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Agean90 posted:as compared to the American system where the everyday poo poo is extremely expensive and the majority of the country can't afford the bleeding edge poo poo There's definitely some situations where in America employer provided private insurance would cover a new treatment that passed regulatory approval but you wouldn't be able to get it in the NHS because it passed regulatory but not reimbursement.
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Truancy-Bot posted:1996: if the glove does not fit, you must acquit Jerked off in your cell? Go forth and be well.
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sexpig by night posted:Meanwhile tell me this is a shop...
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do u all work in coal mines or something i thought u just worked in post mines
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sexpig by night posted:Meanwhile I love how that poster would look at home around 1997
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Agean90 posted:as compared to the American system where the everyday poo poo is extremely expensive and the majority of the country can't afford the bleeding edge poo poo $200 loving dollars to check my toe and say "yep, it's broke, take some advil" That's with a fantastic insurance plan
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Nichael posted:name it in tribute to Donny, I don't loving care. You joke but, the Democrats should file a medicare for all bill called the Donald Trump Make Health Care Great Again Plan.
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Agean90 posted:as compared to the American system where the everyday poo poo is extremely expensive and the majority of the country can't afford the bleeding edge poo poo yeah that whole "look how awesome we are at X" is deflecting from the problems of access and cost. quality is fine the problem isn't that
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SmokaDustbowl posted:get juiced pro Gangtag
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 I did a thing posted:tell me this is a shop... sexpig by night posted:it's not, friend
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I did a thing posted:tell me this is a shop... it's not, friend
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Vladimir Putin posted:Well I've heard one of the negatives is that health care is another government department budget. It's like NASA or something. If government budget is doing good then everything is OK. If not then budget cuts are going to happen and that money isn't going to be there. Health care budget cuts aren't generally the kind of thing which results in people dying, even at the NHS' "poorest" you could still regularly see a doctor, get life-saving treatment if you needed it, and so forth. Right now where I live in Canada has a bit of a doctor shortage, which means if you go to the ER and you're NOT immediately dying, you could be in for a substantial wait to see a doctor, but it also won't cost you anything so it's worth the hours' wait should the situation warrant it compared to be several hundred or even thousands out of pocket. My wife and I also had a baby, who needed surgery at birth, and a 5-day hospital stay. Our cost was $70, and only because we upgraded to a better hospital room. The only "negative" to universal health care and it isn't really one, is that they generally forbid "shortcuts" for rich people, so if you need some "you're not dying now but your outlook is grim within several months", you can generally get this within a fairly short time frame in the U.S. if you cut them a 5- or 6-figure cheque, but in Canada you will have no choice but to wait for whenever they say they can do the surgery. This could be months down the track and you MAY die before that, although they certainly don't intentionally do this to save a few bucks, the pool of doctors who can do the required surgery are actively performing that exact surgery on others ahead of you in the waiting list, who don't have to pay a thing for it. There are also no real avenues for paying big bucks for experimental treatments, your options are limited to procedures which stood the test of time, and alternative medicines can be frowned upon if they go beyond acupuncture and pharmacy "natural" products, and you pretty much have no non-medical excuses for not vaccinating your kids or doing similar harmful things like faith healing. So for example there's a big kerfuffle in the U.K. right now because a dying baby isn't being allowed to be released from the hospital (too sick and baby will suffer if "disconnected"), against the parents' wishes who crowdfunded six figures and are trying to get their child into the U.S. for highly experimental treatment (Trump got involved and may apparently have granted the family PR status, which is meant to force the hospital to release the child).
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Gringostar posted:tax the rich That's like half the equation and looks like it came out of anger rather than as a real solution to disappearing jobs. How is taxing he rich and GMI going to bring back jobs? It only provides a safety net backstop to make sure you don't die. What about some real prosperity?
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Citizen Tayne posted:$200 loving dollars to check my toe and say "yep, it's broke, take some advil" if nothing else, obamacare 2.0 should eliminate deductibles
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Chokes McGee posted:you know who else has forums cancer
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Im glad OJ is being released into a world where a black man who guns down rich white people can finally be celebrated as deserved.
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Montasque posted:From this chart it looks like the NHS is REALLY bad at lung cancer I don't know any of the figures or anything, but keep in mind that preventative medicine also falls under the NHS' brief. They've been part of ongoing anti-smoking campaigns, some of which have been very successful, for as long as I can remember. Survival rates don't take decreased incidence due to prevention into account.
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Citizen Tayne posted:pro Gangtag forums prophet
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Vladimir Putin posted:So your advice is to do what exactly about low skill jobs that are disappearing? Worker protection and unions aren't going to do poo poo because they have no leverage. What else is there to do? Unions did plenty of poo poo when they weren't getting stomped in court, back when industrial automation was literally invented they were demanding things and getting them
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the votes theyd lose tho no one wants a clean repeal vote except him, they all need some amendment or another to make it less suicidal electorally
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Naerasa posted:Im glad OJ is being released into a world where a black man who guns down rich white people can finally be celebrated as deserved. Actually, he'd probably be a better candidate than anyone that the DNC can currently run
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radical meme posted:You joke but, the Democrats should file a medicare for all bill called the Donald Trump Make Health Care Great Again Plan. 
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deadgoon posted:is there a cure for forums cancer 
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Rushi posted:do u all work in coal mines or something i thought u just worked in post mines Nah I just hang out in the post mines. Totally not trying to organize a union nope.
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Citizen Tayne posted:pro Gangtag ppshh no wait the "kill everyone 💀💀💀💀" gif is p. pro
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you dummies look at healthcare as if the current people in power give a poo poo about you actually having decent access lmao
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Mr. Jive posted:Unions did plenty of poo poo when they weren't getting stomped in court, back when industrial automation was literally invented they were demanding things and getting them Unions can't do poo poo. Where's the leverage for negotiation when management can just shut down the factory and move it oversees?
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I did a thing posted:tell me this is a shop... no that's what sarah huckabee sanders actually looks like
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Serf posted:the idea that healthcare should have a profit motive is loving evil
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 da juice will soon be on the loose... commence old white conservative moral panic! 2k17, god bless
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mdemone posted:what I want to know is how in the year 2017 we suddenly seem to be unable to make a fighter plane that stays in the air and does not destroy itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
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Nichael posted:and if you're just judging by how much numerical support single payer has, it seems to be getting majority support now: love 2 live in country where the only thing keeping Democrats from supporting single payer is massive payoffs from a predatory insurance cabal that wrings profits from denying healthcare
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triple sulk posted:oj gonna leave prison and find out trump is prez eight years later: triple sulk posted:trump gonna leave prison and find out oj is prez
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