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Mandel was within 6 points of Brown in 2012. I think this dope beating Brown would be worse than Feingold losing to Johnson...
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I was surprised to find out Mandel is older than me. He looks like a loving baby in his commercials. Also, Sherrod Brown is indeed awesome. The morning local news always has clips of him discussing what's going on. Never see anything like that from Portman.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:43
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mcmagic posted:Mandel was within 6 points of Brown in 2012. I think this dope beating Brown would be worse than Feingold losing to Johnson... Brown's polling against Mandel isn't great  WTF Ohio? Is there some local reason he's unpopular?
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Jul 21, 2017 00:46
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Krispy Kareem posted:
I'm still amazed that wasn't the center of the biggest attack ad campaign of all.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:52
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Mr Hootington posted:That doesn't sound like bipartisanship. What if you use both fists?
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Jul 21, 2017 00:53
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Brown's polling against Mandel isn't great Sherrod Brown (D)
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Brown's polling against Mandel isn't great Yes: Ohio is terrible
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/888045938324815872 The fact that they are like two dozen seats away from being able to do this is alarming.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:54
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Okay I can't not see this dillhole without seeing Shooter McGavin. 
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Jul 21, 2017 00:56
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KickerOfMice posted:Welp. Horrifying, wasn't it? I helped research for that book, AMA
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Jul 21, 2017 00:57
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/888045938324815872 Amendments proposed by a constitutional convention still need 75% ratification by the individual states, which basically isn't loving happening. The only thing a constitutional convention does is bypass the Congressional introduction step.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:57
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Huh. An alt-right Jew who invokes the holocaust while making light of the genocide of American Indians. Huh. He should go to more of those free speech rallies and let the oathkeepers and 3% crew get a good look at that nose and see what happens.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:58
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/888045938324815872 It's been their goal for at least a decade. They're within striking distance of doing it by 2019 if 2018 goes as spectacularly terrible for the Democrats as I've resigned myself that it will. ALEC has been working like a motherfucker to turn state houses and governors mansions red, and they're almost there...
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Jul 21, 2017 00:59
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/888045938324815872 Hahaha that shits never happening
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“I assume you’re gonna leave this off, don’t put this poo poo on the show, you know. But her skin, her skin sucks, okay?” he says, according to the transcript. “I mean her skin, she needs some serious fuckin’ dermatology.” Cyndi Lauper, who headed the team that managed West, interjected to explain that they used “dry stuff” ― presumably, makeup ― and said Trump was objecting to something that was “not her skin.” But he remained unimpressed. “gently caress,” he proclaimed. “That’s Emily, that’s what I’m hearing about? Let me see the other one. I assume you’re not putting this on the show. ‘Cause I don’t wanna destroy the kid’s career.” ... “Personally, I am, as you probably heard, not a gay man, but I think he’s better looking that [sic] Emily okay?” Trump said of Bryan at one point. Trump also asked Trace Adkins, the country music star who served as a guest judge on the show, what he thought about brochures that each team produced. “Well I um, I, I think the one they did for Emily is a little more polished looking,” Adkins said. “You’re obviously not a skin man,” Trump said. He later reiterated the point, pounded the table and said, “which is okay.” He added, “I wish I wasn’t.”
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nine-gear crow posted:It's been their goal for at least a decade. They're within striking distance of doing it by 2019 if 2018 goes as spectacularly terrible for the Democrats as I've resigned myself that it will. No, they're not.
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Despera posted:Hahaha that shits never happening We said that about a Trump presidency. All options are on the table
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Trabisnikof posted:As opposed to Obama? What did his legislative experience bring? Obama's actually an example of how having little political experience is bad, not an example of relevant experience not mattering. He was only elected to the Senate four years before being elected to the White House, and wasn't involved in national politics before that at all. Republicans would have tried to stonewall anyone, but even allies were critical of Obama for not being good at congressional politics as president. Experience also matters when it comes to knowing enough to know which people to choose to trust, and what advice to ignore, which isn't to say experienced politicians never trust the wrong people. The presidency is too important to hand to a novice, and it's hurting Republicans that Trump doesn't know anything about their agenda.
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Jul 21, 2017 01:03
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nine-gear crow posted:ALEC has been working like a motherfucker to turn state houses and governors mansions red, and they're almost there... lol, no they are not even close. When you lay the states out from most red to most blue, and start counting, you'll see that something like Connecticut would have to say "sure, sounds good to us" to ratify a GOP-led amendment.
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Spiffster posted:We said that about a Trump presidency. All options are on the table One of these things is not like the other
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Watching goons freak out about an article v convention of states was definitely worth the 10 dollar rereg.
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Spiffster posted:We said that about a Trump presidency. All options are on the table I'm going to start using this for literally any unlikely scenario now. "Richard Spencer is about to be named the head of BLM" "What? You're high" "Well you were so confident about a trump loss, and look how that turned out!"
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Jul 21, 2017 01:10
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Spiffster posted:We said that about a Trump presidency. All options are on the table Winning an electoral victory in a presidential election is qualitatively and quantitatively very different from achieving total (or sufficiently close to total, in the event of wacky delegation bullshit) control of 75% of US states. Sure, it's theoretically possible, but President Trump doesnt necessarily mean that eg New Jersey is going to go full Trump and okay a constitutional amendment abolishing birthright citizenship. If I remembered how to do Select All on my phone I could literally go back and post the numbers, as it stands you'll have to either remember how to use Google or wait for someone else to do it for you.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:No, they're not. Even loving Idaho failed to pass a convention call bill or whatever they're called.
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Spiffster posted:We said that about a Trump presidency. All options are on the table #34 Maine #35 Virginia #36 Colorado #37 Delaware #38 New Jersey #39 Connecticut Your mission is to convince the state legislature of half of those states to agree to the "gently caress the Democrats forever" constitutional amendment. Ready, and..... go
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Ague Proof posted:"Where do they get "founded on Judaeo Christian values" The US also wasn't founded on Christian values or beliefs and Jefferson explicitly said the US is not a Christian nation.  Oh hey, it's that program that I've mentioned the GOP was going to use to disenfranchise millions of people and was part of their assault on voters in multiple states that the GOP (barely) won in 2016. Well I'm sure we won't see it used to steal elections next year or in 2020 as it gets the full weight of the Federal government put behind it to purge poor/minority-heavy voter rolls.
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Despera posted:Watching goons freak out about an article v convention of states was definitely worth the 10 dollar rereg.  Like, the most hellish plausible amendment from random state-level morons that might stand a chance is some form of balanced budget amendment. Which is you know, pretty hellish, but for reasons that take time to explain, which is the only reason its odds are distinguishable from zero.
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Spiffster posted:We said that about a Trump presidency. All options are on the table lol loving shut up a constitutional convention isn't happening with a legislature that can't even pass a loving bill
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Rigel posted:Your mission is to convince the state legislature of half of those states to agree to the "gently caress the Democrats forever" constitutional amendment. Ready, and..... go Shower them in enough  and you'd probably flip half of em.
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Rigel posted:#34 Maine And the governors, probably!
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Covok posted:Also, our founding father's were Deists. Deism can be described as "The belief that God has created the universe but remains apart from it and permits his creation to administer itself through natural laws." Which is funny because, having actually looked it up, it mimics a religious line of thought that I exposed for a while so it's weird to think someone beat me to it. Regardless, this stands in direct contrast with 95% of conservative Christian American values. TWO of them were deists. A very important two (Franklin and Jefferson), but this dumb repeated fact is dumb. edit: There may have been another one but the vast majority of the founders were Christian.
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This is fun. Since we sometimes daydream about getting rid of the electoral college and changing the senate to be more proportional to the state populations, we would need to convince half of these states to agree to the "gently caress the GOP forever" constitutional amendment. #10 Idaho #11 Nebraska #12 Louisiana #13 Mississippi #14 Indiana #15 Missouri
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theflyingorc posted:TWO of them were deists. A very important two (Franklin and Jefferson), but this dumb repeated fact is dumb.
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Jaxyon posted:I'm going to start using this for literally any unlikely scenario now. That's crazy. Richard Spencer is the Navy Secretary.
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Rigel posted:This is fun. Since we sometimes daydream about getting rid of the electoral college and changing the senate to be more proportional to the state populations, we would need to convince half of these states to agree to the "gently caress the GOP forever" constitutional amendment. Technically you could override the electoral college with just enough states to get 271 electors but your second point stands
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theflyingorc posted:TWO of them were deists. A very important two (Franklin and Jefferson), but this dumb repeated fact is dumb. And Thomas Paine. Ethan Allen. Probably Monroe as well. Except, you know, the enormous prevalence of deism among educated people in that time period and influence of it on even the founders who remained Christian. Dumb would be claiming that deism was limited to people who were vocally and explicitly Deists.
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Insurrectum posted:Technically you could override the electoral college with just enough states to get 271 electors but your second point stands Yeah, the NPV interstate compact is the only plausible way to get around the electoral college.
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Hellblazer187 posted:He's not "young" but Sherrod Brown is still my pick for 2020. Haha so many hardcore retarded right wingers from Cleveland will kill themselves if his wife became first lady. I support his candidacy.
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this is a fun article *** warning louise mensch is the focus, but not because the author likes her *** http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449671/louise-mensch-donald-trump-russia-conspiracy-theories
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Jaxyon posted:And Thomas Paine. Ethan Allen. Probably Monroe as well. I mean, at least let's keep it to signatures of the constitution, or people who had a real effect on crafting the government, not the Paines and Allens of the world. Regardless, "the founding fathers were deists" paints a really inaccurate picture of what was going on. They were, however, dedicated to not favoring any religion - unlike what modern conservatism wants to claim.
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