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Zaphod42 posted:Not to discount others' experiences, but I've also had no problems with war thunder and I have had issues with other games, so that's interesting. Playing War Thunder is fine for me, and even my other delicate friend, but the menus really gently caress me up. It's all the looking around. Those things are like SKYSCRAPERS. All I want is a UI scale so I don't need to break my neck to find the Play button at the top 
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AndrewP posted:Oh poo poo, Lone Echo Arena is released today? I've been conflating it's release day and Splatoon's in my head. See you guys online tonight. 15 more minutes, then I have to spend all day at work looking at my Rift. Gozinbulx posted:The 3 times I tired to get into a Echo Arena game I was either locked in the capsule thing and couldnt get out, or the one time I finally got out, I couldn't float around like everyone else in the lobby, and I didn't even know how to join a game. Never happened to me. Every time I was able to pull the lever to let myself out of the capsule. I've also always been able to use my wrist thrusters.
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kaffo posted:Playing War Thunder is fine for me, and even my other delicate friend, but the menus really gently caress me up. It's all the looking around. Those things are like SKYSCRAPERS. Yeah it really needs work. But like a year ago War Thunder had VR support and the menus were LITERALLY UNREADABLE and so you had to constantly take the headset on and off and it made it awful. Now they're workable, but yeah.... not comfortable by a longshot.
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Gozinbulx posted:The 3 times I tired to get into a Echo Arena game I was either locked in the capsule thing and couldnt get out, or the one time I finally got out, I couldn't float around like everyone else in the lobby, and I didn't even know how to join a game. When did you try it? I'm not sure they fixed the prison issue specifically, but I think they might have. If you played closer to July 7th than 17th, then you played before they fixed a lot of those bugs. It's free forever as long as you download it within the next three months, so I highly recommend downloading it and trying again. The devs are also really responsive in the discord with troubleshooting, I recommend dropping by https://discordapp.com/invite/bnZVvkw
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War thunder desperately needs a mouse recenter tool because it's so easy to lose track of the cursor and plant your plane in the ground in VR
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Bhodi posted:War thunder desperately needs a mouse recenter tool because it's so easy to lose track of the cursor and plant your plane in the ground in VR You're not meant to use the mouse in VR, get a joystick and use that.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:You're not meant to use the mouse in VR, get a joystick and use that. I like how the controller is fine in War Thunder for the airplanes, but unusable for the tanks because those relay on some weird mouselook. What did actual tanks use to aim the main gun?
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Zero VGS posted:What did actual tanks use to aim the main gun? Hand cranks I think.
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Zero VGS posted:I like how the controller is fine in War Thunder for the airplanes, but unusable for the tanks because those relay on some weird mouselook. Yeah I believe it was a pair of cranks, one for elevation and one for rotation of the turret. May have been foot pedals for the turret rotation. Much more time consuming a method of control, but remember that there were usually like 5 people in a tank. In a game like War Thunder where there isn't multicrew support, you need abstraction. Joysticks are fine for planes because that's kinda what they actually used to fly, conversely you'd never see any station on a tank controlled via joystick.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Yeah I believe it was a pair of cranks, one for elevation and one for rotation of the turret. May have been foot pedals for the turret rotation. Much more time consuming a method of control, but remember that there were usually like 5 people in a tank. In a game like War Thunder where there isn't multicrew support, you need abstraction. Joysticks are fine for planes because that's kinda what they actually used to fly, conversely you'd never see any station on a tank controlled via joystick. Sure but I mean, you can abstract hand-cranks to the two axis on the right analog joystick... as it stands right now they're using it to move a virtual mouse cursor around as a setpoint to where the gun will eventually point, which is goofy.
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Zero VGS posted:Sure but I mean, you can abstract hand-cranks to the two axis on the right analog joystick... as it stands right now they're using it to move a virtual mouse cursor around as a setpoint to where the gun will eventually point, which is goofy. I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by joystick.  Use one of these. Controllers are not good enough. And no, you can't abstract it to the two axis on the right stick, that's a terrible control scheme when literal point and shoot is much easier to use. That's the best abstraction possible: direct the pointer to your desired position and the little crewmen put the gun there for you. Joystick for flight, mouse and keyboard for tanks.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by joystick. I'm a massive tank nerd, and what you said earlier is entirely right. One horizontal and one vertical handcrank. Sometimes the vertical one was legit just taking a pin out of the actual gun, moving it with your shoulder, then locking it back into place. Later ones made at least the rotation electric, but always has a mechanical backup where you can engage the gears and hand crank it. But yeah, for VR in War Thunder tanks, it would be utterly amazing if they had multicrew, but it's basically impossible to model correctly with one dude. I actually started to make a VR tank game... But realised I was like the only tank nerd on the planet, never mind one with VR (here's a gif for funzies, I never got the cranks in though) 
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kaffo posted:I actually started to make a VR tank game... But realised I was like the only tank nerd on the planet, never mind one with VR You are so, so, so, so wrong. I've been dying for a tank sim even before I had VR, now I want IronWolf but tanks.
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Colonial Air Force posted:You are so, so, so, so wrong. Agreed, this would own.
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kaffo posted:I'm a massive tank nerd, and what you said earlier is entirely right. Hey, I too am a massive tank nerd. I just don't know how to make games. Tanks are like the submarines of the ground.
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Colonial Air Force posted:You are so, so, so, so wrong. Don't worry. I've just made the whole tank game concept sci-fi themed in a new game, so although it won't be historically accurate WWII poo poo, it'll be more like a hover tank with the same mechanics 
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Tank nerds will probably want to keep an eye on this game too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na530jGHOtI Panzerwehr 1949. Piloting mechs with tank controls using cranks and gears in an alternate World War 2. e: http://www.kukuru3.com/presskit/panzerwehr1949
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kaffo posted:I actually started to make a VR tank game... But realised I was like the only tank nerd on the planet, never mind one with VR You know FromSoft made a Kinect tank game right? If only that poo poo was in VR it would have been amazing instead of awful. Like okay yeah I think those were mechs but they were so small and squat they were more like tanks. Aaaaaand one of the VR games people talk about most is that Steam VR game where you just control a submarine and there's just cranks and dials and a periscope and its really hard and realistic and people rave about it??
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Zaphod42 posted:You know FromSoft made a Kinect tank game right? Ironwolf VR is not really hard or realistic, it's pretty arcadey all told, but I'm biased due to my heavy exposure to real time sub simming. The game you're thinking of by From was Steel Battalion Heavy Armour, the sequel to Steel Battalion, the game that famously launched with the massive mech cockpit controller, and the mechs were called Vertical Tanks or Veets.
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The Walrus posted:so apparently and surprisingly the 'vive and chill' aka the 25 dollar fans that blow on your forehead - is actually getting very good reviews. if you sweat a lot it seems like an essential purchase. I grabbed one and will post some impressions when I get it in august. oh my god yes Although I am loathe to pre-order hardware. I'll wait for your review.
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Zaphod42 posted:You know FromSoft made a Kinect tank game right? Yeah, shame the kinect was so badly used... It'd be great to see a AAA dev actually try out a sim like this on VR, but we'll never get it unless Gaijin or the WoT guys make something. Even then I bet it will be an EXPERIENCE HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Ironwolf VR is not really hard or realistic, it's pretty arcadey all told, but I'm biased due to my heavy exposure to real time sub simming. The game you're thinking of by From was Steel Battalion Heavy Armour, the sequel to Steel Battalion, the game that famously launched with the massive mech cockpit controller, and the mechs were called Vertical Tanks or Veets. I know them feels. Ironwolf is a good start, I like that they try to cater for everyone. But it looks like they've slowed to a hault on dev. I was super excited to start playing with the engine stuff. If someone could only copy out the system code from SubSim and make a nice VR game out of it...
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Zsinjeh posted:Tank nerds will probably want to keep an eye on this game too:   Yeah more games like this please. Where the hell is the VR Mechwarrior game???
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Kurr de la Cruz posted:
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Kurr de la Cruz posted:Yeah more games like this please. Where the hell is the VR Mechwarrior game??? Yeah we really need a Mechwarrior or Armored Core VR game like yesterday. Zsinjeh posted:Tank nerds will probably want to keep an eye on this game too: Yeah this looks wild
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IceOrb posted:I'll just try to keep my purchases inside Oculus Home for now then. You can use something other than the applications desktop mirror for a capture source for streaming. The Onward wiki has a pretty comprehensive writeup so I'm just going to quote this page from the wiki since it applies to all VR games/platforms. I recommend the Oculus Mirror over the other options for Oculus Rift users, and the OpenVR OBS plugin over the SteamVR Mirror. "The Onward Wiki posted:
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Rastor posted:Vox Machinae needs to post some goddamn updates. Jesus christ I can't agree more. That was one of the most brilliant demos... 2 years ago, what the heck has been happening since? The demo was updated to work with the cv1, so I still think its worth checking out for anyone interested in vr mech games. Even if it will only make you upset that theres no real info on the full game after all this time when you see you well it nailed it. EDIT: lmao, my mistake, the demo is almost 3 years old god drat. They better be just waiting to spring a fully formed game on the world out of nowhere or something. Tom Guycot fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Bought Lone Echo without even looking for reviews. After the awesome rollout of Echo Arena I want to support those dudes. Hopefully it's good!
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah we really need a Mechwarrior or Armored Core VR game like yesterday. Mechwarrior is currently being tortured in PGI's basement and you don't want them anywhere near you
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Lemming posted:Mechwarrior is currently being tortured in PGI's basement and you don't want them anywhere near you You can file the names off and make them legally distinct for all I care. The only mech game we have is RIGS and that ain't cutting the mustard.
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Yeah I don't necessarily mean mechwarrior as in battletech but some kind of mech simulator game. I want giant stompy death robots 
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Ironwolf VR is not really hard or realistic, it's pretty arcadey all told, but I'm biased due to my heavy exposure to real time sub simming. The game you're thinking of by From was Steel Battalion Heavy Armour, the sequel to Steel Battalion, the game that famously launched with the massive mech cockpit controller, and the mechs were called Vertical Tanks or Veets. A super serious WW2 era submarine game would be amazing in VR. And while we are spit balling here, I also want a game where I can play as a roman legionary. Let me stand in formation and raise my shield and let me and my fellow nerds form the Testudo formation to protect ourselves from barbarian arrows or something like that!
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I want a Pacific Rim game where you have to coordinate movements with a teammate and the better you coordinate the stronger you are I DEMAND THIS
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Zsinjeh posted:Tank nerds will probably want to keep an eye on this game too: haha oh my god that looks great. I'd want a subpac if I'm going to be firing cannons though.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:A super serious WW2 era submarine game would be amazing in VR. And while we are spit balling here, I also want a game where I can play as a roman legionary. Let me stand in formation and raise my shield and let me and my fellow nerds form the Testudo formation to protect ourselves from barbarian arrows or something like that! A realistic, WW2 submarine game similar to Bridge Crew would be suuuper dope. I'd pay large amounts of money for it.
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We're getting two: Atlantic Ghost and Wolfpack, plus an indeterminate Das Boot VR project.
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Is there any way to just completely disable the desktop mirror? No one else is watching me play, and I'd rather use that performance on supersampling than something I can't even see because my monitor's not even turned on when I am in VR most of the time.
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Lone Echo seems cool so far! This is the first VR game that makes me want to upgrade my 970 to something beefier though. Everything ran fine inside but once you get outside the framerate takes a hit and everything looks pretty muddy. Could do with some supersampling. I'm enjoying the gameplay itself a lot. Kind of relaxing tackling problems around a space station one at a time. A bit like my dayjob, just without all the zero g or robots.
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GutBomb posted:Is there any way to just completely disable the desktop mirror? No one else is watching me play, and I'd rather use that performance on supersampling than something I can't even see because my monitor's not even turned on when I am in VR most of the time. Not that I know of, but the overhead is super minimal, it just outputs the pre-distorted image, which is free since it needed to render that anyway.
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