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Pendent posted:So a relic blade that deals 2 damage instead of d3 Characters can't take relic blades, though
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TheChirurgeon posted:Characters can't take relic blades, though And relic blades are 21 points, where this has the possibility of being...free?
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I shared a bed with Mr. Cannon one cold DC summer night, and woke up mostly intact. Never told my wife about it, though... Master of the Slow Poke and a sex cannon sharing a bed. This story writes itself.
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LingcodKilla posted:Master of the Slow Poke and a sex cannon sharing a bed. Do I smell a new piece of fan fiction for the Bad Cast?
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I'm more of an idea man than a script writer.
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Uroboros posted:The best part of the Iron Cage is Guilliman had to save them, guy sure has to clean up a lot of other people's gently caress-ups. Its less that he "has to" and more that GW's writers bend over backwards to give the big Mary Sue the chance to save the day at every possible opportunity.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Characters can't take relic blades, though My captain has a relic blade. Anyway, kinda disappointed by this. It basically gives vehicles PotMS. But the stuff I'd want to be firing on the move has that already. Land raiders and storm ravens, my sicaran venator. The dreadnoughts I use are BS 2+ so the penalty for firing heavy weapons doesn't matter much, I'm not going to spend CP to let my contemptor hit with 5 assault cannon shots instead of 4.. My predators stay put the whole game with their long ranged weapons, I guess it could let them try to take an objective late game without giving up firepower or avoid someone trying to charge them. Could let me get a vindicator into range turn 1 maybe, or let a razorback fire a bit better while it's moving up. But it's a pretty meh stratagem, especially if you have to pay it every turn and can only do it for 1 vehicle a turn. It also makes a big deal of letting vehicles fire assault guns on the move without penalty. So... the meltaguns on some of the bigger dreads? That's the only vehicle assault weapons in the SM inventory other than heavy flamers. I guess they're trying to push some assault stuff on the new dread. Warlord trait to give more attacks, we'll see how that goes. I already use the trait that gives an extra attack when charging. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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It replaces a Power Axe. So anything that can take a power axe that can't take a relic blade can just use the Relic version instead. It's a pretty nice upgrade, and it can go on units that don't have access to Relic Blades. And moving and shooting without a penalty can be really important on certain things, like quad-las Predators and the like. It can easily be worth the cost to activate the stratagem to move and hit on 3+ instead of 4+.
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WhiteWolf123 posted:It replaces a Power Axe. So anything that can take a power axe that can't take a relic blade can just use the Relic version instead. It's a pretty nice upgrade, and it can go on units that don't have access to Relic Blades. Yes, I addressed that in my post. I said my predators stay still most games but I could see having a lascannon predator on the move being useful sometimes. If it's 1 CP maybe. If it costs 2 I can just use my reroll stratagem on an important lascannon shot. Predators are the only real thing I see it being useful for for me, the other stuff like razorbacks doesn't make enough of a difference for me to want to spend CP on them. But maybe those new dreads will have enough firepower to make it worthwhile. And I'm not sure what I'd give the axe that can't take a relic blade anyway. My assault marines have an eviscerator, my vanguard sergeant can take a relic blade, captain can take a relic blade. My chaplain can't take power axes. So I can either use it to give the vanguard a second relic blade essentially, or give one to a tac squad sergeant or my techmarine. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I don't think it's at a points premium over a regular power axe, though. you dummy i gave a heads-up in the thread and everything
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Painted up the Primaris Ancient today: I was quite pleased to get the full "Crimson Fists" in on the banner, even in my shaky as gently caress brush-writing.
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I didn't realize Feel No Pain-like abilities stack, so double-sixes to ignore for venerable Dreads is a pretty cool ability.
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Miruvor posted:I didn't realize Feel No Pain-like abilities stack, so double-sixes to ignore for venerable Dreads is a pretty cool ability. Yeah it's pretty decent for ven dreads. For most other stuff though it's not enough to make you survive longer, it'll just be a nice benefit when once in a while a marine survives a failed save vs a 1 damage attack. If a normal dreadnought gets hit by 3 weapons that do d6 each, it's still dead after a 6+. You have to have really good rolls and your opponent really poor damage rolls to make much of a difference. It's kinda a boring ability really, last edition it was nice because your characters and vehicles could also regain wounds each turn, instead of being Death Guard but half as effective and cheaper. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Converted some World Eater close combat Terminators. First conversions I've done in decades. Fairly pleased with them 
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LingcodKilla posted:Master of the Slow Poke and a sex cannon sharing a bed. Count as twin-linked?
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The Sex Cannon posted:"walla" Glad you caught it haha
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Really, the way I see it, a third to half of my points can't use chapter tactics because they're vehicles, and so the chapter tactics don't mean much to me. So if I'm playing anything competitive I'll just pick whatever chapter has a stratagem and warlord trait I prefer.
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chutche2 posted:Really, the way I see it, a third to half of my points can't use chapter tactics because they're vehicles, and so the chapter tactics don't mean much to me. So if I'm playing anything competitive I'll just pick whatever chapter has a stratagem and warlord trait I prefer. That seems pretty reductive. An army-wide bonus to infantry and bikes and dreads is pretty impactful - I wouldn't say it doesn't mean much just because vehicles don't get it. By the same token the warlord trait only affects one model and strategems will only get used a cupola times a battle. JoshTheStampede fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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JoshTheStampede posted:That seems pretty reductive. An army-wide bonus to infantry and bikes and dreads is pretty impactful - I wouldn't say it doesn't mean much just because vehicles don't get it. By the same token the warlord trait only affects one model and strategems will only get used a few times a battle. It is impactful, but it's not how I built my army. I have something like 7 tanks and a stormraven. I don't even own any bikes, and have two dreads. The main things I bring are tac marines, 5 terminators, and vehicles. Chapter tactics are very impactful to most people, I'm just saying they don't do much for me and I'll get more out of the stratagem of a chapter. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Serotonin posted:Converted some World Eater close combat Terminators. First conversions I've done in decades. Fairly pleased with them That's a very intense looking aerobics class.  And three more, and two more, and one more. Now take it to the left!
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How many people would care if I put 10 of my guard basic conscripts on square bases as I ran out of circle bases from building my inquisition agents on the circle bases?
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Agentdark posted:How many people would care if I put 10 of my guard basic conscripts on square bases as I ran out of circle bases from building my inquisition agents on the circle bases? Enough that id just buy some bases for cheap. The entire game is determined by measuring by base.
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Serotonin posted:Converted some World Eater close combat Terminators. First conversions I've done in decades. Fairly pleased with them These are some amazing, angry boys.
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Speaking of conversions here are my shining spears! New dire avenger bodies with old metal dire avenger heads, the laser lances were made in a few different ways by chopping up pulse lasers, bright lances, vehicle bits, a wraitlord sword handle and dire avenger scopes. Theres a warlock/farseer skyrunner on the left with a power glaive representing a singing spear and since the size/shape of the spears vary, I'm identifying my autarchs with different heads and a flag on their back so my opponents can tell where the str 8 hurt is coming from.
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Agentdark posted:How many people would care if I put 10 of my guard basic conscripts on square bases as I ran out of circle bases from building my inquisition agents on the circle bases? I just bought 100 bases for $10.50 shipped. Just buy the round bases.
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What's everyone's favorite snow for winter bases? I'm going for a snowy/rocky base with snow and cork sheet for my Space Wolves.
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Deified Data posted:What's everyone's favorite snow for winter bases? I'm going for a snowy/rocky base with snow and cork sheet for my Space Wolves. Mod podge and baking soda mixed into a slurry for me
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chutche2 posted:Mod podge and baking soda mixed into a slurry for me Do you happen to have any pics handy?
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Deified Data posted:What's everyone's favorite snow for winter bases? I'm going for a snowy/rocky base with snow and cork sheet for my Space Wolves. Woodland scenics mixed with water and PVC glue to make it look slushy. 
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Deified Data posted:What's everyone's favorite snow for winter bases? I'm going for a snowy/rocky base with snow and cork sheet for my Space Wolves. GW's stuff works well for me:  Probably not the cheapest though.
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Thanks guys, I'll post some pics with what I end up using.
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Woodland Scenics snow (its ground up polystyrene foam) and Woodland Scenics Realistic Water (or a gloss medium). Makes great looking non-degrading snow. More liquid for slush, less liquid for snow. 5 years ago, and wrong game. 
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Clearly the best way to make snow effects for basing is to grind up CFL bulbs.
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Some nice loving pictures on this page. Love that arctic blue Tyrannofex.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Enough that id just buy some bases for cheap. The entire game is determined by measuring by base. Thats fair, I was honestly just being lazy
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Deified Data posted:Do you happen to have any pics handy? I'll take some pictures of my Khador after work
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Zaphod42 posted:Its less that he "has to" and more that GW's writers bend over backwards to give the big Mary Sue the chance to save the day at every possible opportunity. I'm sorry that the character that is written as not being a glory seeking man-child is portrayed as more successful and level headed than his brothers, how unrealistic.
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Uroboros posted:I'm sorry that the character that is written as not being a glory seeking man-child is portrayed as more successful and level headed than his brothers, how unrealistic. Yeah, Gulliman is actually a very interesting character (and I don't even like Ultramarines much.) Reading Dark Imperium, and (from what I recall of the HH) he's basically the guy who has had power and authority thrust upon him, and he feels duty-bound to do his best, even though, to be honest, he'd really rather be dead. . .
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