Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

morally adept posted:

in a better society the trans would run on time.

Haha yikes

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

RFC2324 posted:

I dunno. I personally think getting sexually involved with your kid is a big deal and a bad thing.

Yeah I walked into that one...

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib
poo poo happens, goons.

Transdad may want to move to someplace like Key West or SF where his trans-son can get sum loving and respect. If he really cared.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Transdad: if you want to have a relationship with your child at all, consider really sitting down and talking to them. Ask them
If they've considered all the options and alternatives. Talk to them about mental health, about their need for security and validation. Ask them how they feel about their body and their mind.

Like maybe your kid wants to reject typical gender roles and norms because they just want to be a swishy, effeminate person and hate football or jock culture or maybe they have real issues and think changing their gender will solve their problems and could use therapy or maybe they are totally nuts or maybe they really have thought all this out and have landed, healthily, on identifying as trans.

Maybe imagine it like your kid decided they wanted to join a kooky religion. Obviously they are facing persecution and humiliation and probably will end up doing stuff you don't approve of, but like for real don't spend any more time thinking about your child's gender or sexuality (or genitals!) than you have to. Worry about their personality, their work ethic, their ability to make friends, because there was a good chance your teenager was gonna dress retarded anyway, it's like what they are known for. Don't let the gender poo poo get in the way of being there for your child.

One day you will be old and making GBS threads yourself and your son/daughter will be the one either taking care of you or dumping your body in a dumpster, and that decision may very well come down to how you are handing this.

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

quote:

I was kind of a nerdy kid and didn't fit in well in grade school but I got along real well with this other nerdy kid. We were best friends up until grade 7 or 8 when he just poo poo his pants completely one day, just full on sitting in his desk diarrhea all over the place with 25 other kids in the classroom. Being a young maturing man that was struggling to fit in and a little bit self conscious who now had a best friend who poo poo his pants in class I decided the best thing to do was to completely cut off contact with him.

I think I spoke to him like three months afterwards when he asked me to give some video games I had borrowed back but after that we never spoke again. I went to a different high school thanks to a move so I never saw any of those people again and made a conscious effort to at least hid being a nerd and eventually opened up and grew out of a lot of the dumb crap I liked as a kid.The thing is, I always felt guilty about hanging the dude out to dry like that. I always thought if it had happened now I would've just made some light jokes about it and moved on, embarrassing poo poo happens to everyone.

I would still feel guilty except I got to the point where I was looking him up to apologize a couple of years ago, I was driving to my parents one day and saw him out walking a dog so I thought I should send him an email or something just saying I always felt guilty over that. The first red flag was on one of his photos on facebook there was a picture of a waifu anime pillow that was about the size of a regular human being. Being fairly alarmed at that I typed his name into google and then proceeded to recoil in horror, the man went to art school and now draws softcore erotic anime porn while presumably still living with his parents.

Truth be told, after that I abandoned the whole idea of apologizing to him and feel like I was right to cut off contact with him. I put a lot of work into getting to where I want to be in life while meanwhile this guy just became more of a weird reclusive anime nerd. We were both weird nerd kids but apparently because I didn't poo poo my pants I turned out normal, crazy world.

You didn't turn out normal. You were a poo poo person then and you are a poo poo person now. Maybe your friend wouldn't have turned into a creep if he had you to support him. And the fact that you wronged him then doesn't magically disappear because he draws anime now. You're obviously still insecure because you're afraid that apologizing to someone who owns an anime pillow would debase you.

Bust Rodd posted:

Transdad: if you want to have a relationship with your child at all, consider really sitting down and talking to them. Ask them
If they've considered all the options and alternatives. Talk to them about mental health, about their need for security and validation. Ask them how they feel about their body and their mind.

Like maybe your kid wants to reject typical gender roles and norms because they just want to be a swishy, effeminate person and hate football or jock culture or maybe they have real issues and think changing their gender will solve their problems and could use therapy or maybe they are totally nuts or maybe they really have thought all this out and have landed, healthily, on identifying as trans.

Maybe imagine it like your kid decided they wanted to join a kooky religion. Obviously they are facing persecution and humiliation and probably will end up doing stuff you don't approve of, but like for real don't spend any more time thinking about your child's gender or sexuality (or genitals!) than you have to. Worry about their personality, their work ethic, their ability to make friends, because there was a good chance your teenager was gonna dress retarded anyway, it's like what they are known for. Don't let the gender poo poo get in the way of being there for your child.

One day you will be old and making GBS threads yourself and your son/daughter will be the one either taking care of you or dumping your body in a dumpster, and that decision may very well come down to how you are handing this.

Nice post.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Doctor Malaver posted:

You didn't turn out normal. You were a poo poo person then and you are a poo poo person now. Maybe your friend wouldn't have turned into a creep if he had you to support him. And the fact that you wronged him then doesn't magically disappear because he draws anime now. You're obviously still insecure because you're afraid that apologizing to someone who owns an anime pillow would debase you.

No one just shits themself in class sorry dumbass. Dude disowned a loving disaster.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Doctor Malaver posted:

You didn't turn out normal. You were a poo poo person then and you are a poo poo person now. Maybe your friend wouldn't have turned into a creep if he had you to support him. And the fact that you wronged him then doesn't magically disappear because he draws anime now. You're obviously still insecure because you're afraid that apologizing to someone who owns an anime pillow would debase you.

Sorry about that time you poo poo yourself

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

Aesop Poprock posted:

Sorry about that time you poo poo yourself

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

Aesop Poprock posted:

Sorry about that time you poo poo yourself

At least your family had a warm meal that day

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Doctor Malaver posted:

At least your family had a warm meal that day

*slowly pulls a blanket over you while making shushing noises and backing away*

vortmax
Sep 24, 2008

In meteorology, vorticity often refers to a measurement of the spin of horizontally flowing air about a vertical axis.

Doctor Malaver posted:

At least your family had a warm meal that day
Show us your anime waifu pillow.

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

If you gamble on a fart, one day you will eventually lose. It is known.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Got a super long one for you tonight

quote:

I'm depressed.

Not because of personal stuff, or money, or some organic chemistry problem. All of those causes can be, at the very least, mitigated. I get blue--really blue--when it's something outside my ability to help.

I'm sure it happens to lots of people: a friend is messing up his or her life and you just have to watch it happen, a family member has fallen ill and the prognosis doesn't look good, etc. Those, though, are temporary, so we can take solace in the fact that one day, we'll recover.

I'm depressed because logic and reason are evaporating before my very eyes. Has it always been like this, and I've been asleep, or blind to it? So many people routinely employ logical fallacies as justifications and rationalizations for things they do, say, and believe. Too many people fail to see any viewpoint other than their own, flat out ruling all other ways of thinking invalid, often without giving them a moment's consideration. Too many people cannot be wrong or at fault. Ever.

It is a weight that I feel smothering my very soul. Why are so many people so unreasonable? Why do debates or discussions have to habitually be made into full-blown arguments? Why do so many people, when it's blatantly clear that they're wrong about something, either double down or dismiss you with an ad hominem jab (while getting the last word and "winning"? What happened?

I'm in therapy. The depression is really bad. My family doctor gave me pills--antidepressants--but the first ones he tried revealed that I'm evidently in the small percentage of people for whom whatever this medication was actually makes you more depressed. "You can't fix the world. Do the best you can to not think about it. Get a hobby or two. Find some people that don't behave this way and socialize with them once in a while. Not everybody is unreasonable."

This is true. Not everybody. Just too many people. It's only Wednesday and here's a sampling of bits from actual conversations I've had this week:

(an adult coworker with a master's degree) "All X have attribute Y."

"Why would you think that?"

"Because one X does, so they all do. Duh."

and

(to one of my employees, also an adult with a degree) "Okay, I'm having trouble understanding why you did X here. My instructions explicitly said to do Y. In fact, we had a conversation about this not even a week ago."

"Well everyone else does X and not Y. Also [different manager not in our department] said it was okay."

That last one kills me because this person must've stopped by a two-for-one sale on fallacies on the way to work. She whipped this gem out to explain why she wasn't wrong for doing specifically what I told her not to do. So really, it turned into a three-for-one deal--she was not only using arguments ad populum and ad vericundiam, but she was doing so while intentionally ignoring the fact that she hosed up big time.

When it's not a question of beliefs or preferences, and it's something to do with a problem, too many people are obsessed with escaping fault at any cost. In a work situation, I can at least understand this, because if you gently caress up, you might get the axe.

But in public? While socializing with acquaintances? While volunteering at a charity event? Namely, situations in which a fuckup costs you nothing even if you don't acknowledge that you hosed up or apologize? Why is nothing that lots of people gently caress up ever their fault?

I was parked at a convenience store grabbing some water one day when a truck backed into my car (he had just gotten done fueling and was backing up to turn around in the lot). I was in a marked space and everything. Dude flies out of the cab of his truck, red in the face, demanding to know why I was parked there, what I was gonna do to fix the damage, etc. Not his fault he backed into a parked car, see.

Another day recently, I was at a diner. A woman saddled up next to me at the bar because there were barely any seats left during the lunch rush and ordered a burg. "Everything on it, ma'am?" "Yes."

"WHY ARE THERE PICKLES ON THIS HAMBURGER I SAID NO PICKLES"

"I'm sorry, we can fix it for you immediately, I just didn't hear you say 'no pickles,' I guess."

"Oh I'm sorry miss, I really shouldn't take my frustration about my day out on you. I probably forgot to mention that I didn't want them. It's no big deal, I'll just take them off myself. Sorry again for yelling..."

...is the opposite of what she said.

Why? What is the point? First dude, I know you'd been drinking and your truck escaped without a scratch while my entire hood needed replaced to the tune of $600. What is wrong with saying "Oh gosh I didn't see you I'm so sorry let me grab my insurance information for you. We'll get this fixed up right away." What does that cost you? Pride? You should be proud that you owned up to your mistake. Time and effort? You expended more time and effort cussing me out for parking in a parking space than you would've if you'd just apologized. Or, since insurance companies tell you not to admit fault, you could've wordlessly handed me your insurance info. But no, you just can't be at fault no matter what.

Burg lady, I heard you place your order. So did four other patrons. You were very loud and your voice was grating. You absolutely did not place a special order, and, in fact, literally ordered "everything" on your burg. What is the cost of being wrong when placing an order for lunch? You don't get fired. You don't get hurt. You're not out a ton of money. You just end up with pickles. That's the level of risk here. "If this is my fault, I'll have to *gasp* move some toppings I don't prefer off the food before I eat it! gently caress THAT!"

She left without tipping. This was after she was brought a brand new burg, sans pickles, free of charge. So, it wasn't your fault in the end, you ended up with what you wanted, and it didn't cost you anything. And yet, you're still mad enough at her for the mistake you made that you're going to deny her even a pittance as gratuity? (after she left, the four other guys and I that heard the thing go down all had the same idea, so when she came back to bus the plate she found her biggest goddamn tip of the day)

As you can tell, this is something that's really bothering me. I can't help but obsess about it. It feels as if those things that make us human are slipping away from more and more people, slowly. Sympathy. Empathy. Consideration. Remorse. Humility. Patience. Optimism. Tolerance. Compassion. Modesty. Too many people exist solely for themselves, and for the sake of their own worlds. It's killing me. Slowly, but it's killing me.

I can't help but wonder what the little elements that make up the big picture are, or indeed what a clear view of the big picture would look like. It's not "kids these days" being selfish hooligans. It's not "decaying moral fiber," which is really just an oh-so-clever way of saying "people are doing things I don't want them to do waaaaah." It's something systemic. Across all faiths (or lack thereof), income brackets, heritages, ages, genders, it's the same thing. So many people are somehow not only equipped with a box set of logical fallacies but also a willingness to use them to prove their points with complete disregard for the fact that they're, well, fallacies.

And people either ignore the arguments, as there's no point in trying to argue with someone who is just going to find another erroneous reason to be Right, or--worse--legitimize them by accepting them. "Nobody has PROVEN that global warming is real, so it must not be. And if you disagree you're just a tree-hugger and I don't have time to argue with you." "Huh, I guess you're right. Nobody can prove it's real, so it's obviously not."

You know what doesn't make this degradation any easier? A continuing decline in the general level of integrative complexity in the individual. Thanks, Internet (don't worry, the irony of the fact that I'm using the Internet to communicate right now didn't escape me)! Don't like reading news articles portraying that thing you hate in a positive light? Don't worry, we know that, and we'll filter those out for you. Friend you never agree with keep telling you on social media to quit spreading urban legends and lies? There's a button that makes him or her go away. Soon, you're left with a meticulously-pruned garden consisting solely of things you agree with and that don't scare you or make you feel uncomfortable.

Then, you don't need sympathy or empathy or reason. You have no reason for humility, modesty, or consideration. Patience? Tolerance? What good are those? You're not actually interacting with people, you're just screaming about things you hate from behind your immaculate rose bushes. There's no reason to engage in logical discourse on any subject because there's nobody left to convince. Everyone remaining now agrees with you ("us"), and anyone who doesn't can either be ignored or blamed for something, but either way they're not relevant ("them").

I'm depressed. I will absolutely never give in and take the easy way out, though. That's probably the most selfish thing a person can do--denying your fellow human beings all the potential good you could've done if you hadn't been a coward (this is excepting extenuating circumstances like brain chemistry issues, mental illness, history of severe abuse).

It just feels so drat hopeless. But, hopeless as it is, I walk on. Volunteering to help my community, doing my best at work for my team and my company, and engaging in lots of hobbies to help keep my mind off it. I've even donned a facade of sorts--the happiest, cheeriest, most optimistic persona I can muster--to hide it. Not the healthiest thing a person can do, but I'm not about to let my abject sorrow permeate the air around me like a miasma, seeping into everyone else's lives.

Or, maybe, I should give in to the dark side and start turning their own weapons against them. End arguments with non sequiturs, divine causation from simple correlation, engage in circular arguments? Ad hominem works particularly well these days. So, why not join in?

After all, everybody else is doing it.

All I can say is that you seem to care way too much about how much logic and reason other people use in their day-to-day lives

So they're wrong and they don't care. You don't have to care either. Try to chill.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
:stare:

That is a clock wound too guddamn tightly, good lord

Chill, bro. Humans are humans. We make mistakes and use shortcuts, no big. It really seems like you're only sad because of you, not because of other people.

I hope you're not hauling all that baggage to work with you because I'm sure you must be a hit at the office if you do. Take some vacation and relax, man.

And no the world is not going to poo poo, people say "oh god this is the end the world is going to pot" without fail every day of every week of every month of every year and will continue to do so until the sun burns out.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007
I think it's just part of getting older that you realize how stupid and selfish people actually are.

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

I recommend smoking weed OP. Probably a lot of it.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
You sound autistic.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Sounds like you need an ice cold refreshing Pabst my friend. Try drinking it on your porch/balcony on a warm summer's evening.

broken sm57
Apr 5, 2015
Shortening burger to burg can make you seem like a chill guy but not when you do it in a 5000 word rant about logical fallacies

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR
In some order, (a) maybe try drugs again, since there is more than one depression medication and maybe one of the others will help you fix your brain, (b) consider moving so that you'll at least realize that the grass is not any greener on the other side, and (c) stop caring as much what other people think of you or what you think of other people. If you're telling the truck dude and burger lady stories accurately, then yeah, they're jerks, but you have no idea what else is going on in their lives so that they became jerks in those particular scenarios, and even if there's no mitigating factor, you will never see them again and dwelling on it is not going to help your life in any way. (Okay, truck dude backing into your car is sort of your business, but take it up with your insurance company.)

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

Arven posted:

I think it's just part of getting older that you realize how stupid and selfish people actually are.

This, plus a lot of things happening around is teach us that being a selfish rear end in a top hat is ok and gets us further. See any example of rich or powerful people doing illegal things and getting of with a pat on the hand. Why would you expect average Joe to be any better?

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
Read more Herbert Simon and Gerd Gigerenzer

If the benefit gained by using logic is distributed ~ x and the human computational cost of doing the logic is distributed ~ y and the cost of half assing it is ~ z, and (thinking earthmover dist or something) z > y - x, or dominates in some other nice property, it's perfectly logical to satisfice. Often human cognition tasks have enormously diminishing returns.

Perhaps you've read too much Tversky and Kahnemann, who systematically listed these heuristics as faults, despite the fact that they're pretty accurate and often cost like 100x less thinking time. Computation costs time in people, too, you know

Getting people to use true predicate logic and empiricism and poo poo on everything is like saying that all houses should have 15 bedrooms and 15 baths. Life would be nicer in that objective dimension, yes, but wouldn't it be a waste and a giant loving pain in the rear end?

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
Also, it seems you failed to recognize the status transactions inherent in your interactions, which is why everyone is calling you a goddamn sperg, maybe with good reason

It's status transactions. Sex selection makes chromosomes not be of monstruous size and complexity so you've got to do that poo poo or else our genes could get hosed up. Certainly parthenogenetic species don't have a great time of it (and they have status anyhow too) See the papadimitriou feldman livnat paper about sex selection poo poo, it's got some good arguments.

If you're complaining that the paper has math, lol complaining about math, turnabout is fair play

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!
People are stupid, deal with it.

(And no, I don't claim to have an IQ of 837 and eleven Ph.D.'s. I'm a bit smarter than the average Joe, but I don't wear a t-shirt bragging about it).

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

Viva Miriya posted:

No one just shits themself in class sorry dumbass. Dude disowned a loving disaster.

I know I'm getting piled on but I'll say it anyway. Not just to this poster, speaking in general.

We can assume the kid didn't do it on purpose, he just couldn't manage diarrhea. In this very thread an adult confessed of the same thing happening to him in an office. It's not impossible/unheard of. If you are the kid's friend you can laugh at him and tease him for a while but then you shouldn't cut him off completely, forever. If other kids do the same it's the textbook definition of school abuse through isolation of the victim.

If you want to high-five people for mobbing other kids at school, go ahead I guess. It makes you a hypocrite though if you'll jump do defend a kid that's trans (appropriately, the trans kid and the pants kid were next to each other, in the same post). Either you have a problem with child abuse or you don't, don't be selective about it.

number one pta fan
Sep 6, 2011

my work is my play play
every day pay day
i'd like to apologise to everybody in this thread for the sudden drop in the quality of my posts in this thread, i should probably have never thought a stray i've hosed your mother joke would hold water here and i like to think even in my mediocre moments i am better than that. i took it further because i thought someone was taking me seriously and i could get a bit of a rise. i realise i do not have the gravity in this thread to get away with ironic low content content and from now i'm going to do better. it's really hard to judge the mood and tone of gbs these days, it's varied a lot during my few brief posting stints.

quote:

Not because of personal stuff, or money, or some organic chemistry problem. All of those causes can be, at the very least, mitigated. I get blue--really blue--when it's something outside my ability to help.

too much of this post is just you describing minor social faux pas people have made while you were in the room to come to any actual substantial advice but all i have to say is you're going to love the mike judge film idiocracy and i hope to god we're never friends

quote:

I am the father (yes I am old) of a 17 year old boy who decided he was "trans." I think trans is made up bullshit. for the sake of anonymity lets just say his name was john and now he prefers to be called jane. And my son goes to "Schmendmond Wartime hero Highschool" in Oklahoma Semi-urban area. That's right, the buckle of the loving bible belt. He is skinny, but isnt particularly girlish. He went out and got dresses and wigs and basically just looks like a teenage boy in drag. I am absolutely disgusted by my son.

this is a disgusting low-effort fake. but your son sounds hot. where is oklahoma semi-urban area?

number one pta fan fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jul 21, 2017

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Transdad, TBH its too late to have a good relationship with your daughter (lol). Just tough it out for a year, then kick her out and save money for retirement.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

Doctor Malaver posted:

I know I'm getting piled on but I'll say it anyway. Not just to this poster, speaking in general.

We can assume the kid didn't do it on purpose, he just couldn't manage diarrhea. In this very thread an adult confessed of the same thing happening to him in an office. It's not impossible/unheard of. If you are the kid's friend you can laugh at him and tease him for a while but then you shouldn't cut him off completely, forever. If other kids do the same it's the textbook definition of school abuse through isolation of the victim.

If you want to high-five people for mobbing other kids at school, go ahead I guess. It makes you a hypocrite though if you'll jump do defend a kid that's trans (appropriately, the trans kid and the pants kid were next to each other, in the same post). Either you have a problem with child abuse or you don't, don't be selective about it.

So you're saying making GBS threads yourself and being trans are analogous?

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

Theophany posted:

So you're saying making GBS threads yourself and being trans are analogous?

In a sense that you will suffer abuse from your peers for something that you shouldn't, yes. In that sense they are analogous.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
:wtc:

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

I don't think you should make fun of kids for being trans, and I also don't think you should make fun of kids for making GBS threads themselves in public

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
What about making GBS threads on a trans kid in public?

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
Hot take: if you're a literal child then making fun of someone for making GBS threads themselves is a-okay

don't take the piss out of kids for being trans please

(do perhaps take the piss out of trans kids who poo poo themselves)

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

mfcrocker posted:

Hot take: if you're a literal child then making fun of someone for making GBS threads themselves is a-okay

I stand by what I said: if you are 13 years old and you poo poo yourself in public, a lot, pretty much your only option is to go all "oh no, I am seriously ill, this is a serious malady and not something to be made light of, IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU NEXT", really ham it up, and if you don't do that, yes, you are going to lose some friends. That's what being a kid is like.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Gynovore posted:

People are stupid, deal with it.

Yeah, it really seemed like that whole novel could've been a one sentence confession along the lines of "I think people should be more reasonable and it makes me sad that they are not."

But hey, at least guy is getting therapy and is seeing a doc to try to even out whatever the hell his condition is with medication. So that's good at least. If he'd typed all that while refusing help, that'd be worse than making a dooker in your pants in the middle of yelling at your crying trans child for not mowing the lawn

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Doctor Malaver posted:

In a sense that you will suffer abuse from your peers for something that you shouldn't, yes. In that sense they are analogous.

I don't know. Pooping your pants isn't a protected class.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

quote:

I caught my wife cheating on me. She doesn't know I know yet. I plan to destroy her life. I know it's petty but after reading this, I think you'll see my side.

We married in our late 20s. Knew each other in college as platonic friends. She was too crazy for me back then - as in mentally unwell. But she took meds after college and we reconnected and eventually started dating. We were together as a couple for nearly 12 years.

We have 3 kids together, and we're talking about maybe even having one more. Our 12 year old is a superstar and she's got a bright future ahead of her in any career she wants. Our twin boys are only 4, but they're the light of my life and make me so happy every time I see them.

My wife had a Saturday night planned with friends, and I offered to watch the kids and stay home to avoid getting a sitter. She agreed and headed out around 5 pm to meet her friends.

Around 7 pm my phone starts buzzing like crazy. It's a guy I work with; texting me "Dude I'm sorry" and "Why didn't you talk about the divorce?"

I call him and assume he has the wrong person. But no, he tells me he just "saw my ex wife making out with some guy". I freak out and demand pics, which he sends. It was her. She had some dude's tongue down her throat and his hands down her pants. They were at a POS bar about 45 min away from the house. She must have assumed nobody we knew would see her.

I saved the photos and told my coworker just to keep an eye, but don't push it. He kept sending me photos throughout the night and things got worse. Around 10 pm she led this guy by the hand outside into her car. They were there for almost half an hour, steamed up the windows. I'm guessing he came in her, in my darkest moments I think about that.

I have all the photos, and I'm sure I could find text messages and other things. I searched the car but couldn't find the smoking gun to really prove what happened. But I have no doubt I would destroy her in a divorce.

You might ask why I'm so vindictive. Because, after this incident, I overheard her on the phone one night with some guy. Maybe the same guy?

Her words: "I hate my loving kids so much. They ruined my life"

I will get her back for that, she'll never see the kids again if I get my way.

Speaking as someone who's been married for less than a year, reading accounts of people going through divorces and going to great expense and effort to make each other suffer is really scary :ohdear:

quote:

As long as I can remember, I've had issues with pissing. A basic human function that I apparently can't do properly. It's led to repeated UTI's, to the point I have a new one every week. I've given up treating them as it gets way too expensive to keep buying the medication.

I've had opportunities to have sex, but have turned them down as I'm afraid that, despite using protection, I would give my partner a UTI. I've also been told that this could, if left untreated for too long, lead to infertility.

I really want kids, but at this rate (since I can't keep buying the medication), I might not even be able to, even if I managed to get myself clean long enough to have sex without worry. I fear that my entire purpose, to recreate, is slowly slipping out of reach.

(also yes, I have sought out treatment for the underlying piss problem, nothing has worked)

wait, are UTIs contagious

I don't think they are??? Maybe I dunno

At any rate even if you're 100% medically correct on this, having kids is not the end-all be-all of existence and you shouldn't attach so much importance to it. Look into support material for infertile people; it's out there. I was considering telling you to donate some sperm if you were really that freaked out about it but the confession as written gives no indication w/r/t your gender so I guess only do that if applicable

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
UTIs are treated with super basic antibiotics that are like $5. If they aren't treated, it doesn't lead to infertility (the pee hole is not the same as the sex hole) as much as it goes to your kidneys, destroys them, and eventually kills you if your body can't fight it off.

e: I was thinking women, obv. If you're a guy I think worst-case it can be cured with surgery

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jul 21, 2017

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Holy gently caress, we NEED some sort of follow-up to that cheating one. Wow.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply