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Terrible Opinions posted:Well if we're talking about the books at least two of the major male characters, Theon and Aeron, are traumatized by serial rape. Life sucks for literally everyone, male rape is just kept secret rather than openly threatened. Which of course plays into the whole "patriarchy sucks" angle. Patriarchal expectations are masculinity heavily harm male rape victims and impede any attempt to recover.
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danger-carpet posted:blackpill You've sussed it out, that guy who wanted the government to assign him a girlfriend was secretly the King of Academia. He rules from his ivory tower
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Dark Enlightenment Operative #1: How shall we subvert the Cathedral o brother? Dark Enlightenment Operative #2: I have written several mildly popular fantasy novels, and shall publish the work of obscure philosophy students on my blog Dark Enlightenment Operative #1: *Cackles evilly* Dark Enlightenment Operative #2: *Cackles even more evilly* Wesley Morganston: *falls off blimp*
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You're literally describing Nick Land so I don't see your point?
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Jul 19, 2017 18:32
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danger-carpet posted:You're literally describing Nick Land so I don't see your point? Also Terry Goodkind, Theodore Beale, Matt Bracken, and Tom Kratman.
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danger-carpet posted:You're literally describing Nick Land so I don't see your point? Nick Land self-destructed and ran far, far, far, away from academia Also in the likelihood that you're my past self and are posting things that depress or scare you on the internet in places in the hopes that someone will tell you they suck and make you feel a bit better, I just want you to know that this will pass and I support you.
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I saw the link to R. Scott Bakker's blog, is he Dark Enlightenment/Alt-Right now? I read the first two and a half books in his Prince of Nothing series when they came out and that guy's got some seriously messed up ideas but he never struck me as going down that path. Not that it would surprise me, mind you, if he did.
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Azathoth posted:I saw the link to R. Scott Bakker's blog, is he Dark Enlightenment/Alt-Right now? No, carpets just has a crush
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I'd be disappointed if Bakker went fash. I like his writing a lot.
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ikanreed posted:A monarch would protect the freedom of the market! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/19/despot-disguise-democracy-james-mcgill-buchanan-totalitarian-capitalism Article about James McGill Buchanan posted:Any clash between “freedom” (allowing the rich to do as they wish) and democracy should be resolved in favour of freedom. In his book The Limits of Liberty, he noted that “despotism may be the only organisational alternative to the political structure that we observe.” Despotism in defence of freedom."
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It shouldn't be necessary to point out that anime fans, New Atheists, gamergaters, "gamers", MRAs, black metal fans, LessWrongian rationalists, antinatalists, transhumanists, incels, techbros, /b/tards, and Cingulate, have all been variously lumped in with the alt-right/DE/nRx at various points ITT. It's a little late to start policing who is and isn't part of this loosely defined target of mockery. The classification isn't completely arbitrary because all of these groups share a mindset, and it's appropriate to hold up slightly less extreme examples of that mindset for further analysis, IMO, in addition to simply laughing at the lunatic fringe.
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Anyway,Scott Bakker posted:“Where’s the doom?” is a question I’ve been asked many times. The first problem has to do with the simple idea of consigning the sum of human speculation on the human to superstition. I think this is a stupendous tragedy in and of itself, but probably inevitable. Scott Bakker posted:I met a philosophy PhD student from Mississippi who was also an avowed nihilist. Given my own heathen, positivistic past, I took it upon myself to convert the poor fool. He was just an adolescent, after all–time to set aside childish thoughts! So I launched into an account of my own sorry history and how I had been saved by Heidegger and the ontological difference. Scott Bakker posted:
Scott Bakker posted:To me, anyway, BBT seems to suggest that the sciences of animal husbandry will likely prove to have the best models of our political future.
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danger-carpet posted:It shouldn't be necessary to point out that anime fans, quote:"gamers" quote:, MRAs quote:, black metal fans quote:LessWrongian rationalists quote:antinatalists quote:, transhumanists quote:, incels quote:, techbros, quote:/b/tards quote:Cingulate He's not DE he's just a contrarian weirdo
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I mean I've never personally met a transhumanist who wasn't at least a bit fash... The Vosgian Beast posted:He's not DE he's just a contrarian weirdo Yeah the closest he comes is when he was reading Scott because he's "always wrong in interesting ways" or whatever.
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ate all the Oreos posted:I mean I've never personally met a transhumanist who wasn't at least a bit fash... Yeah, unfortunately transhumanism is Thiel, Kurzweil and freezing your brain these days.
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:I'd be disappointed if Bakker went fash. I like his writing a lot. Black demon seed
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danger-carpet posted:Anyway, I love this. A nihilist chastising another nihilist for using value judgments too much, while continuing to pontificate about what "should" happen. Yud gonna try to free his AI-in-a-box and find out it was a beetle all along
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ate all the Oreos posted:I mean I've never personally met a transhumanist who wasn't at least a bit fash... same and the only exceptions are the anarchist and socialist transhumanists. the only people to put transhumanist thought in a good framing imo, unlike the garbage heap that is kurzweil, thiel, yudkowsky etc.
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Fututor Magnus posted:same and the only exceptions are the anarchist and socialist transhumanists. the only people to put transhumanist thought in a good framing imo, unlike the garbage heap that is kurzweil, thiel, yudkowsky etc. The anarchists and the socialists were what I was thinking of
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quote:Transhumanism was invented sometime between "I wish I had kickass rad claws like that sabretooth" and "I bet I could use this rock as prosthetic fist." I think that some people can't accept that there are already humans whose bodies are part-machine, have been for thousands of years, and it is mostly used to keep sick people from dying early and help injured people live normal lives, as opposed to making the wealthy and powerful into immortal gods (although that's where the funding traditionally comes from). I understand what they mean by "transhumanism" but I think it's just a matter of degree and most people already qualify, so it's almost always used by people seeking immortality, not the ones who are literally enhancing life by integrating machines into the human body to, say, help the crippled walk and bring sight to the blind.
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The one person I know who I'd call a transhumanist who's not a fascist or otherwise a horrible person is a transwoman who just wants a new ladybody, though she recognizes that it's probably not going to happen in her lifetime (but it's nice to think about)
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Transhumanist trans women makes more sense than the primitivist trans woman phenomenon that apparently exists, to be fair.
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TinTower posted:Transhumanist trans women makes more sense than the primitivist trans woman phenomenon that apparently exists, to be fair. I am sure I am going to regret asking this but, could you elaborate?
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Apparently an increasing proportion of trans women are becoming primitivists and I don't get it either?
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TinTower posted:Apparently an increasing proportion of trans women are becoming primitivists and I don't get it either? I more meant if there was any literature, but fair enough.
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ate all the Oreos posted:The one person I know who I'd call a transhumanist who's not a fascist or otherwise a horrible person is a transwoman who just wants a new ladybody, though she recognizes that it's probably not going to happen in her lifetime (but it's nice to think about) https://twitter.com/AndriErlingsson/status/884196389831495680
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To be honest, I'm into transhumanism just for the tentacle vag. Speaking of which, thread darling and Good Opinion Haver Contra just released a short art film about zir gender dysphoria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayuqizp4fyY The XGP scene. 
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TinTower posted:To be honest, I'm into transhumanism just for the tentacle vag. Well that was certainly one person's journey of self-discovery  Seriously though keep on being you Contrapoints
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TinTower posted:Apparently an increasing proportion of trans women are becoming primitivists and I don't get it either?
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DarklyDreaming posted:Well that was certainly one person's journey of self-discovery I love these anti-alt right youtube community that seems to be entirely made of highly polished loving about that still comes off looking more professional and sensible than the people they're mocking. It's delightful.
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Speaking of anti-alt-right YouTubers, Kevin Logan's channel is missing today, what's up with that? He's my favorite to listen to at work (not a judgment of quality per se, but I just enjoy his voice and style) and that was a surprise.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I love these anti-alt right youtube community that seems to be entirely made of highly polished loving about that still comes off looking more professional and sensible than the people they're mocking. It's delightful. It turns out that the side that doesn't reject film theory as cultural marxist propaganda ends up being a bit better at video editing.
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It's interesting how Lindsay Ellis has come a long way in the past ten years. Her latest video on cultural appropriation and Disney shows her rhetoric, theory, and editing has come a long way since she did the Pocahontas review for TGWTG.pookel posted:Speaking of anti-alt-right YouTubers, Kevin Logan's channel is missing today, what's up with that? He's my favorite to listen to at work (not a judgment of quality per se, but I just enjoy his voice and style) and that was a surprise. Flagged and suspended.
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Goon Danton posted:It turns out that the side that doesn't reject film theory as cultural marxist propaganda ends up being a bit better at video editing. I did just ban someone from spamming the RW Facebook messaging service with Islamophobic bile by suggesting he make a 75 minute video ranting about how we banned him because we couldn't cope with his truth droppin'
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Probably reading into this way too much but based on Contrapoints' new video I hope she is not expecting transitioning to curb the drinking and drug use she alludes to in previous videos.
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https://twitter.com/WokePhrenology/status/888502580560744448 E: https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/888184083238576128 mathematics as a field is what threatens the establishment and not anything else. though that's actually what rev and other reactos believe, that anything that isn't STEM is cathedral brainwashing. see also, sargon wanting to ban social justice courses and all that. funnily enough, all the actual mathematicians i know (and i mean real matematicians, not reactionary STEMlords or shills for neoliberalism) would consider it a travesty if universities stopped teaching humanities and the social sciences, which is something real republicans and conservatives worldwide want to enact as policy btw. Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 09:59 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Does... does this person not realize that HRT costs a lot of money...
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ate all the Oreos posted:Does... does this person not realize that HRT costs a lot of money... They probably believe it's provided to you free by the extensive welfare state America totally has
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The Vosgian Beast posted:They probably believe it's provided to you free by the extensive welfare state America totally has Yeah the military will transition you for free haven't you heard: https://twitter.com/FRCAction/status/888035819637932035
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