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Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

bewbies posted:

really thought that was roger federer

That made me look and...wow. No kidding.

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Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

AsInHowe posted:

It's not just that, every team has at least four jerseys, that are all just used whenever. NBA teams also now have four logos, with no true primary logo any more.

This is cool and the NHL should do it.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

DJExile posted:

lol if you think ads on jerseys aren't coming to every league sooner than later

They aren't. There's no money in it. The stadium naming rights market has cratered and the jersey ads market has exploded on the runway.

Manchester United is going to get more money from Chevrolet this year than the entire NBA is going to get from the various companies they signed with.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Not too long ago someone (Daly I think?) said that jersey ads would only bring in like $60 million total.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Replace the players' names with brands. "Gazprom has really rebounded this year after taking reduced minutes in 2016-17 and is on track for at least 40 goals once again!"

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

Jersey and ice ads are terrible and I hate them, but I'll live with it if the extra money means it costs less for me to buy a ticket.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:

Jersey and ice ads are terrible and I hate them, but I'll live with it if the extra money means it costs less for me to buy a ticket.

Haha, nope!

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:

I'll live with it if the extra money means it costs less for me to buy a ticket.

that's adorable

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:

Jersey and ice ads are terrible and I hate them, but I'll live with it if the extra money means it costs less for me to buy a ticket.

If you think the owners are going to do anything but pocket the extra money I don't know what to tell ya.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
Ticket prices will never ever go down for popular teams until they reach the point where the tickets aren't being sold and even at that point the owners will probably blame it on something else and do whatever they can to not lower prices.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:

Jersey and ice ads are terrible and I hate them, but I'll live with it if the extra money means it costs less for me to buy a ticket.

lol

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Even if they did lower prices with the ads, at just $2mil per team that's less than $4 a game.

But also they would never do that.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:

Jersey and ice ads are terrible and I hate them, but I'll live with it if the extra money means it costs less for me to buy a ticket.

hahahah ha ... haha

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
I really don't get North America's fear of ads on jerseys. Soccer shirts do it and people buy millions of them and love them just fine. We'll put racist caricatures on our shirts but god help you if you put a Jiffy Lube logo on there, that's crossing a line.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
i don't visually mind ads on jerseys but i don't support the continued encroachment of advertising into things that don't already contain it and i think it's perfectly understandable when people have come to live with it where it's already been for however long, but don't want it to expand.

also i think that you're probably for the most part talking to people who don't like the racist caricatures and think that they should go away

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

If team owners are worried about their income, then maybe they should run their business like a business instead of a giant circlejerk with all their best buds, randomly flailing around and hoping it results in positive income. Then begging for handouts when it doesn't happen.

It shouldn't be THAT hard, they've got a captive audience that most businesses would kill for.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


One of the few things the NFL does right from an ownership perspective is profit sharing among the teams*. I don't know why the NHL doesn't do that apart from the Leafs lording over they're the only profitable one.

*Cowboys not withstanding, they opted out, which means they keep all their related profits but get nothing from the pool.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

While not as robust as the NFL, the NHL has had revenue sharing since 2005.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012



Yeah lets do this

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


ThinkTank posted:

While not as robust as the NFL, the NHL has had revenue sharing since 2005.

Fair enough.

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
I think it was one of the New York/Metro teams that did it but some team's broadcast sublimated ads onto the glass on the and it was terrible. I don't want ads on jerseys but at least they wouldn't distract from the game since it's just another moving piece on something you're already watching.

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
Just because there's poo poo smeared almost everywhere already doesn't mean that it's okay to smear some more in places that have been kept clean it.

Jovial Cow
Sep 7, 2006

inherently good

Schremp Howard posted:

I think it was one of the New York/Metro teams that did it but some team's broadcast sublimated ads onto the glass on the and it was terrible. I don't want ads on jerseys but at least they wouldn't distract from the game since it's just another moving piece on something you're already watching.

Yeah it was all MSG broadcasts so the Rags/Devils/Isles all had it. Wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres did too.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
i didn't find the fake glass ads that distracting but again, just because you eventually get used to something doesn't mean it isn't bad in the first place

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

ThinkTank posted:

While not as robust as the NFL, the NHL has had revenue sharing since 2005.

If I recall the revenue sharing is really lovely probably because only a handful of teams make a lot of money and they weren't happy about it. I think the PA really wanted more revenue sharing but the owners shot it down

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

iospace posted:

One of the few things the NFL does right from an ownership perspective is profit sharing among the teams*. I don't know why the NHL doesn't do that apart from the Leafs lording over they're the only profitable one.

*Cowboys not withstanding, they opted out, which means they keep all their related profits but get nothing from the pool.

The Cowboys only opted out of the merchandise sharing agreement. They happily share the far more enormous TV money pie with the other 31 teams.

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

Schremp Howard posted:

I think it was one of the New York/Metro teams that did it but some team's broadcast sublimated ads onto the glass on the and it was terrible. I don't want ads on jerseys but at least they wouldn't distract from the game since it's just another moving piece on something you're already watching.

Some other local US stations do that too, and yeah it looks pretty dumb but I can live with it.

The superimposed board ads in the World Cup, though; now those were bad and I want none of that in the NHL.



Zat fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jul 19, 2017

Mage_Boy
Dec 18, 2003

This hotdog is about as real as your story Steve Simmons




Schremp Howard posted:

I think it was one of the New York/Metro teams that did it but some team's broadcast sublimated ads onto the glass on the and it was terrible. I don't want ads on jerseys but at least they wouldn't distract from the game since it's just another moving piece on something you're already watching.

This is something that makes me nervous now that Root is AT&T Sportsnet. They already don't understand proper placement of the score in baseball, so I'm expecting them to gently caress up the hockey broadcast as well.

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY

hifi posted:



Yeah lets do this

wow those are the worst things ever

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Mage_Boy posted:

This is something that makes me nervous now that Root is AT&T Sportsnet. They already don't understand proper placement of the score in baseball, so I'm expecting them to gently caress up the hockey broadcast as well.

yeah but at least steigerwald's gone now so there's a lot of leeway for loving up before it outweighs that

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
You can put as many soccer style ads on the jerseys as you want if you broadcast the entire game without commercials. Until then, get lost with how it's "just the same"

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


ElwoodCuse posted:

You can put as many soccer style ads on the jerseys as you want if you broadcast the entire game without commercials. Until then, get lost with how it's "just the same"

Problem is, hockey, admittedly, is a game that needs commercial breaks. Unless you want 20 minutes of increasingly lovely ice without them scraping off the snow.

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

iospace posted:

Problem is, hockey, admittedly, is a game that needs commercial breaks. Unless you want 20 minutes of increasingly lovely ice without them scraping off the snow.

When the play is in the other end of the ice, they should have the ice crew sprint out and scrape the ice on their side and then sprint off real quick. It would add a new dimension to the game.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

iospace posted:

Problem is, hockey, admittedly, is a game that needs commercial breaks. Unless you want 20 minutes of increasingly lovely ice without them scraping off the snow.

They could probably get away with doing it every 10 minutes instead of every 5 but ad revenue and all that.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Ginette Reno posted:

They could probably get away with doing it every 10 minutes instead of every 5 but ad revenue and all that.

Eh, true. Three tv breaks a period isn't bad though, compared to the NFL anyway.

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

They could probably get away with doing it every 10 minutes instead of every 5 but ad revenue and all that.

Or 2 times a period like IIHF and the Euro leagues I watch do. The breaks are also 90 actually 70 seconds instead of 2 minutes, at least in IIHF tournaments.

But yeah, there's never going to be fewer ads and this is bearable (and miles better than other NA sports anyway)

Zat fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jul 19, 2017

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."
I'm sure the number of commercial breaks are baked into the various national and local TV deals so I wouldn't expect anything to change there until at least 2021.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

NHL teams are businesses, not public services. They aren't going to make changes that give up money.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Aphrodite posted:

NHL teams are businesses, not public services. They aren't going to make changes that give up money.

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyuuuuuup

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I don't expect them to give up money, but it would be nice if they could have a little bit of foresight and come up with a plan to improve the league in the long term.

Like how about they push for 10 years with no lockouts?

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