they talk about Jews is exactly how he talks about Muslims But that apparently couldn't stop him from wanting Shaun and Jen to get shoved into an oven.
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it shaun posted:Kraut's got Jewish family & thus hates Nazis, but has somehow never noticed that how they talk about Jews is exactly how he talks about Muslims jewish people can be fascists too
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jfood posted:https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politics Man, Jeet Heer is really salty about that "bend the knee" thing. It's kinda funny, since mainstream Democrats have been acting that way to leftists (just in a more "polite" way, since they were comfortable in their dominance) since forever. I don't really understand what point he's trying to make here. It makes sense to be angry about the stuff Republicans and moderate Democrats do, and I don't see how being friendly to such people helps anyone. The article also seems to make the mistake of assuming that something like Chapo is aimed at the general public as some sort of socialist advertisement, when it's obviously media intended for leftists (in the same way something like the Daily Show - which you might notice these people rarely complain about - is intended for liberals). The general idea that the issue with the alt-right is its ~attitude~ rather than its noxious and harmful ideology is also super dumb. I don't really have much of an opinion on Chapo itself (I don't listen to it), but I don't see much harm with the current leftist attitude in the US; if anything, this is the most leftists have been able to influence national discourse in decades, so it clearly seems to be working better than whatever people were doing before!
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OwlFancier posted:Comedy should be ideologically correct. Apparently that applies to every thing. Ytlaya posted:Man, Jeet Heer is really salty about that "bend the knee" thing. It's kinda funny, since mainstream Democrats have been acting that way to leftists (just in a more "polite" way, since they were comfortable in their dominance) since forever.
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