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VHGS posted:Items are always in the same place, so you don't need to guess. But yeah, you just click on the slot to swing at it, and it'll reveal if you have enough gathering. Motherfucker. I noticed this but somehow didn't connect the dots in my tiny lizard brain. So if I know what's in a slot, I just click it, put on the collectors glove, then proceed to appraising but without the 300gp deficit?
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Mordiceius posted:So does that mean the person summoning can summon a primal that even they don't know exists? The Eorzeans had no idea who Shinryu was, but Yugiri knew. It just feels weird that it's not explained how he summoned fourth a primal of a mythic figure from another cultures folklore that he himself was unaware of. This already kinda happened before. During the first calamity, people were praying for a miracle. Louisoux was killed by Bahamut, and between everyone's prayers + his own aether, they created the primal Phoenix. I think that's how it went anyways. The naming thing was already covered. The Domans had myths about an angry dragon god. They saw an angry dragon god.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Well, almost complete, I can't pick between Blackflame and Blueflame. Blue.  May not have obnoxiously huge lite brites on my hands, but at least I still have my old man staff. Also I love how many WHM poses look like shredding. 
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The naming thing was already covered. The Domans had myths about an angry dragon god. They saw an angry dragon god. Yeah. I guess that does make the most sense. It's less about what it actually is and more about what it is interpreted as.
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Did the fundamental BLM rotation or usage of procs change at all with 4.05? How should Triplecast be used now that it's up every single minute? (Or Sharpcast for that matter, I never did really work that one out.)
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Ciaphas posted:Did the fundamental BLM rotation or usage of procs change at all with 4.05? How should Triplecast be used now that it's up every single minute? (Or Sharpcast for that matter, I never did really work that one out.) I just use triplecast as soon as I'm about to cast three F4s in a row, and sharpcast as soon as I'm about to cast either Fire or Thunder. Preferably Thunder, but both Firestarter procs and Thundercloud procs (assuming they add at least 3 dot ticks or so) put out higher pps than Fire IV itself does, and we want to use every proc we can in order to buy time for Foul to charge. You get sliiiightly better value if you don't Triplecast at the same time as you Leylines, for instance in my opener I go Triplecast, F4 Diversion F4 Sharpcast F4 Leylines, F1, F4 F4 F4... As of the changes to mana costs in 4.05, you can cast five F4s and one F1 in each astral cycle without B4. With B4, you can cast... six F4s and one F1. That means that B4's utility on single targets is even shittier than before, and the only reason you should cast it is in your opener or if you've JUST cast Foul the instant it finished charging, i.e. you are going back into Astral with little or no visible purple on your Foul charge timer.
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It also seems like primals have an "imprint" that they leave based on people's ideas and associations, which exists even when the primal hasn't been summoned and is what makes summon-egis work. This means that they have a certain amount of continuity between incarnations and don't need an art upgrade every time we repeat The Navel (Extreme). If this exists before anybody summons it, it's possible that somebody doing a primal summoning flavored with "dragon" and "vengeance" and "calamity" was always going to get something resembling Shinryu because it was a pre-existing myth that matched those wishes.
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Hey Bob, fire up the random primal generator! This time the keywords are "anger" "hunger" and "tacos!"
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ilifinicus posted:you're either a giant piece of poo poo or should get better raid members because that's really lovely to even have the mindset to think of pulling It's actually the best of both worlds: I filled in for the shittiest static ever who were banging their heads against the Omega 1 Savage wall. I didn't bring food because who cares, but they made a big deal about how if you're not bringing food and pots, you're basically wasting everyone's time. So I went to get food, and one of their static members also had to go pick up food. When we came back, that guy in their own static was the one who had a +1 vit bonus, and when they called him out he said some version of "hurr hurr uhhhh I'm poor." Then they failed every mechanic and ran off the edge a bunch until I gave up and left.
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Umbreon posted:So if I know what's in a slot, I just click it, put on the collectors glove, then proceed to appraising but without the 300gp deficit? Yeah, exactly. It costs a gathering attempt, but you can always get more than one of those out of the gp once you get to 56 or so. Unrelated, whoever was complaining about crafter yellow scrips the other day, I agree, but also try Blacksmith out. You need some other classes for mats, but it gives a pretty good amount and doesn't take any random drops. I was able to gather up the mats myself and craft enough for about 1500 scrips in under 3 hours.
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Mordiceius posted:Hey Bob, fire up the random primal generator! This time the keywords are "anger" "hunger" and "tacos!" Alright what can I do for you?
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Mordiceius posted:Hey Bob, fire up the random primal generator! This time the keywords are "anger" "hunger" and "tacos!" So Cynthia, the suburban mom at Taco Bell who wants to speak with the manager?
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Thundarr posted:I think it was less trying to do something specific and more "gently caress everyone". Of course, there's also the entire question of If The Twelve are even real and not just mythology themselves. But either way, if you did summon one of The Twelve as a Primal, it would just be a Primal taking on the form of one of them, rather then the actual deity (again, if they actually exist.)
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Mr. Nice! posted:Alright what can I do for you? my path is blocked by a pile of tacos
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:my path is blocked by a pile of tacos The Sims 3, 2009
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Dr Pepper posted:Of course, there's also the entire question of If The Twelve are even real and not just mythology themselves. But either way, if you did summon one of The Twelve as a Primal, it would just be a Primal taking on the form of one of them, rather then the actual deity (again, if they actually exist.) Isn't the Garlean position that the twelve are dimly remembered primals that haven't been summoned in a really long time? That seems fairly plausible, that's basically what half the primals we see are for beast tribes
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:my path is blocked by a pile of tacos sounds like a good problem to have.
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Magil Zeal posted:I've been playing a ladyfell since beta 3 and can't say I've had this problem, unless you mean the /pet emotes. That happens occasionally. I do get the /pet emotes, but it's from other goons and none are BFM so it's okay. Freaksaus posted:Meanwhile, in Kugane
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Bell_ posted:If there's anything I really missed last year it's those emotes. I will pay full dollar for every single one of them if it comes around. These? 
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Reiterpallasch posted:i don't remember the dialogue exactly, but the impression i got is that ilberd just got a generic gently caress-off powerful dragon, and it was named after something from doman mythology because they were the first to give it a name Yeah, Zenos says as much too when he first shows you Shinryu in the cutscene at the end of Ala Mhigo. Shinryu wasn't shaped by any mythos, just Ilberd's raw desire to gently caress everyone over. hence why it's called "a creature of pure violence." Hidingo Kojimba fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Mordiceius posted:Hey Bob, fire up the random primal generator! This time the keywords are "anger" "hunger" and "tacos!" Ok the logo for Taco Time is a cactus, so the primal is a giant Cactar.
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cheetah7071 posted:Isn't the Garlean position that the twelve are dimly remembered primals that haven't been summoned in a really long time? That seems fairly plausible, that's basically what half the primals we see are for beast tribes Yeah pretty much. And 12 worship is so old no one can say anything beyond what the mythology says. At least with Shiva, Bahamut and Garuda we know about them in reality. The 12 are a magnitute older than all of them.
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Is there a way to unlock all the 2.x dungeons and trials like the Hard-mode Primals without doing the Relic Reborn quest? I want the dungeons and trials, I'd prefer to avoid the bullshit. Especially because I already got an Ironworks Axe.
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bewilderment posted:Is there a way to unlock all the 2.x dungeons and trials like the Hard-mode Primals without doing the Relic Reborn quest? Only two forgettable trials (chimera and hydra) are locked behind the relic quest, and even they only require you to go halfway through the first step, which is extremely fast and not grindy like later steps
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bewilderment posted:Is there a way to unlock all the 2.x dungeons and trials like the Hard-mode Primals without doing the Relic Reborn quest? only trials locked behind the relic quest are chimera and hydra, which are pretty safely skippable. although if you really do want to unlock those just to say you have them they are very early in the relic questline and dont take long to reach.
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Sotar posted:Ok the logo for Taco Time is a cactus, so the primal is a giant Cactar. Hangry Sabotender
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Augus posted:only trials locked behind the relic quest are chimera and hydra, which are pretty safely skippable. although if you really do want to unlock those just to say you have them they are very early in the relic questline and dont take long to reach. Whoops, somehow I thought stuff like Amdapor Keep was locked behind it too. If it's just Hydra and Chimera I suppose I won't bother. Chimera I might do but I'm not gonna tool around killing 24 enemies just to fight an average boss.
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a kitten posted:These might come in handy. Some good macros right there.
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Saint Freak posted:These? Thanks a lot, now I'm $7.50 poorer.
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Bell_ posted:Do you wear clothes? I bet you wear clothes. I wear clothes. Maybe that's the secret ingredient.  I ended up splurging on both them and the playdead emote last night when they announced they were going in the store.Gotta say, getting a lot of mileage out of playdead.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yeah pretty much. And 12 worship is so old no one can say anything beyond what the mythology says. Yeah, Twelve Worship was a thing at least as far back as the Third Astral Era. I mean, nothing's actually been said one way about it in the game.
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Freaksaus posted:Meanwhile, in Kugane wish theyd add the maid outfits to the shop or at least re release them in NA
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Rascyc posted:Supposedly the super savage is going to be an ff14 original. Should be some prelim news from Yoshida I think through some random interview. quote:Naoki Yoshida: Interview: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m6okFR8siR1fS47Nmm5YoB6CGQKUlCVSZpTYgueWOrA/edit?pageId=116256743700951463649 or the "MrHappy" YT version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58rQL4WNOqs
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Rascyc posted:Whoever was talking about an AST/SCH clear for Neo Exdeath here's the video of Unreal's kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJIu31pFCKc if people were still curious. Does anyone know what the parser skin that Jump is using, in bottom left? It looks like Rainbowmage default but with columns for crit/DH/maxdamage/deaths. I want it.
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So has anyone else just been hit randomly for 40k during O4N? Never had it happen before in any attempt until now. Killed 4 people outright which caused a wipe and then two the second attempt, and we salaved it. doesn't show up in the combat log for any of us and ACT lists it as an "unknown source" very strange.
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cheetah7071 posted:Isn't the Garlean position that the twelve are dimly remembered primals that haven't been summoned in a really long time? That seems fairly plausible, that's basically what half the primals we see are for beast tribes The 12 being ancient beings of great power and not being primals wouldn't be new. The elementals of Gridania aren't primals (in theory). You also have the great wyrms like Midgarsorymr and Nidhogg. Hell, the 12 could've been ascians for all we know considering that to a normal person they'd be pretty godlike.
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MotU posted:wish theyd add the maid outfits to the shop or at least re release them in NA Kind of surprising they haven't dropped them on the shop though. Or let you store them in the armoire or get them from the reclaim shop or something.
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