|
Those look adequate to me.
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 07:18
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 04:38 |
|
|
Sorry, here's some content.
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 07:26
|
|
|
Ah, finally someone is accommodating me, the man with a bifurcated echidna penis.
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 11:12
|
|
|
Bozart posted:So I was looking for a drop cloth online and apparently I'm an idiot for using it to prevent paint spills, you should use it to make weird house umbrellas and curtains I used a drop cloth to make a slipcover for a chair. It was the cheapest and easiest way to get a really large piece of heavy duty cotton fabric, especially since I worked at a hardware store at the time. Anyway it turns out that I don't actually know how to make a slipcover that looks good in addition to covering a chair (not surprising since I just threw the the cloth over the chair and started cutting and sewing), but if I did I would use a drop cloth again.
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 13:32
|
|
|
WAAAAAAAAGGGHH! (should be painted red for best effect)
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 21:05
|
|
|
Red for fastest, green for da best.
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 21:42
|
|
|
TerminalSaint posted:Red for fastest, green for da best. Red for fastest, fastest for best. :orkbert:
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 22:39
|
|
|
kid sinister posted:Toronto man builds slapdash stairs in public park without plans or footings for $550, somehow comes in under $65,000 city estimate. Oh hell no, that thing he built is a death trap 
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 23:13
|
|
|
FCKGW posted:Oh hell no, that thing he built is a death trap B-b-but he really stuck it to those bureaucrats by coming in more than 100 times under budget!!! Bare wood on the ground with no footings in a place that freezes. Those stairs won't be able to even be in the same place next year. Then there's the hand rail on only one side on an incline that steep. Do I see that the top stair is split? kid sinister fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jul 22, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 23:32
|
|
|
Skipping footings seems like a bad idea. At least he's on the hook now for all the insurance claims, right? He did have insurance for his work, to protect the city, didn't he? Edit: Apparently they were already removed as a safety concern. crazypeltast52 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jul 21, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 23:38
|
|
|
Hard to tell from the photo but the riser height looks inconsistent which would trip people all the time.
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 23:41
|
|
|
He had a slave build itquote:Astl says he hired a homeless person to help him and built the eight steps in a matter of hours.
|
|
#
?
Jul 21, 2017 23:45
|
|
|
You're all missing the point: $65,000 is a ridiculous sum of money for a flight of stairs unless they're on the ISS.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 00:06
|
|
|
High Lord Elbow posted:You're all missing the point: $65,000 is a ridiculous sum of money for a flight of stairs unless they're on the ISS. And now the city contractor has the death steps to point to to justify their $65k stairs. "Well you see, if someone is bidding in anything cheaper it's because they're trying to build something like that!"
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 00:09
|
|
|
I'm the treads that get narrower and narrower toward the top
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 00:57
|
|
|
High Lord Elbow posted:You're all missing the point: $65,000 is a ridiculous sum of money for a flight of stairs unless they're on the ISS. If this is done by a city, then they might have to add a wheelchair ramp too. I could see $65,000 for that. What's the exchange rate for Canadian dollars now?
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 01:48
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 01:48
|
|
|
That is the absolute best post in such a long time.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 02:51
|
|
|
The plate and bolts draws the most attention but everywhere you look in that picture there's a new horror.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 03:29
|
|
|
kid sinister posted:B-b-but he really stuck it to those bureaucrats by coming in more than 100 times under budget!!! Here's a tweet log of someone visiting the stairs of doom. https://twitter.com/zchamu/status/888076360266264580 And some of the best pictures as curated by the toronto thread: Mr. Apollo posted:
The wood is not pressure treated, painted, stained or even sanded. The workmanship is shoddy. It's just sitting on top the dirt. Oh, and to get to the stairs you have to climb over a knee-high fence because that isn't an official entrance, just a shortcut. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 03:35
|
|
|
So it's gone from 'that muddy shortcut is going to kill someone' to 'those stairs are going to kill someone'.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 03:40
|
|
|
Boogalo posted:We did not gently caress around with our playforts in the late 80's and early 90's. Plenty of sharpened sticks in the ground and some sprung/swinging branches as traps, but a metal spike dropper is another level. Back in the 80s and 90s my friends and I had something of a rivalry going on with some other fort building guys. THey'd build a fort, we'd destroy it, and jack their poo poo, we'd build a fort with the jacked poo poo, they'd destroy it and jack their poo poo back plus any of our poo poo. We even had formal boundaries of their turf and our turf. Dividing line was a ditch. From the top of the embankments down was a neutral zone/no-man's land/DMZ. At one point we even negotiated a peace treaty with them, which we promptly broke and destroyed their poo poo again, before they came and destroyed our poo poo again. One time in particular, we came by night, and dismantled their fort piece by piece, nail by nail rather than the usual break poo poo by any means necessary. We did put aside the rivalry one time in order to throw snow balls at cars after we just happened to have a chance encounter with their "gang" in the same spot at the same time tossing snowballs at cars. Yeah, we had booby traps too. They weren't that effective.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 03:42
|
|
|
Facebook Aunt posted:Here's a tweet log of someone visiting the stairs of doom. How did they manage to spend $550 on that?
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 04:29
|
|
|
High Lord Elbow posted:You're all missing the point: $65,000 is a ridiculous sum of money for a flight of stairs unless they're on the ISS. Pretty sure $65k is the cost of all the work in the area, not just the single flight of stairs.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 05:07
|
|
|
duz posted:Pretty sure $65k is the cost of all the work in the area, not just the single flight of stairs. Yeah, they probably were planning on using some earth moving equipment to mellow out that slope so the stairs wouldn't need to be dangerously steep. Or metal/concrete stairs designed to last 50 years. Plus they'd want the stairs to look nice, stuff in parks is usually made to look a bit nice so it doesn't ruin the views. And if they are going to all that trouble might as well put in a ramp for accessibility, it's quite the drop so it would be a long ramp if they didn't want it to be too steep. And then things just got away from them.  
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 05:54
|
|
|
Or they just didn't want to put a new access point there at all, so they quoted a ridic high price so the stairs wouldn't be approved.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 05:54
|
|
|
Facebook Aunt posted:Yeah, they probably were planning on using some earth moving equipment to mellow out that slope so the stairs wouldn't need to be dangerously steep. Or metal/concrete stairs designed to last 50 years. Plus they'd want the stairs to look nice, stuff in parks is usually made to look a bit nice so it doesn't ruin the views. And if they are going to all that trouble might as well put in a ramp for accessibility, it's quite the drop so it would be a long ramp if they didn't want it to be too steep. And then things just got away from them. Just take out the whole hill and do this
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 06:30
|
|
|
Facebook Aunt posted:Yeah, they probably were planning on using some earth moving equipment to mellow out that slope so the stairs wouldn't need to be dangerously steep. Or metal/concrete stairs designed to last 50 years. Plus they'd want the stairs to look nice, stuff in parks is usually made to look a bit nice so it doesn't ruin the views. And if they are going to all that trouble might as well put in a ramp for accessibility, it's quite the drop so it would be a long ramp if they didn't want it to be too steep. And then things just got away from them. They're probably also required to do an environmental assessment and so on.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 07:03
|
|
|
Messadiah posted:Just take out the whole hill and do this there was a staircase kinda like this near a mall where i grew up in vancouver, except it was trying to be clever and taper the steps into the side of the hill. except they were actually tapered. so the riser height was usually slightly different even between your left and right foot unless you walked on the side of them closest to the wall. i have no idea how that was ever legal.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 07:28
|
|
|
Messadiah posted:Just take out the whole hill and do this that looks like a deathtrap to someone on a wheelchair.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 12:08
|
|
|
Bozart posted:that looks like a deathtrap to someone on a wheelchair. Friend who uses a wheelchair confirmed this. Super steep, no rails, and will tip you sideways if you go off straight.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 12:58
|
|
|
SoundMonkey posted:there was a staircase kinda like this near a mall where i grew up in vancouver, except it was trying to be clever and taper the steps into the side of the hill. except they were actually tapered. so the riser height was usually slightly different even between your left and right foot unless you walked on the side of them closest to the wall. These 'stamps' are in Vancouver at the provincial court house.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 16:41
|
|
|
duz posted:Pretty sure $65k is the cost of all the work in the area, not just the single flight of stairs. Plus this is in Toronto. $65,000 CAD currently is $51691.92 USD.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 17:14
|
|
|
the article says they just copied another estimate from some other project and had not actually specced out their own project so the numbers were really just a line item in a budget.quote:he mayor says his staff have been asked to revisit the project and come up with a more realistic estimate, as the last one was based on projects in other parks. also, there's already an accessible path, the stairs are a shortcut. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 22, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 17:40
|
|
|
 Comment that came with the pic: "That's hosed up. Everyone knows that you are supposed to use 1/2" copper for a 30 amp disconnect"
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 20:28
|
|
|
Bozart posted:that looks like a deathtrap to someone on a wheelchair. I was trying to find better angles and found an interesting article - The Problems with Ramps Blended into Stairs. Robson Square at least has some edges around the ramp. Those edges might flip a wheelchair sideways onto the ramp instead of down the stairs but it was the 80's, at least they tried.  This is a loving deathtrap. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 21:12
|
|
|
You say "deathtrap", I say "sweet bmx ramp"
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 21:18
|
|
|
Just replace wheel chairs with tank treads so they can climb stairs and we stop having to adapt everything. I saw a lot of these in Prague, a city with a lot of street stairs 
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 21:22
|
|
|
The Twinkie Czar posted:This is a loving deathtrap. That looks completely unnecessary.  It's a very gentle slope that certainly looks like it could accommodate a conventional ramp next to a conventional staircase.Baronjutter posted:Just replace wheel chairs with tank treads so they can climb stairs and we stop having to adapt everything. That still doesn't help the ones with walkers or pushing baby strollers. And won't someone think of the children on hoverboards!
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 21:28
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 04:38 |
|
|
Baronjutter posted:I saw a lot of these in Prague, a city with a lot of street stairs Won't that end up rounding off the edges of the steps?
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2017 21:28
|
|
