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codo27 posted:10 loving years ago in 2007 I bought a Creative Labs Zen mp3 player that had 30gb of storage. Anything less than 100gb shouldn't be allowed to be sold today unless it's under $200. My friend has a loving 8gb Moto and she can't even update her apps. Gf constantly having to juggle poo poo on her 16gb iPhone 6S! I mean that's not an old phone. And they want drat near 1000 bucks for a flagship in Canada. More for an S8 or iShit 7. You needn't tell me it's not feasible to jam at least 128gb into any phone worthwhile when the fuckin thing costs $500+ Huh.
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BrienneGetsHanged posted:Hello. I am looking to get a new upgrade for my phone. What phone do you recommend I buy? Please also explain the best features of the phone you recommend me. Thanks Moto G5+ = good all rounder, decent price Pixel = great all rounder, excellent camera and responsiveness, expensive Incessant Excess fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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codo27 posted:Laugh all you want but Windows phone was the only good mobile OS I've ever used except for the lack of apps which I was fine with til snapchat disallowed third party apps (never was an official one available). But it was infinitely smoother and more stable than Android and iOS and I really liked how it was lightyears ahead of them in hands free control. I could easily read texts out loud in the car and dictate responses with no physical input at all which I still can't do with Android, and that's just bonkers. Partly the fault of my Honda too which leaves a lot to be desired in that regard. They have a big hard on for Apple but I have gently caress all functionality with anything else and the drat car is a '15. codo27 posted:10 loving years ago in 2007 I bought a Creative Labs Zen mp3 player that had 30gb of storage. Anything less than 100gb shouldn't be allowed to be sold today unless it's under $200. My friend has a loving 8gb Moto and she can't even update her apps. Gf constantly having to juggle poo poo on her 16gb iPhone 6S! I mean that's not an old phone. And they want drat near 1000 bucks for a flagship in Canada. More for an S8 or iShit 7. You needn't tell me it's not feasible to jam at least 128gb into any phone worthwhile when the fuckin thing costs $500+ lol goddamn. Tell us more. Fan of SD cards?
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Jul 19, 2017 18:39
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Is managing SD card storage really that difficult? I'd think it shouldn't be that difficult to keep media on the SD card and apps on the internal storage.
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Jul 19, 2017 18:41
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Incessant Excess posted:Moto G5+ = good all rounder, decent price Yeah, basically this. As of this moment pretty much any recommendation that gets thrown around is going to boil down to these two and the separating factor being your budget. Pretty much any other Android phone comes with huge red flags or is straight up inferior to the above two.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Is managing SD card storage really that difficult? I'd think it shouldn't be that difficult to keep media on the SD card and apps on the internal storage. It's a bit stupid, due to a combination of permission changes and a push to keep the user from dealing with files. It's quite obtuse to manage data on a device's filesystem at times.
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Jul 19, 2017 18:51
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You don't need to screw with filesystem. Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Vudu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime Video all allow you to save offline playback to SD card with a simple setting change in app. That's neither a pro or con for SD cards, it's just a statement of fact.
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Incessant Excess posted:Moto G5+ = good all rounder, decent price CLAM DOWN, your new thread OP has been wrote for you.
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bull3964 posted:You don't need to screw with filesystem. yeah but does crunchyroll~ 
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I know its of limited interest to this thread but it looks like LG is offering to extend the warranty on the G6 to two years for registered owners.
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Jacobus Spades posted:I know its of limited interest to this thread but it looks like LG is offering to extend the warranty on the G6 to two years for registered owners. You could be covered for not one but two bootloops!
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bull3964 posted:You don't need to screw with filesystem. You can move a lot of apps entirely to the SD card. Not all, and some will lose features if you choose to. Just look at application info and storage to see if you can move it. AppMgr Pro III will let you know what you can safely move to the card. Like if you have 16GB and still want to have Planescape Torment Edition, TWoM and The Room Three installed on your cheap rear end phone. Android will not let apps on the card have certain permissions so don't move phone.apk or w/e obviously.
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When I was using my backup phone (8GB onboard storage, lol), I moved Awful and Feedly to the card. Whenever I rebooted (due to installing a bunch of past updates), it would remove both those apps from the home screen. Dunno if it was Android or lovely Samsung mods or what, but it was super annoying. If I didn't move my apps, the photo gallery would fail to open due to space issues. I'm assuming it was trying to create thumbnails.
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Jul 19, 2017 20:29
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HMD Global's CEO just abruptly left. That may mean there's trouble ahead for Nokias re-launch.
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syscall girl posted:You can move a lot of apps entirely to the SD card. This is in itself annoying. Even then it doesn't guarantee that it doesn't stop using the main storage for its cache. Or that it cleans its poo poo out when you delete it, which applies in any case. This idea that you shouldn't janitor your device is nice, but it should have been applying to desktop computers since forever, but it turns out you still have to because there isn't a single, unified way of doing things which everyone follows. But if you start out with healthy sized built in storage, leave all the apps on it, but use the SD card for photos (change in camera app) and media (if you like me still enjoy that warm sound of physical MP3 files), your storage budget will look a lot better for minimal effort.
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PerrineClostermann posted:It's a bit stupid, due to a combination of permission changes and a push to keep the user from dealing with files. It's quite obtuse to manage data on a device's filesystem at times. You're telling me about obtuse to manage data. I was having a lot of trouble getting some stuff off of my old phone, so I tried getting it through Windows. Every drat thing was hidden and I couldn't get it unhidden. It's probably possible, but I just have no experience with Android. It's like the opposite of Linux as far as letting you do poo poo goes.
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Ola posted:But if you start out with healthy sized built in storage, leave all the apps on it, but use the SD card for photos (change in camera app) and media (if you like me still enjoy that warm sound of physical MP3 files), your storage budget will look a lot better for minimal effort. That's all I do. My SD card is where my photos, MP3s and videos live, and life is good and simple. Google wants me to live in a fantasy land of unlimited mobile data but I'm not there yet.
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I think I'm finally ready to ditch my old GSIII since my OG Turbo bit the dust a while back. What phones should I be considering if I really only care about battery life and security updates. But mostly battery life.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:09
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The Duggler posted:Pixel XL If that's the case, I may as well hold out a couple more months until there are concrete details on its follow up, right? I've made it this far I suppose.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:12
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Probably not. Just go ahead and get one now because if the Pixel 2 goes anything like the first, it'll be on back order well into next year. Google also has a real good track record of supporting old phones vs someone like Motorola who generally supports a phone for about 1-2 years, or OnePlus who support a phone until the next model comes out 4-6 months later.
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DeathSandwich posted:Probably not. Just go ahead and get one now because if the Pixel 2 goes anything like the first, it'll be on back order well into next year.
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Ola posted:This is in itself annoying. Even then it doesn't guarantee that it doesn't stop using the main storage for its cache. Or that it cleans its poo poo out when you delete it, which applies in any case. This idea that you shouldn't janitor your device is nice, but it should have been applying to desktop computers since forever, but it turns out you still have to because there isn't a single, unified way of doing things which everyone follows. I'm not saying that the status quo is right but my free phone + a 128gb SD card means I can have all my music and photos and shove some of the larger games (which I never play but w/e) onto it. My friend kind of chuckled when I said I bought that card and that his was 128 from the get go, which is nice and convenient but I make do with what I have. And like I said, AppMgr III is a convenient way of finding out what apps you can get off of built-in without too much hassle. I stopped janitoring my phone a while ago but got it to the point where my needs are met and cost me nothing (but time)
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butt dickus posted:Or just order it right when it becomes available? I've gotten Nexuses 4, 5, 6P and a Pixel XL at launch this way with no trouble. This is basically the only way, I ordered mine before the release livestream ended and still ended up with a 10/24 delivery date. I mean that isn't a complaint since I wasn't in a big rush but you're basically looking at weeks of backorders unless you order on day one.
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Incessant Excess posted:You could be covered for not one but two bootloops! My soul is prepared.  (it arrived today, I'll open it after work)
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Apparently The Verge feels strongly about Bixby:The Verge posted:I can’t help but feel like Bixby is just another riff on S Voice, Samsung’s first voice-controlled digital assistant. It may have a few more tricks up its sleeve, but it’s just as slow, buggy, and useless as S Voice, which means it will be used just as infrequently. If Samsung is as committed to Bixby as it claims, it will continue to improve it and make it better, but even if it does, that will probably be too late, as studies have shown that people tend to stop using voice assistants when they don’t do what they want. https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/19/15998258/samsung-bixby-voice-galaxy-s8-review They even went so far as to call Bixby physical bloat due to the unremappable hardware button. Sarnsung'd again.
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syscall girl posted:I'm not saying that the status quo is right but my free phone + a 128gb SD card means I can have all my music and photos and shove some of the larger games (which I never play but w/e) onto it. Also that phone that started at 128gb is going to cost an extra $150-200 to replace, and so is the next one, and that SD card will still be there, still at a total of ~$45.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Also that phone that started at 128gb is going to cost an extra $150-200 to replace, and so is the next one, and that SD card will still be there, still at a total of ~$45. It costs $100 to go from 32 to 128 GB with a Pixel. Anyway, phones with more storage will sell for more used. Swappa has 32 GB Nexus 6p for $250-260, 128 GB for $330-340. New, the price difference was $150.
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CLAM DOWN posted:The Verge isn't wrong. One of the only times this can be said accurately.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Also that phone that started at 128gb is going to cost an extra $150-200 to replace, and so is the next one, and that SD card will still be there, still at a total of ~$45. And when the SD card dies and takes all your data with it, well, that is priceless.
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A) phones die too B) make backups of your poo poo.
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This LG G6 has more menus than a Japanese SRPG, and more tutorial pop ups than a Far Cry title. Also, no GBoard by default, even though integrated gif search is the greatest feature to ever be added to smartphones.
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I've never used more than 16gb of storage on a phone ama The cloud is actually good and can store whatever crap you have. Photos, music, videos, audio books, random files. It's faster and easier to access it that way than keeping that data on your file system. Even on my desktop I don't store important files, just programs and games and crap like that. All instantly replaceable.
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Peachfart posted:And when the SD card dies and takes all your data with it, well, that is priceless. Good call. Guess I could do something to circumvent that problem. Or not. Do you have any exciting opinions about SSDs to share with the group?
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What's a good replacement for GBoard? Swyping on it is horrifically inaccurate, and its suggestions are poor too. It wasn't always this way, but it's been getting worse for months and I can hardly stand it.
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syscall girl posted:Good call. SSDs are orders of magnitude more reliable than SD cards, and most things with an SSD can have a real backup solution, unlike Android phones.
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syscall girl posted:Good call. Other people's computers are good, friend. Love the cloud. Embrace the cloud.
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PerrineClostermann posted:What's a good replacement for GBoard? Swyping on it is horrifically inaccurate, and its suggestions are poor too. It wasn't always this way, but it's been getting worse for months and I can hardly stand it. Honestly, probably Swype.
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Taffer posted:I've never used more than 16gb of storage on a phone ama I like keeping music on my actual phone so I'm not using data and can listen even if I'm going way out in the boonies. If you live somewhere with unlimited reliable 4g data wherever you need to go, that's not as much of an issue. My 16gb phone isn't full, but I've culled a few big apps I never use, and I'm not a ~*power user*~. I would still like to get an SD card just so I can stick more music on it. IuniusBrutus posted:SSDs are orders of magnitude more reliable than SD cards, and most things with an SSD can have a real backup solution, unlike Android phones. Pretend I posted a picture of my laptop's SD card slot.
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