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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Doorknob Slobber posted:

I stick by saying though that porn in general isn't as much a fantasy as many people seem to imply. There are women who enjoy anal, there are men who enjoy anal too and they probably like to get their rear end destroyed on the regular. I'm sure there are men and women who enjoy rear end to mouth and pretty much every thing else you can think of. Sure accessibility to a wide variety of porn is fairly new, but accessibility to porn didn't invent all the kinky stuff.

porn is definitely a fantasy, which is fine for adults, but is not the way to introduce teens to sex. this isn't about prudishly trying to shield your kids from the horrors of a sinful world, this is about teaching teenagers that healthy sexual relationships don't typically move into getting your rear end destroyed. it's the same as telling a little boy that gi joe is a made up cartoon and thus it's not ok to attack his siblings with lasers and chokeholds, this is not how typical people behave on the regular

Doorknob Slobber posted:

Apparently people think the best way to teach your children about sexuality is to lie to them and tell them that porn doesn't portray 'real sex', that porn turns teenage boys into rapists and that porn somehow "fucks up your head and ruins relationships". I mean speak for yourself on those three things I guess?

There is a lot of research that shows why lying to your children is actually a bad thing(have an article), even if you think you're doing it for 'good' reasons. The big ones are that as soon as your child catches you in a lie they no longer trust your advice on anything and that it makes it ok for them to lie back to you.

i think telling teens that porn is in any way realistic is lying to your childen. porn is a fantasy, it is meant entirely to appeal to the sexual fantasies of masturbating adults. treating it like it's good material for sex education produces bad sexual attitudes in younger, sexually inexperienced people

this statement should in no way be construed as an argument against porn or sexual education. but if you're telling your kids that teen squirter assblasters 9 is basically solid sex moves to try out with your hookup buddy you're damaging your kids

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bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?

Miranda posted:

What're your tricks and tips for vacation with baby?? 6 month old. Going not far to the beach for a few days.

Pack a very small blow up pool. The one we have is actually a little ball pit with inflatable walls but it serves the same purpose. You can use it as a makeshift baby bath if the place you're staying only has a shower (my kid freaks out in showers), a little playpen, or as a little splash pool if kiddo is not liking the ocean. It takes up barely any room in your suitcase and it's pretty useful. Or at least, I found it to be :)

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

BonoMan posted:

Quit trying to switch the argument. It's not about "is people lying to their kids ok?" It's "is porn a realistic style of sex and is it healthy to base your developing sexual mindset on that?" I think the general consensus is that while, yes, some folks do like it like you see in porn... the general feeling is that it's disrespectful to women and can be quite aggressive in nature.

And not that it's *bad* to want to have sex like they do in porn... but that maybe it's not a healthy foundation as it can lead to traumatic situations for your partner who is also going through sexual development as well.

You're switching the argument here, let me requote how it started:

Careful Drums posted:

I'm just young enough to have been a little hosed-up-in-the-head by internet porn at a young age (6th grade) so while I agree with your general approach I can't help but think a little more fire-and-brimstone "porn will gently caress up your head and ruin relationships throughout your teenage years" speech would be more appropriate. But idk. I have some time to think it over.

No, there is no evidence porn fucks up anyone in the head or ruins anyone's relationships.

Then I asked why this dude would lie to his child:

boner confessor posted:

porn is super unrealistic. it's critical to tell your kids that porn is not what real sex is like, it's not accurate

Cut down to the good parts because, lol. So specifically should you lie to your children and tell them that the sex in porn isn't real? Because it is, the sex in porn is the most realistic portrayal of sex you will probably be subjected to until you have sex or walk in on your parents in their gimp suits or whatever. I know goons are super depraved and I guess watch almost entirely the worst kind of porn, but not all porn is rear end to mouth domination horse porn or whatever. When you're teaching things to your children you should be as honest as possible, keeping in mind appropriateness of the situation and their age. Not only will having real honest conversations about porn and sex and relationships and everything else I guess make it so that they trust you more when you say things to them, it makes it more likely that they will come to you when they need help, it teaches them instead of keeping them in the dark, and it makes them more likely to be honest with especially in situations where they might need your help.

To tie this in with keeping your child safe sexually, which I think is a concern with some of the things people have brought up, my wife works with children who've been sexually abused and she's constantly reminding me that, the best way to prevent your children from being abused is to keep them educated in an honest and informed way. If you have an honest and open dialogue with your child if something does happen they're more likely to tell you as soon as it happens and they're even more likely to speak up and prevent it from happening in the first place. Lying about things like drugs or sex or anything else erodes that trust over time to the point where kids can be abused for months or years at a time before they ever tell anyone and in the end they will tell a friend or counselor or teacher long before they tell their parents. The sexuality surrounding porn is a conversation that needs to be honest and include things like consent.

To summarize my thoughts though because they've become a bit rambling and disjointed. The things that happen in porn do actually happen during 'real sex' (consensually) far more often in reality than people here seem to be implying. Lying to your children can gently caress up how much they trust you and can lead to real harm.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Doorknob Slobber posted:

Cut down to the good parts because, lol. So specifically should you lie to your children and tell them that the sex in porn isn't real? Because it is, the sex in porn is the most realistic portrayal of sex you will probably be subjected to until you have sex or walk in on your parents in their gimp suits or whatever.

jesus christ

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Doorknob Slobber posted:



To summarize my thoughts though because they've become a bit rambling and disjointed. The things that happen in porn do actually happen during 'real sex' (consensually) far more often in reality than people here seem to be implying. Lying to your children can gently caress up how much they trust you and can lead to real harm.

Nobody is saying they don't happen, jfc, just that it's not the "average" sex and is probably not the best foundation. It's something people build up to or explore on their own. Nobody is saying try to pretend it doesn't exist and sweep it under the rug. But maybe not start with "when a man and a woman love each other very much, the man puts her ankles behind his ears."

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
timmy, i know that you're a young man and you're curious, so it's time you and your mother and i had a little talk about the birds and the bees. first, this is called a hitachi magic wand and this is how you use it... *puts well worn copy of latina gangbang mamacitas into dvd player*

KingColliwog
May 15, 2003

Let's go droogs

bee posted:

Pack a very small blow up pool. The one we have is actually a little ball pit with inflatable walls but it serves the same purpose. You can use it as a makeshift baby bath if the place you're staying only has a shower (my kid freaks out in showers), a little playpen, or as a little splash pool if kiddo is not liking the ocean. It takes up barely any room in your suitcase and it's pretty useful. Or at least, I found it to be :)

That's freaking genius

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

boner confessor posted:

timmy, i know that you're a young man and you're curious, so it's time you and your mother and i had a little talk about the birds and the bees. first, this is called a hitachi magic wand and this is how you use it... *puts well worn copy of latina gangbang mamacitas into dvd player*

Haha for all the parts of the porn that supposedly aren't real you pick clitoral stimulation with a vibrator? oh boy

It all makes sense now.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
loving goons talking about porn in a parenting thread it all makes sense

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Doorknob Slobber posted:

So specifically should you lie to your children and tell them that the sex in porn isn't real? Because it is, the sex in porn is the most realistic portrayal of sex you will probably be subjected to until you have sex or walk in on your parents in their gimp suits or whatever. I know goons are super depraved and I guess watch almost entirely the worst kind of porn, but not all porn is rear end to mouth domination horse porn or whatever

This entire line of conversation came up because someone mentioned how simple it is to find the most depraved kind of porn even by accident. Also asserting that telling pre-teens that deliberately staged and acted porn does not depict real life sexual relationships is a "lie and oh my god the worst thing you could possibly do is lie to your children you're all hosed up" is maybe swinging things too far in the other direction. You've gone a little overboard defending your experiences I think...also can't help but think you're applying adult logic to watching porn rather than really thinking how a child would view seeing these things for the first time

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Dumb children's names right now

McKenna
Jada
Luna

Miranda
Dec 24, 2004

Not a cuttlefish.

namaste faggots posted:

Dumb children's names right now

McKenna
Jada
Luna

I have taken care of at least 3 McKenna's this year alone.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

namaste faggots posted:

Dumb children's names right now

McKenna
Jada
Luna

Don't forget Bodhi.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Miranda posted:

I have taken care of at least 3 McKenna's this year alone.



:chanpop:

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
All three of these precious snowflakes were at the same park at the same time

ArmadilloConspiracy
Jan 15, 2010
We're finally moving the baby out of our room and into his own!

...and putting him in the crib is currently a daddy job, because I am 5'2" and can barely reach inside without bruising my ribs. :saddowns: Does anyone have a mindblowing lifehack/favorite kind of step stool to use on a hardwood floor?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
McKenna is a weird first name for a boy and an insane one for a girl.

Jada and Luna seem like perfectly fine names though.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

ArmadilloConspiracy posted:

We're finally moving the baby out of our room and into his own!

...and putting him in the crib is currently a daddy job, because I am 5'2" and can barely reach inside without bruising my ribs. :saddowns: Does anyone have a mindblowing lifehack/favorite kind of step stool to use on a hardwood floor?

A step stool. Do have those fuzzy slider things for your furniture? There you go, life hacked.

rgocs
Nov 9, 2011

GlyphGryph posted:

McKenna is a weird first name for a boy and an insane one for a girl.

Jada and Luna seem like perfectly fine names though.
Same.

Our son had a McKenna friend in preschool, girl, I thought it was a weird name, sounded more like a surname. It eventually became just another name, though.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
McKenna literally means male, its built into the name. Its so weird. If you wanted to make it a girls name why wouldnt you at least spell it without the part that means that? Like Mikenna or something.

That would be fine, but instead they are calling their daughter "son"?

Weird.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
We sleep-trained my daughter some time in fourth quarter last year, after she turned one. She's approaching two, and while she sleeps fine, she still almost always cries for a handful of minutes (usually less than ten) after we put her down. We've more or less gotten used to it, but it'd be nice for her not to be distressed every evening. What can we try to alleviate that?

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.

GlyphGryph posted:

McKenna literally means male, its built into the name. Its so weird. If you wanted to make it a girls name why wouldnt you at least spell it without the part that means that? Like Mikenna or something.

That would be fine, but instead they are calling their daughter "son"?

Weird.

No one looks at meanings for their children's names anymore. Some poo poo head parents are just trying to have little unique snowflakes anyway. I feel sorry for the Mikenna and Kyleigh of the world. I've got a very common name and I still have to spell it constantly and see it misspelled even when it's on my e-mail address or my signature or whatever. :sigh:

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
It's not a "looking at the meaning" thing so much as it's the particular formulation which - I mean, its not exactly difficult to recognize that it says "son of Kenny" without having to know what Kenny means. If I heard it by ear as a girls name, "Mikenna" is how I would naturally spell it since I'd assume it was actually an eastern European or Hebrew name and followed those norms. I just think its weird, but parents can name their kids whatever weird stuff they want, I don't really care.

Also, what exactly is wrong with the name Kyleigh? Isn't it a good, traditional name with a long history? Do you just not like old fashioned names/spellings and prefer one of the more "americanized" versions? I assume you also prefer girls named "Leigh" to have their name spelled Lee?

Anyway -

2 year olds in costumes is adorable. We have some of those wearable towels that look like animals, and he loves "becoming" the animal. Lobster towel? He puts it on, throws up his arms, and does a wide legged sideways walk around the house while pinching his fingers together and saying "crab crab". Shark costume? Roars and chasing and "biting off" parts of your body ensure. (he's very gentle though, thankfully, not actual bites.) Alligator is similar except he seems to think alligators make the sound "Why! Why!". Monster towel? Lots of stomping and knocking things off tables and knocking over block towers.

Kid loves it and it's so adorable, but I am a bit worried about him pulling a Hyperbole and Half at some point.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/10/menace.html - if you don't know what I mean.

GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jul 21, 2017

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007
You all are making me feel nervous about naming my baby. Any problems with Sloane, Quinn or Cecily? Will my kid be endlessly mocked by people who know too much about the history and meaning of names?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
I would like to suggest lakeynn

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.

GlyphGryph posted:

It's not a "looking at the meaning" thing so much as it's the particular formulation which - I mean, its not exactly difficult to recognize that it says "son of Kenny" without having to know what Kenny means. If I heard it by ear as a girls name, "Mikenna" is how I would naturally spell it since I'd assume it was actually an eastern European or Hebrew name and followed those norms. I just think its weird, but parents can name their kids whatever weird stuff they want, I don't really care.

Also, what exactly is wrong with the name Kyleigh? Isn't it a good, traditional name with a long history? Do you just not like old fashioned names/spellings and prefer one of the more "americanized" versions? I assume you also prefer girls named "Leigh" to have their name spelled Lee?

Anyway -

2 year olds in costumes is adorable. We have some of those wearable towels that look like animals, and he loves "becoming" the animal. Lobster towel? He puts it on, throws up his arms, and does a wide legged sideways walk around the house while pinching his fingers together and saying "crab crab". Shark costume? Roars and chasing and "biting off" parts of your body ensure. (he's very gentle though, thankfully, not actual bites.) Alligator is similar except he seems to think alligators make the sound "Why! Why!". Monster towel? Lots of stomping and knocking things off tables and knocking over block towers.

Kid loves it and it's so adorable, but I am a bit worried about him pulling a Hyperbole and Half at some point.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/10/menace.html - if you don't know what I mean.

Until you said what it meant, I had 0 clue McKenna meant Son of Kenna. Most don't know random things like that unless they are from that particular country\have interest in it. Kyleigh was just a random exhausted stab at these bullshit snowflake names we get like Jaxton. Name your kid what you want.

Just saying that the more "unique" it is, the more the child will have to spell it at every single step of their life, possibly multiple times a day. As I mentioned, I get my name misspelled every day. It's Jon. How hard is that? Instead, I get John CONSTANTLY. It's frustrating to see 0 care taken to get someone's name right when it's brain dead simple. Now imagine a McKenna or a Jaxton which is far less common in the US. That's my point really. My preference for names is pretty much "Is this going to be frustrating for the child getting it?".



extravadanza posted:

You all are making me feel nervous about naming my baby. Any problems with Sloane, Quinn or Cecily? Will my kid be endlessly mocked by people who know too much about the history and meaning of names?

If someone gives your kid poo poo about their name, they're being a turbo nerd and need to go gently caress off somewhere. In the deep southern US, I see A LOT of uniquely spelled names. Mostly, as said above, I just feel bad cause that kid will be constantly spelling it or correcting it.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
I plan on letting mine pick his name eventually so I am looking forward to how terrible and unique it will be

nyerf
Feb 12, 2010

An elephant never forgets...TO KILL!
I met a kid named "J" once. You can't argue that that's hard to spell

Rurutia
Jun 11, 2009

Irritated Goat posted:

Until you said what it meant, I had 0 clue McKenna meant Son of Kenna. Most don't know random things like that unless they are from that particular country\have interest in it. Kyleigh was just a random exhausted stab at these bullshit snowflake names we get like Jaxton. Name your kid what you want.

Just saying that the more "unique" it is, the more the child will have to spell it at every single step of their life, possibly multiple times a day. As I mentioned, I get my name misspelled every day. It's Jon. How hard is that? Instead, I get John CONSTANTLY. It's frustrating to see 0 care taken to get someone's name right when it's brain dead simple. Now imagine a McKenna or a Jaxton which is far less common in the US. That's my point really. My preference for names is pretty much "Is this going to be frustrating for the child getting it?".


If someone gives your kid poo poo about their name, they're being a turbo nerd and need to go gently caress off somewhere. In the deep southern US, I see A LOT of uniquely spelled names. Mostly, as said above, I just feel bad cause that kid will be constantly spelling it or correcting it.

Jon being spelled at John makes sense though because they're homophones and John is far more common...?

I have a SUPER common name with no homophones. Still have to spell it all day everyday. I don't think there's really anyway around it honestly.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

extravadanza posted:

You all are making me feel nervous about naming my baby. Any problems with Sloane, Quinn or Cecily? Will my kid be endlessly mocked by people who know too much about the history and meaning of names?

I was pretty high on Cecily (I think our version was Cicely) but was really pulling for Samara. Ended up compromising on Sonya but I like it and she can loving kick like a champ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1tsA26iZgg

I feel like we considered Sloane and both of us liked it and I can't for the life of me remember why we crossed it off.

As someone who has my fairly ethnic name misspelled one hundred percent of the time on Starbucks cups and for whom roll call in school was a hilarious mess, I just learned to roll with it and it was no big tragedy for me. I think people overstate that a lot and I would waaay rather have an ethnic or otherwise exotic name than a super common one that some idiot or another will invariably misspell at some point anyhow.

flashy_mcflash fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Jul 22, 2017

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
It's Bday+4. 1st night home and mummy is very tired and I'm watching the baby monitor at 1:25am to try and let her get some sleep.

I was given the monitor by a family member, but they all seem to have the same problem- THE CAMERA IS TILTED UP. Why would you design it like that? I've stuck it at the end of the Bassinet for tonight before I, dodgy up some horrible velco thing to keep it pointed at the kid, but at 1:25am in the morning this is unfathomable why you would design it that way.

pushpins
Sep 11, 2006


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https://youtu.be/1QN7fuatkAg I'm deleting YouTube from my son's ipad

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength
I wonder what percentage of humanity's total accumulated amount of data consists of versions of that loving finger family song.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
gently caress finger family

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
gently caress you both for getting that stuck in my head!

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.

Rurutia posted:

Jon being spelled at John makes sense though because they're homophones and John is far more common...?

I have a SUPER common name with no homophones. Still have to spell it all day everyday. I don't think there's really anyway around it honestly.

Yeah, it's just become a pet peeve for me since I try so hard to make sure I'm spelling people's names right. :shrug:


My son is kinda obsessed with fans :3: I turned his off a couple of nights ago because he was sleeping on his blanket and my wife told me he just babbled all morning pointing at his fan :3:

KingColliwog
May 15, 2003

Let's go droogs
So can you have 2 newborns and a 2 years old in a Yaris? Well yes you can.





Really happy we can postpone buying a minivan for a year or two. There's already enough spending going on with the new place, twins coming, etc. We just finished paying the Yaris and were expecting a few years without having to make a car payment

I can still use my normal driving position and my girlfriend is just slightly uncomfortable. The trunk is surprisingly huge so we can load a double stroller, umbrella stroller and enough luggage to go out for a weekend

DangerZoneDelux
Jul 26, 2006

I hope y'all are both 5 foot 1 or so because that looks really uncomfortable

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flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Groke posted:

I wonder what percentage of humanity's total accumulated amount of data consists of versions of that loving finger family song.

I got caught at work singing Jonny Jonny Yes Papa under my breath in the elevator after one particularly sleepless night. Why aren't the people responsible for these videos not officially on a list of enemy combatants

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