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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

That shouldn't really be possible without finishing school, you need a post-school qualification to qualify for university so unless he went to a university building to do a non-university qualification I don't see how he could.
I think the only consensus was that he got his GCSEs and left.

He could have done that and done A-levels elsewhere. Or done that and then an access course. Or got some relevant NVQs/BTECs and convinced an admissions board. Or the bit about him being a high-school dropout was actually a mistruth on the internet. :monocle:

Doesn't stop him being an rear end in a top hat though. James Watson and Tim Hunt are both Nobel laureates and far more qualified than I'll ever be unless I find where they've been keeping the magic money tree, but I still feel qualified to call them assholes for their attitudes to women and minorities. Even in areas where you should have a clue what you're talking about many trans people have a story about rear end in a top hat endocrinologists. There's a line where your qualifications don't protect you from being thought less of for this poo poo. And even if he'd finished university, having a Single Honours in Comp. Sci. doesn't mean you know poo poo about race or gender.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


speaking of very smart guys who are also dumb assholes who hate women remember when dicky dawkins got absolutely destroyed on twitter?

https://storify.com/JoshMock/dawkins-gets-bofa-d

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Groovelord Neato posted:

cdc released a report that more than half of all murders of women are committed by an intimate partner (current or ex).

but it's the feminists we must worry about.

What's the percentage of men killed by their partners, in comparison? I presume it's less but I'm curious about how they compare.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
Lauren Southern had her welfare cut. I dunno if it's because she's a white supremacist or because she used it to do crimes but there you go

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

SSNeoman posted:

1. The Ticking Bomb scenario never happens. Ever. At all. It's a hollywood fantasy. Every person who was ever involved in counterterrorism will tell you so. Just ask former FBI interrogator Jack Cloonan, a dude who helped locate Bin Laden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGdNhwFqhyU
2. For a man who dismissed emotional and moral arguments against torture, he is awfully willing to apply them to justify torture in his time bomb scenario
3. "Opponents of torture will be quick to argue that confessions elicited by torture are notoriously unreliable. Given the foregoing, however, this objection seems to lack its usual force. Make these confessions as unreliable as you like—the chance that our interests will be advanced in any instance of torture need only equal the chance of such occasioned by the dropping of a single bomb. " is loving stupid and literally the opposite of reality. Harris is dismissing the single strongest point against torture: it doesn't work. We tried it time and time again and we got useless information that did not help US interests. Under pain (not the threat of pain, mind) people will say anything for the torture to stop. And rarely is it true.
4. Harris is equating killing soldiers on the battlefield with torturing POWs. I trust I don't have to explain the massive divide between two enemy combatants and a torture/victim scenario. Harris does not even set up his scenario honestly.
5. Harris assumes all radicals are 100% devoted to their cause. This is patently untrue as Jack Cloonan can once again confirm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCXnZUu3o1E Even the much-feared Bin Laden was a hypocrite. He lived in a fortified stronghold, not in a cave. And despite expecting celibacy from his followers, he lived with multiple wives and had absolute shittons of porn. People are people, and Harris is constantly trying to convince us they are not.
6. Harris is ignoring what precedent torture set for US foreign policy and how we are viewed by the rest of the world.
7. The reputation of the above is used by radicals to radicalize regular people and gain more membership, making their numbers grow. Harris' approach will just lead to more terrorism. You think they are afraid of the US's bluster? ISIL literally uses Trump's speeches in their ads to convince people to not escape to other countries.

all of this. in my homeland security classes(its minor now) they tell us point blank that its all a bunch of horse poo poo written by dumb gently caress conservatives for erotic fiction.


Visidan posted:

Lauren Southern had her welfare cut. I dunno if it's because she's a white supremacist or because she used it to do crimes but there you go

welfare welfare or patreon fund? either way good.


fallenturtle posted:

Have you guys seen any of Suit Yourself's videos? He seems to be an enormous jackass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Y0WX3bjz4

so he hosed around with SFM and instead of making hosed up porn or weird funny videos, he made stupid hateful bullshit. what a supreme gentlemen.

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money

Guavanaut posted:

Hell, who do you think encourages lower working class people to be racist? They themselves don't benefit from it, other ethnicities certainly don't benefit from it.

This. Middle class white racism is the most insidious and vicious. Jethro up in the mountains probably hasn't even seen a black man in years, but the middle class have the incentive and ability to actively disenfranchise anyone who doesn't fit the paper bag test.

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
And in my experience, working class whites aren't as bad because they often actually have to work with the people they're supposed to hate. It's pretty difficult to harbor hatred when you work alongside other types of people for years, going through the same struggles together. It's very humanizing.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Avenging_Mikon posted:

Christ. I knew the proportion was high, but I didn't think it was THAT high. I wonder if there's a correlation between that rate and availability of domestic abuse support in an area (i.e. more support = fewer intimate partner murders).
According to the FBI domestic violence is the second most common cause of violent death in America period. Second only to homicide directly related to the drug trade, and the majority of those victims are men. Given that the FBI frequently under reports crimes against women, it is possible that the domestic violence numbers are actually much higher.

Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jul 21, 2017

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Visidan posted:

Lauren Southern had her welfare cut. I dunno if it's because she's a white supremacist or because she used it to do crimes but there you go

The paypal is already up, by the way

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

fallenturtle posted:

FWIW, Carl claims he went to two years of Uni before dropping out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07qPpmsY7NM&t=3558s

Does the UK have a similar set up regarding colleges and universities as the U.S. does? Here, anyone can go to college as long as they're 18, but universities require either high school diplomas or a sufficient completion of college classes (usually two years worth in most cases).

If so, then I don't think he went to Uni. When he was being interviewed by Maddox and they brought that up, he kind of looked uncomfortable and almost ashamed when he admitted that he dropped out of high school.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

Mr Interweb posted:

If so, then I don't think he went to Uni. When he was being interviewed by Maddox and they brought that up, he kind of looked uncomfortable and almost ashamed when he admitted that he dropped out of high school.

I think that's Maddox in the video I posted, so he lied and later admitted the truth I guess.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

fallenturtle posted:

I think that's Maddox in the video I posted, so he lied and later admitted the truth I guess.

Oh whoops. Sorry, didn't click the link (youtube's disabled at work).

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

Mr Interweb posted:

Does the UK have a similar set up regarding colleges and universities as the U.S. does? Here, anyone can go to college as long as they're 18, but universities require either high school diplomas or a sufficient completion of college classes (usually two years worth in most cases).

If so, then I don't think he went to Uni. When he was being interviewed by Maddox and they brought that up, he kind of looked uncomfortable and almost ashamed when he admitted that he dropped out of high school.

I think it more or less works similarly in the UK. University courses usually have a minimum requirement of grades from high school, but you can also go to college and complete HNC/HNDs which can count towards entry requirements.

I think universities can also accept you if you happen to be experienced in your chosen area despite a lack of formal qualifications (like, you went straight into a job out of school and build a career) but I'm not overly familiar with the ins and outs of the education system.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


ungulateman posted:

What's the percentage of men killed by their partners, in comparison? I presume it's less but I'm curious about how they compare.

5 percent.

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

fallenturtle posted:

FWIW, Carl claims he went to two years of Uni before dropping out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07qPpmsY7NM&t=3558s

Carl is a lazy gently caress who would spend his days playing total war and civ if given the chance

Madmarker
Jan 7, 2007

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Carl is a lazy gently caress who would spend his days playing total war and civ if given the chance

I'd be much happier if he made 60k a year doing that rather than him make the same money flapping his mouth on youtube.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Visidan posted:

Lauren Southern had her welfare cut. I dunno if it's because she's a white supremacist or because she used it to do crimes but there you go

she's canadian right? Might be that her employment insurance has run out

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
once again i apologize for the fact that canada seems to have produced a disproportionate amount of race realists and stefan molyneux

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

all of this. in my homeland security classes(its minor now) they tell us point blank that its all a bunch of horse poo poo written by dumb gently caress conservatives for erotic fiction.

I used to do intelligence history (Cold War mostly). Any interesting resources you can share?

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Low Desert Punk posted:

This. Middle class white racism is the most insidious and vicious. Jethro up in the mountains probably hasn't even seen a black man in years, but the middle class have the incentive and ability to actively disenfranchise anyone who doesn't fit the paper bag test.

Racism as a mechanism for dividing and conquering the lower classes is built into the very DNA of the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon%27s_Rebellion#Backlash

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

Dreylad posted:

once again i apologize for the fact that canada seems to have produced a disproportionate amount of race realists...

But enough about the Barenaked Ladies...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Carl is a lazy gently caress who would spend his days playing total war and civ if given the chance

As if you can't do that and get a degree, I did.

Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

Monglo posted:

The article seems extremely biased. I mean if Sam Harris really said those words in the way its portrayed, don't you think Maajid Nawaz, a Muslim brown person, the podcast guest, would not object to it? It's taken out of context, when Harris asks the question he is expressing a position that he doesn't personally share.

Maajid Nawaz is part of a group of people that claim to be Muslim "reformers" but don't actually practice the religion and get most of their funding from right wing think tanks. They frequently target any other Muslim personality, right or left, who gets more recognition than they do, and it leads to them allying with bigots.

Of course Nawaz doesn't mind saying that adding Muslims will destroy society. Look at the reformers he and Harris support.

Asra Nomani: Virulent trump supporter.

Tarek Fateh: Accused a black rapper with an Arab name of being a Saudi puppet and fathering 11 kids out of wedlock, targets black feminists.

Zuhdi Jasser: Testified before a congressional hearing that if Muslims were allowed religious freedom we would soon have "blue-eyed, blond-haired kids" becoming Muslims, and this would be bad...

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Getting a college degree really isn't all that difficult especially on the lower rung universities, you can literally just play civilization and Warcraft and graduate with minimal effort, the fact that Carl of Sad wasn't able to clear that low bar in a place like England where college was cheaper when he was college age really says a lot about how fundamentally dumb he is.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Mormon Star Wars posted:

Asra Nomani: Virulent trump supporter.

lol was this the lady trying to tone police on bill maher??

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Al-Saqr posted:

Getting a college degree really isn't all that difficult especially on the lower rung universities, you can literally just play civilization and Warcraft and graduate with minimal effort, the fact that Carl of Sad wasn't able to clear that low bar in a place like England where college was cheaper when he was college age really says a lot about how fundamentally dumb he is.

Yeah, as I've said before Carl isn't just dumb in a "bad opinions" way, but he actually comes off as being genuinely stupid in an "ability to reason and solve problems" sense. But a bunch of young Americans hear him and think "so fuckin intellectual man..." because of his accent.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

Ytlaya posted:

Yeah, as I've said before Carl isn't just dumb in a "bad opinions" way, but he actually comes off as being genuinely stupid in an "ability to reason and solve problems" sense. But a bunch of young Americans hear him and think "so fuckin intellectual man..." because of his accent.

Have you seen this InfoWars clip where Jones mocks Sargon's accent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqMV8hnmHzU

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I do wonder where he got the 'head up own arse' tory boy accent from. It's not native to any geographical location as far as I know.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

the same place they get everything else from, the internet. if the name didn't clue you in, most of these dudes are the epitome of 'just read wiki, now here is my hot take'.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean it takes practice, it's not the sort of thing people generally end up with and it's not particularly easy to fake even for a brit.

Like I have a similar voice but I still slip into broad northern frequently because that's where I actually live.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

He's so fake it becomes real

Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

Groovelord Neato posted:

lol was this the lady trying to tone police on bill maher??

Yes, she also is an unironic GEORGE SOROS conspiracy theorist.

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord

ungulateman posted:

What's the percentage of men killed by their partners, in comparison? I presume it's less but I'm curious about how they compare.

from the article:

quote:

Data from earlier reports suggest a far smaller percentage of men—around 5 to 7 percent—were killed by intimate partners.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
New Contra is out and hits so close to home I wanna curl up in a ball and not exist.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

New Contra is out and hits so close to home I wanna curl up in a ball and not exist.

I'm loving the Anita "costume".

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pembroke Fuse posted:

I used to do intelligence history (Cold War mostly). Any interesting resources you can share?

Most of it isn't as interesting book wise as your thinking. I have done the intro class and the FEMA class Terrorism is next and then its intelligence. Most of it is just text books, I'll dig them out and give you the names though. Also this is at a small state school and a small minor. I'd love to get a job in some IC/DHS org but I'll probably end up doing a museum job like I am now.

Ytlaya posted:

Yeah, as I've said before Carl isn't just dumb in a "bad opinions" way, but he actually comes off as being genuinely stupid in an "ability to reason and solve problems" sense. But a bunch of young Americans hear him and think "so fuckin intellectual man..." because of his accent.

This. Carl knows big words and some basic ideas and a passing knowledge of ancient history and a accent and knows how to ramble for hours. He is a sophist at best.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Most of it isn't as interesting book wise as your thinking. I have done the intro class and the FEMA class Terrorism is next and then its intelligence. Most of it is just text books, I'll dig them out and give you the names though. Also this is at a small state school and a small minor. I'd love to get a job in some IC/DHS org but I'll probably end up doing a museum job like I am now.

Thanks. Not sure if DHS requires some sort of prior LEO experience (I guess that depends on the role you're going for).

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pembroke Fuse posted:

Thanks. Not sure if DHS requires some sort of prior LEO experience (I guess that depends on the role you're going for).

Apparently not. My major is history and my original minor was library science( I hated it. A lot) but dhs is great. The new teacher is liberal boarding on socialist and talks about his time in dea and federal prosecution. Then he talks about how trump and the GOP should be all shot for treason.

Cream
May 6, 2007
Fett-kart
Is there a debate or a discussion going in here? Let me know when it happens.

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Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

Cream posted:

Is there a debate or a discussion going in here? Let me know when it happens.

No sorry this is the leftie shitposting about people who say things that make us mad thread

Intrinsic Field Marshal fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jul 21, 2017

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