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mikael backlund i dont really need another centre but im also not just leaving this guy here. cheap (though needs an extension), makes everyone around him way better and is pretty good defensively. im sure ill find some wingers somewhere edit: I typed "backlund" "mikael" "bakl" "$3,575" and refreshed the spreadsheet cause i was sure he had been picked Verviticus fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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stab posted:I took a trip to finland on my phone i briefly considered ristolainen but he really cant do anything but play on the powerplay
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Jul 21, 2017 21:57
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Verviticus posted:i briefly considered ristolainen but he really cant do anything but play on the powerplay Ahem Excuse me HIITTTTZZZZZ, which makes him the perfect player for Bergevin
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Jul 21, 2017 22:13
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backlund is a most excellent pick
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Risto is all-around solid. He's without question a better player than any other Sabres D (who have better metrics)
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Jul 21, 2017 22:27
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Since we're into Round 6, we need to make a Round 5 consensus pick for Arabian Jesus. Maybe a RHD or G since those are two areas they're missing players in so far.
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Jul 21, 2017 22:46
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Risto is hard to gauge. Dude is a monster baby playing crazy heavy minutes he absolutely is not ready to play, but if he were playing sheltered minutes like most other guys his age he would probably be lauded as a future superstar.
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His head coaches, iirc Ron Rolston Ted Nolan Dan Bylsma I'm glad he's alive
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Jordan7hm posted:Risto is hard to gauge. Dude is a monster baby playing crazy heavy minutes he absolutely is not ready to play, but if he were playing sheltered minutes like most other guys his age he would probably be lauded as a future superstar. I had him as my backup in my phone in pick last round. Guy is good, but goes too often for the big hit which causes problems. Guy is only 22 though so has time to settle down some.
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Give the consensus guy a goalie imo. There's been a bit of a run on them.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Give the consensus guy a goalie imo. There's been a bit of a run on them. The stanley cup finalist goalie is still available
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i'm gonna take a bet on this guy rebounding on my favorite team and take Jordan Eberle
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stab posted:The stanley cup finalist goalie is still available i think that would be a reasonable pick for Consensus team, if everyone else agrees.
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its too early to pick goalies i didnt want to take canucks but im left with no choice, chris tanev come on down nobody is scoring against my team, ever i wont lie, i kinda dreamed of putting a guy like ristolainen with a guy like tanev but oh well
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Aye Doc posted:backlund is a most excellent pick in the process of picking him and also searching for him in the spreadsheet i deleted your granlund pick and replaced it with $3,575,000
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Jamwad Hilder posted:i think that would be a reasonable pick for Consensus team, if everyone else agrees. Highest ranking goalie still available. Good for me.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:i think that would be a reasonable pick for Consensus team, if everyone else agrees. Sure. Pekka Rinne to the consensus team, then. eXXon is up until 8:15 PM EST, followed by Habibi and lazerwolf.
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Verviticus posted:its too early to pick goalies I really like the structure of your team so far.
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Rask definitely should have went ahead of Andersen. Talbot too. There's a case to be made ahead of Schneider even, I debated for a while but I had Rask last draft.
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T-Bone posted:Rask definitely should have went ahead of Andersen. Talbot too. There's a case to be made ahead of Schneider even, I debated for a while but I had Rask last draft. Rask was average last year, is 30 and has 4 years at 7 million. Andersen's posted better numbers this year and last and is cheaper and younger. No clue why people are down on Andersen but Rask is not better. e: i should say Rask was a much better goalie than Andersen but he seems to be past his prime now. Technetium fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I really like the structure of your team so far. thanks! tkachuk - backstrom - x x - bergeron - x x - backlund - x slavin - x x - tanev average goalie hotshot prospect originally i wanted more offense but a bunch of players i value fell far enough that i didnt want to pass up on like, bergeron in the second round, so here we are. its gonna end being a team that really relies on one D and one C per pairing, which is fine by me. backstrom is the only worldbeater i have though so hopefully he can do all the scoring thats not done by committee Verviticus fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Technetium posted:Rask was average last year, is 30 and has 4 years at 7 million. Andersen's posted better numbers this year and last and is cheaper and younger. No clue why people are down on Andersen but Rask is not better. 30 is not past a goalie's prime, by a long shot
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Habibi and eXXon can both pick right now
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Yaya posted:Habibi and eXXon can both pick right now Habibi has until 10:15 AM EST, so yeah, we could be waiting for awhile (although I am hopeful this is not the case!). Afterwards lazerwolf and the quoted poster can go.
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Good morning! I'm going to reach slightly and take Andre Burakovsky. He hasn't cracked 40 points yet, but he had the 9th most TOI/GP of forwards on the Caps last season and still managed 35P in 64 GP, plus 6 in 13 in the playoffs. He's signed to a reasonable 3Mx2 year bridge contract and since the Caps lost a bunch of forwards he's due for a breakout season next year. Plus, I might actually be near the cap this time. That leaves me with: Huberdeau-Malkin Burakovsky-Duchene OEL-Carlson
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Technetium posted:Rask was average last year, is 30 and has 4 years at 7 million. Andersen's posted better numbers this year and last and is cheaper and younger. No clue why people are down on Andersen but Rask is not better. I think it's debatable that Rask is past his prime and we're also talking about the goalie with the all-time highest regular season save percentage. I may be underrating Andersen a bit based on his 5v5 numbers though.
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T-Bone posted:I think it's debatable that Rask is past his prime and we're also talking about the goalie with the all-time highest regular season save percentage. I may be underrating Andersen a bit based on his 5v5 numbers though. He also has much funnier meltdowns than Anderson.
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eXXon posted:Good morning! Crosses one off my list of players to get in the next round.
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Jordan7hm posted:30 is not past a goalie's prime, by a long shot It's when most start declining yes. T-Bone posted:I think it's debatable that Rask is past his prime and we're also talking about the goalie with the all-time highest regular season save percentage. I may be underrating Andersen a bit based on his 5v5 numbers though. Yeah I mean Rask has been amongst the elite during his career but back to back average seasons leave me wondering if he's ever going to be elite again or just a regular starter.
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Technetium posted:It's when most start declining yes. Patrick Roy came out of the lockout pretty rough and had two mediocre seasons before turning it back around. Hasek was pretty meh in Detroit for a few years there before being an absolute beast for Ottawa. Luongo had two pretty average seasons in 2012-14 and then three pretty good seasons. Tim Thomas's three year run bookended by Vezinas (with losing his job because he wasn't very good during that middle season). Etc Good goalies have mediocre seasons some times, for lots of reasons.
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agreed that hall of fame goaltenders sometimes don't follow the same curve
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Verviticus posted:agreed that hall of fame goaltenders sometimes don't follow the same curve Yeah. And Rask's sv% through his first 15000 minutes of play puts him in that clas.
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Am I correct that Derek Stepan is still available? If so, come on down, Monsieur Stepan.
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Jordan7hm posted:Yeah. And Rask's sv% through his first 15000 minutes of play puts him in that clas. i think you're overrating his career and i definitely wouldn't bank on him being a better choice than andersen for the length of their contracts
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This is a hot new take about things but I've heard that Goalies Are Voodoo.
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Verviticus posted:i think you're overrating his career and i definitely wouldn't bank on him being a better choice than andersen for the length of their contracts I might buy this argument with another goalie but Andersen has a single season with a save % above 920. His last two seasons, representing 50% of his body of work in the NHL, were barely better than Rask's "mediocre seasons". His other full season was slightly worse. Dude is a .918 goalie after about 5k shots and, other than goalies being voodoo, will probably not be more than that.
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Allow me to put on my homer hat. Rask is an elite goalie and a lot of his recent struggles, including this last season where he was league average at worst, stem from the fact that Boston has poor organizational depth at defense and goaltending. As a result he has to play a lot of minutes and the thinking is he's just exhausted. In fact, since the lockout he has played more regular season minutes than any goalie in the NHL. If you include the playoffs, only two goalies have played more time overall. Here's the breakdown and his rank for 2012-13 through 2016-17: Regular Season Stats GP: 293 (1st) Wins: 157 (2nd) Shots Against: 8096 (2nd) Saves: 7461 (2nd) Sv%: .9215 (10th) GAA: 2.2529 (5th) TOI: 16911:10 (1st) Shutouts: 27 (2nd) Playoffs GP: 40 (T-6th) Wins: 23 (T-4th) Shots Against: 1296 (5th) Saves: 1210 (5th) Sv%: .9336 (1st) GAA: 1.9687 (2nd) TOI: 2620:59 (5th) Shutouts: 5 (T-1st) Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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andersen is younger and 2m a year cheaper. even if i expected similar goaltending from the two, andersen hass more a more valuable contract
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There's nothing wrong with Andersen, but Rask is demonstrably better. I do understand not wanting him from a contract angle, though. He's expensive.
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Youre all missing the point He's a montreal canadien now The ultimate troll
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