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dsa praxis's full website is up and spoilers, it's good. https://dsapraxis.org/
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Baby Babbeh posted:He's been pretty consistent showing up for the past few weeks. I mean, obviously he has alterior motives but I don't think he'd put that much into it if he wasn't at least somewhat sincere. Maybe I'm naive. So when he runs and doesn't get DSA support he can pull out "I'm an active member of the DSA and they can't even show up for one of their own!" excuse to pressure them. One of his staffers pulled some lame poo poo after crashing the Bay area delegates meeting despite definitely not being a delegate or invited and cheesed off a few folks with some performative antics. Vhak lord of hate has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Impermanent posted:dsa praxis's full website is up and spoilers, it's good. https://dsapraxis.org/ Holy poo poo that is good. I know what I'm lobbying my local to vote for.
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Impermanent posted:dsa praxis's full website is up and spoilers, it's good. https://dsapraxis.org/ this owns. i'd love a plank about running candidates but thats probably asking too much
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Raskolnikov38 posted:this owns. i'd love a plank about running candidates but thats probably asking too much yeah other than that praxis seems extremely better than momentum edit: to clarify though, other than generally knowing what's going on, this only matters for delegates, right? non delegates get no votes?
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RL Stephens is good people, Praxis gets points for that alone.
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big black turnout posted:this only matters for delegates, right? non delegates get no votes? Yes, but how your delegates vote may not yet be set in stone. For example, my local has a meeting next week where we're voting on general guidelines for our delegates, and we'll be trusting them to vote proportionally (i.e. if something goes 66% to 34% we expect two thirds of our delegates to vote the one way and one third to vote the other way). Depending on how your chapter is set up, you might still be able to express your desire to see your delegates back a given platform and/or slate; if you're not sure, definitely ask either your leadership committee or someone else you can contact that might know.
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the best part is that the Momentum and Praxis slates aren't really directly opposing each other, meaning that you/your local's reps can pick and choose which people/parts of the slates they want (because both have really good points and I support)
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I do not understand what the major differences are between momentum and praxis
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we just have an single at large delegate for wyoming which is a significant improvement over last years delegate, who was a pile of tumbleweed wearing a bolo tie
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Larry Parrish posted:I don't have a local so i haven't even looked at them same but i have 
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is there any rule against a dog being on the organizing committee? edit: I meant to say a person elected to a local Democratic party position, not dog
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big black turnout posted:is there any rule against a dog being on the organizing committee? does the dog pay dues?
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fermun posted:does the dog pay dues? she pays what she can dig up but sometimes has a ruff time
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:which group? Conflict resolution. He said he's done over 500 mediations and has experience in training people in mediation and if the group is interested he can help train. She didn't get to be your proxy for much in the end, there was a hangup with passing the criminal justice committee, they had some language in their charter regarding the committee's ability to kick people out of the committee that people wanted more clarification on and then there were a few amendments from the floor so we had to push all bylaw votes to next meeting because of it.
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an actual dog posted:I do not understand what the major differences are between momentum and praxis with enough praxis you can get the icarus flight system
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attn all of you jabronis in the STL chapter: pm me
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color me pleased to see R.L. on Praxis, but I didn't expect two folks from Anchorage, Alaska on there too. My hometown isn't exactly a breeding ground for communist sympathies, though it does trend socially liberal
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I joined the DSA and I cant wait to tell people I'm a card carrying socialist
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Taintrunner posted:I joined the DSA and I cant wait to tell people I'm a card carrying socialist that card took half a year to get to me, good luck.
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fermun posted:there was a hangup with passing the criminal justice committee, they had some language in their charter regarding the committee's ability to kick people out of the committee that people wanted more clarification on and then there were a few amendments from the floor so we had to push all bylaw votes to next meeting because of it. ah I think I left just as that was kicking off! thanks for letting me know 
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if you consider yourself an anarchist, LibCom, AnCom, LibSoc, Communalist, Democratic Confederalist, Apoist or other anti-authoritarian leftist, the NEW DSA LibSoc caucus is interested in you! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf5vVimO2JC6HbBzqynphMymv5Bh7MnZK5LuEIcRtubVNPjww/viewform (Us anarchists coined and used the word "libertarian" first, before the right-libertarians stole it and turned it into junk.)
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:if you consider yourself an anarchist, LibCom, AnCom, LibSoc, Communalist, Democratic Confederalist, Apoist or other anti-authoritarian leftist, the NEW DSA LibSoc caucus is interested in you! This poo poo... let's just say it tickles my pickle.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:this owns. i'd love a plank about running candidates but thats probably asking too much probably won't happen. I know at least one member doesn't prioritize electoral work at all.
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This is a dumb question, but what are Momentum and Praxis? Are they the two directions the DSA might take for the future or what?
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they're slates of people running for the national political committee with different visions of where to take DSA's new growth. Praxis is oriented around organizing a mass movement by investing in chapter's ability to local organizing, while Momentum wants to take us towards a more cadre approach with less members that are more active.
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Impermanent posted:they're slates of people running for the national political committee with different visions of where to take DSA's new growth. Praxis is oriented around organizing a mass movement by investing in chapter's ability to local organizing, while Momentum wants to take us towards a more cadre approach with less members that are more active. because having a small group of people advocating socialism has done so much in the past 30 years  e: not directed at you, I just feel like some of momentum's ideas are a good way to, ironically, kill the DSA's momentum
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Momentum's approach is very... Leninist. Probably because I think they're all Leninists. ChickenOfTomorrow posted:if you consider yourself an anarchist, LibCom, AnCom, LibSoc, Communalist, Democratic Confederalist, Apoist or other anti-authoritarian leftist, the NEW DSA LibSoc caucus is interested in you! How fast do you folks need a turnaround for those of us that aren't delegates? I have to dig up that confirmation email.
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big black turnout posted:because having a small group of people advocating socialism has done so much in the past 30 years Maybe I don't understand how slates work or maybe DSA is taking a different approach, but I thought I had seen a delegate mention that people could vote for different candidates from different slates giving a strong and strange possibility of leadership that's a mix of multiple slates.
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I will also note for the purposes of intellectual honesty that momentum's stated goal is not "reduce our size" but the majority of their policies virtually guarantee that (including the 1% income dues.)
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Impermanent posted:yeah the slates aren't that big so there's a real possibility that all members of both slates could join the NPC. I find the possibility of that even more exciting. Whatever direction DSA goes in, I'm here for it and it's actually giving me a shred of hope in general.
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Impermanent posted:I will also note for the purposes of intellectual honesty that momentum's stated goal is not "reduce our size" but the majority of their policies virtually guarantee that (including the 1% income dues.) Is this 1% income thing gonna be enforced at all tho? I mean already do more than that just naturally.
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R.L.'s got a new article in Jacobin. https://jacobinmag.com/2017/07/housing-poverty-freddie-gray-racism-black-panther-party-baltimore
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