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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

deadgoon posted:

is there a cure for forums cancer

Apparently all I have to do is stop posting in YCS and LF

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Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Mr. Jive posted:

Unions did plenty of poo poo when they weren't getting stomped in court, back when industrial automation was literally invented they were demanding things and getting them

capital is no longer restricted by national borders or local laws/demands and can move freely while you cannot. the power of labor, even if we had effective unions, is extremely diminished

which is why capital should be usurped

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Apparently all I have to do is stop posting in YCS and LF

PONYTA

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Intel&Sebastian posted:

love 2 live in country where the only thing keeping Democrats from supporting single payer is massive payoffs from a predatory insurance cabal that wrings profits from denying healthcare

:yeah:

i'm proud to be an american
where at least i know i'm free

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

The best Trump thread title imo has always been: A Scammer Bigly

Please Eat A Vegetable
Jun 26, 2002
Lord of Primate Booty

Mr. Sharps posted:

TRUMP: So at the dinner, at the dinner they have me seated next to Brulesconi.

HABERMAN: Berlus— continue.

TRUMP: [garbled] Thank you. O.K. His assistant walks by the table. Wonderful lady. And she has the most beautiful necklace on. I thought maybe it was, you know, one of Ivanka's. It looked like something she would make. So I go to pull her aside and tell her this and he's already there. You know? He's already there.

HABERMAN: Berlusconi.

TRUMP: Right. His hands— He's got his hands all over her, you know? And I was like, who does that? Who does that here in this room with all these people? So you look at Italy's economy. You look at that and you look at this guy and [garbled] you know? It makes sense.


From pages ago, but just L O goddamned L.

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Nuclearmonkee posted:

capital is no longer tied to location and the power of labor, even if we had effective unions, is extremely diminished

which is why capital should be usurped

Exactly. The only way to stop it is to pass sweeping legislation to stop it from happening. That has its own problems one of which is that it will never happen.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

Serf posted:

the idea that healthcare should have a profit motive is loving evil

It's almost as if any attempt to prevent someone from getting sick in a manner you could charge them to treat would not be in the best interest of the shareholders

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

Nuclearmonkee posted:

capital is no longer restricted by national borders or local laws/demands and can move freely while you cannot. the power of labor, even if we had effective unions, is extremely diminished

which is why capital should be usurped

:yeah:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I wonder if Melania is still banging that secret service guy.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
people realize the MAGAnomics thing is an appeal to his retard base that thinks Reaganomics is cool and good, right?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Gravy Jones posted:

It's almost as if any attempt to prevent someone from getting sick in a manner you could charge them to treat would not be in the best interest of the shareholders

And as we all know anything that isn't in the best interest of the holy shareholders and the blessed hand of the free market is the devil communism and his demon socialism.

Serf
May 5, 2011


the constant quest for market-based solutions by neoliberal morons is horrific when you see it being applied to the basic things people need to survive. we seek ways to profit off of people's need to eat, drink, and not die and that's massively hosed up

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Squizzle posted:

the votes theyd lose tho

no one wants a clean repeal vote except him, they all need some amendment or another to make it less suicidal electorally

I thought all of their plans pushed everything out past 2020; so they can screw the entire nation and the average voter won't know a thing until January 1, 2021 rolls around and everyone gets their cancellation/don't bother reapplying notice.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Nichael posted:

:yeah:

i'm proud to be an american
where at least i know i'm free

And I won't forget the men who died
because they could not pay a fee

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

radical meme posted:

The issue about "Skills" is also problematic because Hillary actually went with the whole job training, learning new skills message in coal country and the rust belt and those were the people who hosed her the hardest. They choose to believe a con man was actually going to bring their jobs back; telling them the truth and trying to give them real hope for the future was absolutely useless.

Wierd how they didn't believe the "retraining" thing when that's what they were promised with NAFTA and that never materialized.

Rushi
Jun 2, 2003

by Smythe
in 3rd or 4th grade we watched the ending verdict of the oj simpson trial in class

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Citizen Tayne posted:

I wonder if Melania is still banging that secret service guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f28klp1qQGI

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Serf posted:

the constant quest for market-based solutions by neoliberal morons is horrific when you see it being applied to the basic things people need to survive. we seek ways to profit off of people's need to eat, drink, and not die and that's massively hosed up

Then again command economies also resulted in millions of deaths from hunger and somehow AK-47's for $10.00 in every 3rd world country.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

MAGANOMINCS

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Thoguh posted:

Wierd how they didn't believe the "retraining" thing when that's what they were promised with NAFTA and that never materialized.

it's a smokescreen you use to turn the dynamic around from "global race to the bottom so someone else gets richer while your town is gutted and sinks into poverty" into "look down your nose at the ignorant poor who is too stupid to bootstrap themselves and retrain after they went obsolete"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



huh, Chester from Linkin Park hung himself today

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Anyone considered a political party called the Second, Fifth and Eighth Party? Platform's right in the name, seems like guns and getting hosed up would be a cross-demographic slam-dunk.

"Share a fifth, share an eighth, exercise your second!"
"When they go low, we get high! Actually, we get high regardless."

The policies would essentially be socialism couched in terms of getting our money's worth for our tax dollars, outreach would be gun clubs and town halls.

If someone's already brought this up in any of the 2000 pages I didn't read, sorry, thread is enormous and fast-moving.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Vladimir Putin posted:

Then again command economies also resulted in millions of deaths from hunger and somehow AK-47's for $10.00 in every 3rd world country.

welp looks like everythings hosed forever and we shouldn't do anything huh

post-username combo too

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
did they announce anything or is the big news two huge novelty placards

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
manganomics

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Tubgoat posted:

Anyone considered a political party called the Second, Fifth and Eighth Party? Platform's right in the name, seems like guns and getting hosed up would be a cross-demographic slam-dunk.

"Share a fifth, share an eighth, exercise your second!"
"When they go low, we get high! Actually, we get high regardless."

The policies would essentially be socialism couched in terms of getting our money's worth for our tax dollars, outreach would be gun clubs and town halls.

If someone's already brought this up in any of the 2000 pages I didn't read, sorry, thread is enormous and fast-moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMwc1c0HRQ

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Vladimir Putin posted:

Then again command economies also resulted in millions of deaths from hunger and somehow AK-47's for $10.00 in every 3rd world country.

hey idiot there are things besides authoritarian communism and unfettered global capitalism

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Reality Winner posted:

did they announce anything or is the big news two huge novelty placards

He won the presidency this way.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Please Eat A Vegetable posted:

From pages ago, but just L O goddamned L.


Man I was just trying to pull this subordinate lady over to check out her necklace (wink wink) and fuckin' Berlusconi is already feelin her up! Fuckin' rear end in a top hat! Just goes to show when you elect sexual predators as heads of state it will sink your economy. Anyways, who am I again?



are you loving kidding me

someone tell me that's faked

what the gently caress





:psyduck:

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

still lollin that the prime minister of japan's wife pretended she didn't speak english to avoid talking to trump

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Nuclearmonkee posted:

it's a smokescreen you use to turn the dynamic around from "global race to the bottom so someone else gets richer while your town is gutted and sinks into poverty" into "look down your nose at the ignorant poor who is too stupid to bootstrap themselves and retrain after they went obsolete"

So what's the solution to bring those jobs back?

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
I hear ya Cletus McMaga but actually the reason your entire extended family either overdosed or died from tooth infections is because you don't have Cisco Certification

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Vladimir Putin posted:

There's definitely some situations where in America employer provided private insurance would cover a new treatment that passed regulatory approval but you wouldn't be able to get it in the NHS because it passed regulatory but not reimbursement.

i too will come up with outlier situations to refute the entire single payer system/concept

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

triple sulk posted:

trump gonna leave prison and find out oj is prez

Cool and good!

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

cops make the worst customers

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
probate me squizzle u cuckle fuckle squizzle

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

$10 AK-47s liberated Mozambique.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

radical meme posted:

I thought all of their plans pushed everything out past 2020; so they can screw the entire nation and the average voter won't know a thing until January 1, 2021 rolls around and everyone gets their cancellation/don't bother reapplying notice.

the effects of a clean repeal - especially the version mcconnell brought forward - would have an effect a lot sooner than that. people would be immediately aware of the effects before the midterms even, and there's a good chance it just completely obliterates health care altogether not long after

unless they changed something anyways

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Vladimir Putin posted:

There's definitely some situations where in America employer provided private insurance would cover a new treatment that passed regulatory approval but you wouldn't be able to get it in the NHS because it passed regulatory but not reimbursement.

Yeah but this is also the case here, there's tons of valid treatments that aren't covered by my insurance

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