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Mak0rz posted:The panic isn't about customer service as much as it is about manufacturing. There are thousands of formerly human-performed jobs that are totally replaced by machines in manufacturing. True, I probably don't see that because I'm so far removed from that. But I guess my second point would be that even though their job was automated, there's still no lack of other jobs for them
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spacetoaster posted:The future is now, old man. Cars being able to do simple tasks in controlled environments is waaaaaay different beast than long-haul trucking, son.
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poisonpill posted:I think Chads would be the scabs in this scenario? You realize science journalism is fraught with inaccuracies, right? And that those estimates are probably, at best, extremely optimistic?
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Who What Now posted:Cars being able to do simple tasks in controlled environments is waaaaaay different beast than long-haul trucking, son. Well yeah, I'm just amazed at the fact a car is being sold that can drive on divided highways with no input from the driver. I mean, I was on board with the 10 to 20 years thing til I saw a special on what Audi is doing. You gotta admit that's a little faster than you thought, right?
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Who What Now posted:Teleportation within the next hour. Time-travel yesterday
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spacetoaster posted:Well yeah, I'm just amazed at the fact a car is being sold that can drive on divided highways with no input from the driver. Considering I was already aware of it, no not really.
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Who What Now posted:Cars being able to do simple tasks in controlled environments is waaaaaay different beast than long-haul trucking, son. Yeah but there won't be any real safety regulations and nobody's going to give a poo poo if a few thousand or however many people a year are killed by autonomous trucks. Also the initial human monitor drivers during initial implementation will totally be eating pay cuts.
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chumbler posted:Yeah but there won't be any real safety regulations and nobody's going to give a poo poo if a few thousand or however many people a year are killed by autonomous trucks. Rofl yeah they will. People wouldn't shut up about the one time the Tesla's automated driving function killed a dude. Never mind thousands of people being slaughtered by robotrucks.
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Automation is really really good at getting rid of super simplistic labour intensive jobs (Why it's taken off in manufacturing) but sucks rear end at everything else. Just look at the self checkouts at grocery stores. You usually have four kiosks and they need somebody on hand to make sure it doesn't immediately poo poo the bed on the customer plus probably some guy working on the back end of things, and it's not like they would've employed four cashiers there to begin with anyways. Its just silicon valley idiots swanning about how they're going to change the world, just lol if we're a decade away from some major societal shift.
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1500quidporsche posted:Automation is really really good at getting rid of super simplistic labour intensive jobs (Why it's taken off in manufacturing) but sucks rear end at everything else. Just look at the self checkouts at grocery stores. You usually have four kiosks and they need somebody on hand to make sure it doesn't immediately poo poo the bed on the customer plus probably some guy working on the back end of things, and it's not like they would've employed four cashiers there to begin with anyways. Its just silicon valley idiots swanning about how they're going to change the world, just lol if we're a decade away from some major societal shift. Aren't we already in the middle of one, though? The majority of positions 50 years ago were in manufacturing. Now the vast majority of work is being done in the service industry where the jobs are way more tenuous and require much more social skill than we expected from manufacturing.
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That's been the case since the 90s though. I don't think we're without issues, free trade in its current form just depresses wage growth and employee rights are slowly being rolled back. Also a quarter of most western world economies is based around "financial services" which is basically moving numbers around on a spreadsheet and taking a cut for loans, insurance and investments while hoping the end consumer doesn't do the math. I think we do face real challenges in the coming years but I don't think automation is a going to be one of them. Having said that I don't think these incel idiots are really going to help fight that cause, it's far more concerning that some muscly dude can get women through some amount of effort.
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1500quidporsche posted:That's been the case since the 90s though. The fact that a good portion (to say the least) of these guys are sympathetic to alt-right and other conservative elements doesn't surprise me about that.
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mojo1701a posted:The fact that a good portion (to say the least) of these guys are sympathetic to alt-right and other conservative elements doesn't surprise me about that. Fascism is built on young men without prospects, skills, or talent looking up from their video screens and asking "gently caress you, where's mine."
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Uberskooper posted:Fascism is built on young men without prospects, skills, or talent looking up from their video screens and asking "gently caress you, where's mine." My thoughts exactly. It's amazing how much incels reflect the tenets of ur-fascism.
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At the Dr right now, there is a cabinet marked surgicel. That's a new type of incel to me.
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poisonpill posted:Within the next ten years at a conservative estimate all the long haul trucking in the US will be automated. That's something like four million jobs right there. Automated cars are a pipedream and will be forgotten within 5 years like they have been every time they've come up since the 50s. People have been predicting the death of trucking for as long as there have been truckers.
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Surgicel's are 'cels that believe surgery will make them more desirable to Stacies/Chad's/?. But it's infact not their looks, but their hideous personalities.
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They've already got the "over-the-road" part down. Self-Driving Truck Makes First Trip: A 120-mile Beer Run
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dog nougat posted:Surgicel's are 'cels that believe surgery will make them more desirable to Stacies/Chad's/?. But it's infact not their looks, but their hideous personalities. They need radical illegal Chaddening surgery
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Improbable Lobster posted:They need radical illegal Chaddening surgery Steven King's; The Chaddening.
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The Maroon Hawk posted:They've already got the "over-the-road" part down. Highways aren't the difficult part.
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Literally A Person posted:Steven King's; The Chaddening. In Stephen King's Clit a group of incels is hunted by a nightmarish monstrosity that they can never seem to find.
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fruit on the bottom posted:In Stephen King's Clit a group of incels is hunted by a nightmarish monstrosity that they can never seem to find. 
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The Dead Zone, the personality of the average incel
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Much like witches in mexican folklore (don't know if this is also held as a belief in other countries) incels hate mirrors because they see the rotten dregs of their soul and personality, not their looks as they claim.
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The Dark Tower series is about Tyrone spit roasting a plethora of Stacies with his bbc
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Desperation, the average state of the incel
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A Very Tight Place, a virgin's vagina before she's ruined by Chad
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The Tale of Gray Dick, an Incel's penis
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Carrie (her printer)
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Misery, but the hobbling is self-inflicted.
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The Long Walk, but the walk is an incel carrying a printer to Stacy's house.
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14-08, the age range incels insist is a woman's prime.
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i like that posted:I'm not much of a porn watcher. Is piss play that common in mainstream stuff for incels to think that's what typical sex is like? Or is this some sort of psychological defense (women don't want love and kindness, it's their nature to desire be brutalized by alphas despite what they say etc). I thought it belonged in a fetish category. Hmm, I wonder why piss play seems so popular in incel discussion. *Incel opens up Pornhub, types "dumb bitch humiliated" in search bar* 
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Automation is only big right now because Silicon Valley is investing so much in pushing the idea because it ultimately suits their interests. Same with the recent push for Universal Basic Income, it seems utopian but it's really just an extension of the same libertarian technocrat mindset that gives us Soylent, tiny houses, etc. where they want everyone living as serfs as cheaply as possible so they don't have to pay for an actual decent standard of living like every other first-world country.
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tiny houses with minimalist concrete furniture the air is silent without the laughter of children
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Guy Mann posted:Automation is only big right now because Silicon Valley is investing so much in pushing the idea because it ultimately suits their interests. Same with the recent push for Universal Basic Income, it seems utopian but it's really just an extension of the same libertarian technocrat mindset that gives us Soylent, tiny houses, etc. where they want everyone living as serfs as cheaply as possible so they don't have to pay for an actual decent standard of living like every other first-world country. I can almost guarantee these incels love the concept of UBI without realising the huge amount of consequences that come with it. "UGGHHH LIFE IS TOO HARD. PAY ME MONEY BECAUSE I CANT INTERACT WITH MY PEERS"
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poisonpill posted:Look at the numbers: the cost of drivers is the biggest expense for freight, the technology will be available within three to five years, and rotating out these trucks will cost a fraction of a year's salaries. lol how is driver salary the main cost in shipping, big rigs do like 6 mpg, plus there's the cost of maintenance and everything else.
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Archives posted:lol how is driver salary the main cost in shipping, big rigs do like 6 mpg, plus there's the cost of maintenance and everything else. driver wage and fuel prices are pretty much equal in shipping costs at about 30% and equipment/maintenance is ~25%
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