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PneumonicBook posted:I'm a leftist who agrees with gun control but this rhetoric is loving insufferable fyi, and will never lead to any worthwhile discussion in this country. People in this country being nuts doesn't make pathological weapon collecting sane
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Owning guns as a hobby is fine but considering how poor many peoples' gun safety is, collecting a bunch of stuff that your young children can use to kill you or themselves is not always the best idea
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Jul 19, 2017 21:22
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:He's not wrong. He is explicitly wrong in every way and it demeans both people with mental illness and people with harmless collection hobbies. You can call it "obessive" or "annoying" or "cloying," depending on the collection, but it is not a mental illness, HTH
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Jul 19, 2017 21:22
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enraged_camel posted:I have yet to meet any gun owner who didn't have secret (or not so secret) fantasies of getting into an armed confrontation with the federal government. I can say that for my maternal grandfather and I'd say... at least one of my uncles, probably both, because they just don't give a poo poo. Now the cousins on that side...
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Jul 19, 2017 21:22
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PneumonicBook posted:I'm a leftist who agrees with gun control but this rhetoric is loving insufferable fyi, and will never lead to any worthwhile discussion in this country. yeah cause your country is loving broken, doesn't make the truth any less true
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Jul 19, 2017 21:22
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Bicyclops posted:Like I literally have OCD and have had to work extremely hard not become a hoarder. It's not the same as your friend's guitar collection (especially since guitars all have different sounds and feels) or your friend who plays a trading card game. Don't call hobbies mental illness just because you don't understand them. I said closer to. A hobby usually involves the application of whatever thing you're collecting in some form. Plenty of collectors just keep these objects in a sealed off environment and don't actually do anything with them except bask in whatever emotional satisfaction material possession brings them. I'm completely aware, as a person who unfortunately currently lives with hoarders, that there is a difference in how collecting affects one's function vs hoarding.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:23
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Shooting is a hobby. Buying things isn't. Reading is a hobby, hoarding dead trees is not.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:23
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I don't have a problem with people collecting guns; I have a problem with people stockpiling guns. There's about an inch of daylight between the two, but it's significant.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:23
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Bicyclops posted:Don't post poo poo like this, tia Add "guns" into the sentence and it's perfectly accurate.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:23
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Casey Finnigan posted:Owning guns as a hobby is fine but considering how poor many peoples' gun safety is, collecting a bunch of stuff that your young children can use to kill you or themselves is not always the best idea see this is the hosed up part, collecting guns is fine but if i collect pain meds and other prescription opiates as part of my deep interest in the history of pharmaceuticals suddenly i'm the bad guy and my nephews are banned from my house
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Jul 19, 2017 21:24
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There Bias Two posted:I said closer to. Maybe just don't use the term at all. I don't care if they're putting stuff under museum glass to the detriment of their budget, maladaptive obsessive behavior has a term: "maladaptive obsessive behavior."
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Jul 19, 2017 21:25
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Nevvy Z posted:Shooting is a hobby. Buying things isn't. Reading is a hobby, hoarding dead trees is not. Tell that to my ex.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:25
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Lemming posted:People in this country being nuts doesn't make pathological weapon collecting sane I never said or defended 'pathological gun collecting', I was referencing the millions of people that have a handful of guns. There is a clear difference between a guy with an over and under for trap shooting, a dedicated turkey shotgun, a .22 for small game and a 308 for larger animals and a dude with an arsenal of 20 ARs.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:26
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I just bought 3 more aduinos because I needed a trinket and if I'm buying one I might as well buy both kinds and if I'm buying from adafruit I might as well get the circuit playground express and let me explain how these are different from the mega and two unos I already have. Buying (or wishing you could buy for expensive hobbies) a bunch of something that seem the same but are actually totally different you see isn't some gun specific thing and is true across enthusiasts on pretty much every thing that has ever existed.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:26
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Casey Finnigan posted:Owning guns as a hobby is fine but considering how poor many peoples' gun safety is, collecting a bunch of stuff that your young children can use to kill you or themselves is not always the best idea Nut litmus test: do you have aspirations of teaching your ten year old how to handle a MP5.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:27
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I just bought 3 more aduinos because I needed a trinket and if I'm buying one I might as well buy both kinds and if I'm buying from adafruit I might as well get the circuit playground express and let me explain how these are different from the mega and two unos I already have. Excuse me sir guns kill people though.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:27
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Nevvy Z posted:Shooting is a hobby. Buying things isn't. Reading is a hobby, hoarding dead trees is not. It's gonna be a cold winter, bro.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:28
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Blitz7x posted:I work in the corporate office of an oil company in an affluent part of a large city in Texas. A few months ago 6 F-150s in the company parking lot were broken into at once, resulting in 7 guns being stolen. Texas. its weird when people in cities do this but this is normal for people living in a rural area. My family members always had rifles and shotguns in the back of their trucks. You drive out to the farm, check the water to make sure the pump is working, make sure they haven't busted the fence and are eating the wheat next field over, then spend 30 minutes at the pond near by hunting dove/deer/turkey/whatever the gently caress is in season. Also its normal for rural people to have a multiple guns. A combination of .22/shotgun/lever action rifle behind the truck seat, few shotguns at home, an older revolver you inherited, and a few hunting shotguns in different gauges at home isn't uncommon. Also gun design hasn't had any design changes since the early 1900s so old guns that you inherit are perfectly fine for most hunting applications. As such gun collections just tend to accumulate as they get inherited and passed down generations.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:28
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CoasterMaster posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/887755646845816833 they just want the free kfc, sprite and coke
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Jul 19, 2017 21:28
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I just bought 3 more aduinos because I needed a trinket and if I'm buying one I might as well buy both kinds and if I'm buying from adafruit I might as well get the circuit playground express and let me explain how these are different from the mega and two unos I already have. Going to point out that this conversation was started by a race-baiting NRA commercial. Collectors are buying guns to have them, the issue is the people buying them because they think hordes of black people are trying to kill whites.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:29
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PneumonicBook posted:Excuse me sir guns kill people though. Sure, but it doesn't mean "enthusiasts keep on buying them when they already have one!!" is some mystery no normie could ever understand.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:29
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TBH I'd feel safer living with someone who collected a ton of guns with absolutely no intention of ever using one, sealed up in a closet somewhere, than living with someone who leaves baseball bats around the house with the intention of using them in self-defense in the event of a break-in.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:29
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? I like rock climbing and running races - other than gym expenses, race fees, and replacing old shoes, I'm not collecting poo poo for my hobby.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:29
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DreamShipWrecked posted:If someone has a M249 "just in case" then there are problems.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:30
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Nevvy Z posted:Shooting is a hobby. Buying things isn't. Reading is a hobby, hoarding dead trees is not. Tell that to people who do extreme couponing.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:30
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AnoHito posted:It's really funny since most people itt probably have like a hundred games on steam that they haven't even played and probably never will. Which don't take up space, need maintaining, or risk killing someone if stolen. Plus, when you buy a gun you generally don't get 10 other guns free in a bundle. And Steam games generally cost $1-$20 rather than hundreds.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:31
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botany posted:"shooting guns" being a hobby is pretty loving ridiculous to most normal people, hth As a hobby, it's pretty normal? It's no weirder than 4 wheeling or cross country skiiing or HAM radio or whatever. I've shot lots of guns, it's pretty fun. The problems with guns are the things about it outside of it being a hobby.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:31
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cochise posted:Don't judge. Some weird people love to have the ability to mow down dozens at a time. Personally I think that "preschoolers" should be the new unit of ammo capacity.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:32
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boner confessor posted:see this is the hosed up part, collecting guns is fine but if i collect pain meds and other prescription opiates as part of my deep interest in the history of pharmaceuticals suddenly i'm the bad guy and my nephews are banned from my house Man, me too. I'm not a cocaine addict, I just like the way it smells! 
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Jul 19, 2017 21:32
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boner confessor posted:people definitely spend way too much time online to the point that in some cases people get irl and online social norms confused (remember the alt right idiot who got bounced from a protest for wanting to make his memes a central focus) and there will be some kind of backlash against this in the next generation as it becomes cool for teens to go without smartphones loving lmao are you still on about the smartphones, old man? 
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Jul 19, 2017 21:32
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botany posted:yeah cause your country is loving broken, doesn't make the truth any less true To affect change you need to work within the accepted framework. The far lefts 'ban them all forever' is a non starter. There are legitimate effective ways the country could start handling it's gun problem but when both sides are too busy screaming at each other like it's Facebook it will never happen. I suppose now with how partisan all politics are we've probably lost that chance, nationally at least. Local laws can only do so much when you've got red states sitting next to blue states.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:33
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boner confessor posted:see this is the hosed up part, collecting guns is fine but if i collect pain meds and other prescription opiates as part of my deep interest in the history of pharmaceuticals suddenly i'm the bad guy and my nephews are banned from my house Yeah, I collect anti-personnel mines and like to practice setting them up to create maximum injury and setting them off on weekends and suddenly I'm the weirdo. I mean I only keep a couple of them in my house at any given time, its not like I'm hoarding them, it's just a hobby. (not really)
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Jul 19, 2017 21:34
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I realize that you want to be mad at the weirdos who knock over children to complete their Amiibo collections or who spent 1000s of dollars on pointless hobbyist equipment like they're Niles Crane in that episode where he goes camping, but getting stuff, cataloging stuff for display, and keeping track of it is, indeed, a hobby. I realize I have an OCD lizard brain here, but I think periodically organizing the seaglass I have collected definitely falls in the hobby category (I find it on my own, but it would even if I were buying it).
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Jul 19, 2017 21:34
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Going to point out that this conversation was started by a race-baiting NRA commercial. Collectors are buying guns to have them, the issue is the people buying them because they think hordes of black people are trying to kill whites. Nah the issue is that people aren't buying them, so the NRA has to stoke those fears.
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Malachi Constant posted:Yeah, I collect anti-personnel mines and like to practice setting them up to create maximum injury and setting them off on weekends and suddenly I'm the weirdo. I mean I only keep a couple of them in my house at any given time, its not like I'm hoarding them, it's just a hobby. Somewhere a suit grunts and jots down a line in his file marked D&D.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:35
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BarbarianElephant posted:Plus, when you buy a gun you generally don't get 10 other guns free in a bundle. You sure about that one?
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ReidRansom posted:Nah the issue is that people aren't buying them, so the NRA has to stoke those fears. My point is that a person who is collecting them is going to have a consistent number of purchases. It's the preppers that are going to be enticed to buy more guns by race-baiting commercials.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:36
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DreamShipWrecked posted:My point is that a person who is collecting them is going to have a consistent number of purchases. It's the preppers that are going to be enticed to buy more guns by race-baiting commercials. and how do you know magic the gathering cards aren't also sold under the premise that they will be useful to confuse the dusky hordes who appear on your doorstep when rahowa comes, hm?
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Jul 19, 2017 21:37
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https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/887769366649090048
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Why would people keep buying guns!" is such a weird question. Do you people not have hobbies or interests? Take the concept of what a gun is out of it and name a thing you like to do. Aren't you always either buying new stuff for the hobby or wishing you could? Buying anime figurines is a tiny hobby not 10 million people and also the primary purpose of owning a pistol or AR15 is killing people. Collecting anime figurines are just killing yourself, and your soul.
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