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GWBBQ posted:You can print parts, but they don't last long. A libertarian activist released files for an entirely 3D printed gun before the State Department called it arms trafficking and made them pull it (at which point it instantly popped up on TPB and other places).
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My family has about 10 - 12 guns (a couple revolvers, a couple shotties, a couple pistols, an M1 Garand and hunting rifle that Gramps gave my Dad a long birthday ago, some other stuff I can't remember) and they are all inherited from my grandparents, not one of them bought by us. We haven't been to the range in ages. There is no way they aren't going to end up flooding out the market someday.
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haveblue posted:A libertarian activist released files for an entirely 3D printed gun before the State Department called it arms trafficking and made them pull it (at which point it instantly popped up on TPB and other places). Technically it is a gun yes, but it's the shittiest version of one. Technologically it's basically a short barreled musket that is liable to explode. There is a reason why we don't make guns out of normal plastic.
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GWBBQ posted:I'm in my early 30s and own 6 guns, but I inherited two, bought two on the local store's 75% off rack, and one is a Mosin Nagant from the pre-Obama days when they cost $70. Even with the $400 AK, I'm under $600. What the gently caress I just looked it up and when did Nagants get so loving expensive 
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Yessod posted:This was certainly my experience in Oakland in the 90s. Primary difference was that the local street gang found and gave me back my bike when it got stolen, and the cops just took money straight out of my paycheck. I'd like to know how you got that gang to help you.
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https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/887755646845816833 I guess this is plan D now?
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Brony Car posted:I'd like to know how you got that gang to help you. I assume breakdancing was involved.
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Feldegast42 posted:My family has about 10 - 12 guns (a couple revolvers, a couple shotties, a couple pistols, an M1 Garand and hunting rifle that Gramps gave my Dad a long birthday ago, some other stuff I can't remember) and they are all inherited from my grandparents, not one of them bought by us. We haven't been to the range in ages. There is no way they aren't going to end up flooding out the market someday. "Inheriting a big heap of crappy old guns" is going to be the curse of the millenial generation, comparable to the current issue of "inheriting a lot of ugly antique furniture and heirloom tea sets" for Generation X. Try to encourage your paranoid elderly relatives to invest in gold bars, at least they are easier to unload when the time comes.
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Fart City posted:The Midwest says "hello."
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"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? Like there is infinity stuff wrong with the gun industry but don't act like it's some alien thing no one could understand, it's how literally every interest or hobby works. If you like fishing you obsess about getting the best fishing gear, if you like electronics you want that weird new 2 dollar radar motion sensor for your projects, if you like guns there is always a next gun because you have a close range high rate of fire and a mid range low rate of fire and a high range high rate of fire but no mid range high rate of fire gun. Even if you like old stuff like coin collecting you want to collect all the coins in some set or other.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Hurm... Could I legally open a gun store that was a giant gachapon machine? You could if you managed to style it similar to a payday loan store. Call it a Gunday loan store or something, where people trade you their paycheck for an equivalent value gun and have to pay you back with two equivalent cost guns two weeks later? It will be the bane of gun toting right wing nutjobs
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CoasterMaster posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/887755646845816833 Good thing there's nothing else that they could be working on right now instead of rehashing it over and over and over and over.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? "shooting guns" being a hobby is pretty loving ridiculous to most normal people, hth
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BarbarianElephant posted:"Inheriting a big heap of crappy old guns" is going to be the curse of the millenial generation, comparable to the current issue of "inheriting a lot of ugly antique furniture and heirloom tea sets" for Generation X. Nah my paranoid elderly relatives are ahead of the curve on that one, but its silver instead of gold. Silver! We also have (a? the?) holy sword of the masonic order in my grandma's attic as well. I've been badgering my folks for ages to rummage through that attic whenever we go visit over Christmas because there must be a lot of cool / crazy poo poo up there.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? Nah. This sort of thinking leads to hoarding behavior. I've got two guitars and that's good enough for me. Owning more than a couple guns seems like a nightmare to maintain all the time.
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But will the greatest deal maker in the world, Donald John trump, be on hand to bang out nitpicky policy details like only he can?
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botany posted:"shooting guns" being a hobby is pretty loving ridiculous to most normal people, hth So is coin collecting, playing clarinet, video games, reading, etc depending on the person you're talking to.
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FizFashizzle posted:The pee tape is real Lightning Lord posted:So long Rojava. botany posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/watch-nra-tv-hosts-warn-white-families-will-be-tortured-and-killed-if-black-lives-matter-succeeds/ Hello RaHoWa. 
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? It's really funny since most people itt probably have like a hundred games on steam that they haven't even played and probably never will.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? I have a doctorate in clarinet and I loving hate spending money on my god drat clarinet.
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PneumonicBook posted:So is coin collecting, playing clarinet, video games, reading, etc depending on the person you're talking to. Collecting is closer to a mental illness than a hobby as far as I'm concerned.
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Robot Hobo posted:If I told any relative on my Mom's side of the family (Mom excluded) that I don't own any guns at all, I think they would fully believe I was joking. The alternative, that I just don't feel a desire or need for a firearm, would seem too crazy to be true. You and I are firmly set in the same camp. According to one particularly noxious brother-in-law that disinterest in the need to own a gun classifies us as "pre-victims," which pretty much effectively sums up how I imagine most of his ilk see the world.
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PneumonicBook posted:So is coin collecting, playing clarinet, video games, reading, etc depending on the person you're talking to. yeah except none of those are designed to literally kill people so gently caress off with that
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Hurm... Could I legally open a gun store that was a giant gachapon machine? You'd have to invent a machine that could process the background check forms, and probably still need a human operator to hold the FFL license
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The proportion of households with at least one gun declines by on average 0.4% a year, and has dropped from 47% in 1973 to 31% in 2014. In the same period the proportion of Americans who hunt halved from 32% to 15.4%
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There Bias Two posted:Nah. This sort of thinking leads to hoarding behavior. I've got two guitars and that's good enough for me. Why do you need two guitars? Isn't one guitar all you need?
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Technically it is a gun yes, but it's the shittiest version of one. Technologically it's basically a short barreled musket that is liable to explode. While you're not wrong about that one, it's a viable proof of concept. Realistically you don't need to make the whole gun printable, just the serialized part. For an AR that's the lower receiver, for handguns that can be the slide or the frame. The rest of the parts can be purchased with no issue online with no tracking or restriction. On top of that: Desktop/consumer CNC mills are becoming more and more accurate and reliable. A group similar to the ones who made the Liberator (actually they may be the same people) are/were working on a dedicated "80%" CNC mill. Named as such because federal law dictates that up to 80% of the manufacturing can go into a serialized part before it "becomes" a handgun and regulated. Otherwise it's just the same as a billet of metal. So basically they came up with a mill that will just do that last 20% of the work for you. Combine that with what I said about the other parts and you have a fully reliable firearm. Then there's the fact that 3dprinting tech is advancing super fast right now for the consumer market as patents expire and people experiment more and more. Resin printing in high strength materials, SLS metal printing that makes parts as strong as any cast metal, and new ways of doing FDM (the hot glue style printing that the first Liberator was made with) mean it's less and less "pie in the sky" to say that mass consumer level production of firearms is near.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? I have yet to meet any gun owner who didn't have secret (or not so secret) fantasies of getting into an armed confrontation with the federal government. I could not say the same thing about people who are into, say, archery.
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So owning guns is just like my waifu mobage, except the gun waifus can literally kill people
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empty whippet box posted:But will the greatest deal maker in the world, Donald John trump, be on hand to bang out nitpicky policy details like only he can? I get why Trump acts as if every Republican in any part of the government is his employee, who he can personally fire if they don't obey his every word. What I'm much more bothered by is the fact that every R in Congress behaves as if they also believe it.
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There Bias Two posted:Collecting is closer to a mental illness than a hobby as far as I'm concerned. Don't post poo poo like this, tia
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botany posted:yeah except none of those are designed to literally kill people so gently caress off with that I'm a leftist who agrees with gun control but this rhetoric is loving insufferable fyi, and will never lead to any worthwhile discussion in this country.
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Brony Car posted:I'd like to know how you got that gang to help you. Some of them lived next door. Shortly after I moved in, one guy asked me for a cigarette and I gave him two. When their family had barbecues they'd invite the block, I'd bring beer to share. So basically I was a good neighbor, friendly and didn't start poo poo, and so when I was bitching about my bike going missing the said they'd see what they could do.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Why do you need two guitars? Isn't one guitar all you need? Electric and acoustic have drastically different sounds, so I wouldn't consider them redundant. If I had 7 on the other hand...
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Like I literally have OCD and have had to work extremely hard not become a hoarder. It's not the same as your friend's guitar collection (especially since guitars all have different sounds and feels) or your friend who plays a trading card game. Don't call hobbies mental illness just because you don't understand them.
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Bicyclops posted:Don't post poo poo like this, tia He's not wrong.
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When I left Kentucky (before 9/11) one of my friend's family was stockpiling guns (they had hundreds already of all shapes and sizes). They had just installed giant water tanks and were digging holes to build a "bunker" in their backyard. They told me they were waiting till the "mongol horde invades this country, then yall will see why!". They were literally afraid of Chinese soldiers walking over their bluegrass. I assume that kind of thinking is still in play today, but probably now focused on Middle-easterners or BLM.
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PneumonicBook posted:I'm a leftist who agrees with gun control but this rhetoric is loving insufferable fyi, and will never lead to any worthwhile discussion in this country. it's just too bad that d&d shitposting is stopping us all from coming up with the proper messaging to reach the republican electorate of the united states of america
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There Bias Two posted:Owning more than a couple guns seems like a nightmare to maintain all the time. Nah. Cover the gun in cosmoline, and forget about it and itll be the same 50 years later. Its what the Soviets did!
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There is a very clear difference between collecting guns and psuedo-preppers. If someone has a Mosin-Nagant because they think it's cool, then sweet. If someone has a M249 "just in case" then there are problems. Guns are innately exciting and cool, because they are loud and dangerous. The trick is to not get too enthusiastic about them because then you end up as an open carry advocate.
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