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Like, if nothing else Cat is like a warning sign for what could be awaiting Jon. His body won't be as hosed, but his mind will have to change in some way. Even if he staves off the worst of it by his mind being in Ghost's body, I'm sure dying and becoming a wolf for a while will mess him up somehow. At the very least we'll have people freaked out by him being alive again, rather than acting like he took a power nap.
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To be fair, I doubt ravens even were sent out before he was resurrected(Thorne didn't seem so big on transparency or open communication), so no one outside of Castle Black even knew he'd died. IIRC there hadn't been a formal election yet, so there was no reason to send out an announcement that "hey, we committed mutiny here!" I'd imagine a lot of people who hear he died and came back just take it as a baseless rumor or exaggeration. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Ague Proof posted:It's nerdy as hell but I want to read the Blackfyre theory being confirmed. Which theory is that?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I love how even if WoW comes out it just means another 5 year wait at minimum for A Dream of Spring. And that's a conservative estimate considering he's now taken 6 years to finish a book that's like 25% composed of poo poo that was already written and cut from the last book. And I'd bet my house that GRRM either officially gives up or dies before then. He's already given up lmao
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It's a ghoulish observation to make my dudes, but TBH Gurm's death would probably speed up the release timeline of the last two books.
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If you read the first word of every paragraph of wild cards then you'll see that twow has been out for years
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I just can't believe that writing a drat book is more difficult than being a Jets fan.
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I started reading the books only after seeing the first season of the TV show. I can't imagine how the wait has felt to anyone who has been reading the series for a way longer time.
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TeaJay posted:I started reading the books only after seeing the first season of the TV show. I can't imagine how the wait has felt to anyone who has been reading the series for a way longer time. Bad
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TeaJay posted:I started reading the books only after seeing the first season of the TV show. I can't imagine how the wait has felt to anyone who has been reading the series for a way longer time. There are people who started reading this series when they were just entering middle age who are dead of old age now.
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At this rate, we all will be dying of old age before the series is finished.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:There are people who started reading this series when they were just entering middle age who are dead of old age now. The author?
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I don't even remember what happened in the WoW teaser chapters that have been released other than that Sansa one that was good. WoW gonna suck. Nothing will happen, and then GRRM will decide ADOS should be two books and then die.
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PostNouveau posted:I don't even remember what happened in the WoW teaser chapters that have been released other than that Sansa one that was good. The damphair chapter was rad fuk u
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^ Another thing I look forward to seeing more of, book Greyjoys.
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WrightOfWay posted:Which theory is that? Theory goes: Blackfyres lose and their male line is extinguished with the death of Maelys the Monstrous at the Stepstones. A Blackfyre woman marries Illyrio Mopatis, whose son is masquerading as Aegon VI. Also, Varys is a Blackfyre descendant and that's why he shaves his head and is working with Illyrio so closely and confidently in getting Aegon the throne.
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Specifically Varys is a matrilineal Blackfyre like his dad was not BF but his mom was BF
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Apoplexy posted:Theory goes: Blackfyres lose and their male line is extinguished with the death of Maelys the Monstrous at the Stepstones. A Blackfyre woman marries Illyrio Mopatis, whose son is masquerading as Aegon VI. Also, Varys is a Blackfyre descendant and that's why he shaves his head and is working with Illyrio so closely and confidently in getting Aegon the throne. Also why Varys' dick would have been useful to perform sorcery with.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:There are people who started reading this series when they were just entering middle age who are dead of old age now. In one of the Bad Threads we went through and talked about all that has changed in our lives between Tyrion chapters. That was years and years ago though. Might be fun to talk about whats changed since the last book came out since its almost been another decade.
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I unironically want to know if the Iron Bank has to cut their losses and write off Westeros or if they finally back someone who can mitigate their bad lending decisions.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I unironically want to know if the Iron Bank has to cut their losses and write off Westeros or if they finally back someone who can mitigate their bad lending decisions. It supported Euron and bought him 1000 ships. Their pollsters are really bad at predicting Westerosi politics.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I unironically want to know if the Iron Bank has to cut their losses and write off Westeros or if they finally back someone who can mitigate their bad lending decisions.
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Apoplexy posted:Theory goes: Blackfyres lose and their male line is extinguished with the death of Maelys the Monstrous at the Stepstones. A Blackfyre woman marries Illyrio Mopatis, whose son is masquerading as Aegon VI. Also, Varys is a Blackfyre descendant and that's why he shaves his head and is working with Illyrio so closely and confidently in getting Aegon the throne. Other fun and at least partially supported by the text book theories (courtesy of Preston Jacobs on Youtube): Jon Snow actually is the bastard of Ned and Ashara Dayne, and it was Dany that Ned rescued from the Tower of Joy, and the house with the red door and lemon trees was in Dorne not Braavos as she believes. (Obviously not true in the book universe) Ned convinced Ashara to swap Dany with Jon when he went to Starfall after the Tower of Joy, and the promise he made to Lyanna was to protect Dany. Quentyn Martell was meant to fail, and Doran was lying to him about almost everything, but the good news is he's not dead and may have even stolen one of Dany's dragons. Qyburn is a deep-cover Martell catspaw and a major player in a decades long conspiracy organized by Oberyn and Doran to take down the Lannisters and engineer a Rhoynish restoration and implementation of Dornish Law across the Seven Kingdoms. (The Brave Companions are likely the same sellsword company that Oberyn founded when he was travelling Essos.) My favorite is that Sweetrobin (AKA Robert Arryn Jr.) is a telepath of comparable power to any of the Stark children, and his illness is primarily the product of Children of the Forest consciousnesses in the Weirwood throne of the Eyrie attempting to possess and influence him. His unhealthy obsession with his mother and later Sansa may be not be purely psychological, the telepathy/warg powers of Sansa (and Lysa, since they both come from families with telepath/warg powers) may be helpful in resisting the influence of the spirits of the Eyrie. Sansa gets many of the same symptoms that Robert does when she's in the Eyrie, and he specifically says that when he sleeps with Sansa he doesn't experience any of the symptoms that haunt him otherwise. Robert is also given insanely large doses of Sweetsleep regularly, a drug also used by Maester Luwin to stop Bran's wolf dreams. Thing is that he's being given doses so large that if the potency of the drug is accurately described in a Tyrion chapter it should've killed Robert a long time ago. ATP_Power fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I unironically want to know if the Iron Bank has to cut their losses and write off Westeros or if they finally back someone who can mitigate their bad lending decisions. The iron throne has more or less solidified as a permanent institution so the iron bank will be paid back in time. May take 1000 years but think of all that interest!
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L O loving L https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/888346504527826944
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HACKS THEY'RE HACKS
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That interview is a master class of not actually answering any hard questions. God drat it's going to be a shitshow.
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Either that or the show will loving suck lol
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Yeah they put out a press release yesterday about all the criticism, and they only said "Don't judge it before you see it" and "This can't be litigated over Twitter." Not at all reassuring.
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Well I mean at least it can't be worse than the actual, literal Civil War!
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esperterra posted:Like, if nothing else Cat is like a warning sign for what could be awaiting Jon. His body won't be as hosed, but his mind will have to change in some way. Even if he staves off the worst of it by his mind being in Ghost's body, I'm sure dying and becoming a wolf for a while will mess him up somehow. He'll start eating uncooked meat and die of mad cow disease
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Shelby Foote is a great military historian but is seriously lackluster when it comes to all the political events, which ultimately are infinitely more important to understanding the Civil War. He's also a borderline Lost Causer. So this doesn't bode well.
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For no particular reason, let's have a throwback to one of the better pieces of acting from last season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZVlQr4sWTQ
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Shelby Foote is a great military historian but is seriously lackluster when it comes to all the political events, which ultimately are infinitely more important to understanding the Civil War. He's also a borderline Lost Causer. The very fact that the CSA has somehow maintained parity with the Union in their universe does not bode well
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ATP_Power posted:(and Lysa, since they both come from families with telepath/warg powers) may be helpful in resisting the influence of the spirits of the Eyrie. But Lysa is a Tully, not a Stark, and the Tullys don't have furryvision powers.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Shelby Foote is a great military historian but is seriously lackluster when it comes to all the political events, which ultimately are infinitely more important to understanding the Civil War. He's also a borderline Lost Causer. I thought I saw or read somewhere that Foote thinks the north basically beat the south with one arm tied behind it's back. That had the north not been dealing with other poo poo at the same time it would have been a much shorter war. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Iw-j217yk
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Phi230 posted:The very fact that the CSA has somehow maintained parity with the Union in their universe does not bode well No you see this agricultural society that had almost no infrastructure could absolutely keep up with an industrialized nation for 150 years.
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