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she just needs to redefine 'love' to its actual bar of willing to tell the six-year-old you love him even when there's nothing specific you want from him at the moment
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Pick posted:She's doing what she can. Maybe she'd feel better if she realized a lot of parents genuinely don't like their kids either. She's not that strange. It sounds like that's not the problem though because she likes him, she doesn't love him. It sounds like the expected mother-child emotional bond just never formed in infancy, which is sad but makes sense given her circumstances and adding to that the potential of PPD. Really the only thing I think would help her at the point she's at now is actually good therapy that isn't going to judge her for the emotional circumstances she's ended up in, because as much as I can respect her putting in a lot of effort to keep her son happy and healthy, she's burning herself out by not addressing the underlying problem.
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 17:49 |
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There are some people that straight up don't want their kids, and whether they try to get rid of them in a dumpster or just suffer silently resenting them their whole life the kid is in for a lifetime filled with joy
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 17:51 |
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even Reddit's telling her to let the babysitter handle him more so she has time to develop interests outside motherhood cause with her luck her next therapist is probably going to rape her like half the comments are poo poo like this but they still yell at anyone who's not in therapy nonstop quote:One of those bad ones was a man who (while I was in a facility - self-admitted - for suicide watch), when I said to him "I feel like my friends would be better off if I died" and he said "maybe they would be." (Among other things). I ended up lying that I felt better just so he'd clear me to leave the facility because he was worsening my mental state. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Yeah, that kid's going to pick up on the fact that mommy doesn't love him sooner or later. It's just a question of how hosed up it'll make him.
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Yeah the calling CPS thing is loving unreal, is there a point at which we can maybe start observing that there's a LOT of lovely therapists and that reddit's advice of "therapy, therapy, therapy" kinda seems to ignore the work you gotta do sifting through the jackasses
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Though the advice also implies you should stick with it, even if you turn out to have a therapist even more crazy than you are the first time. Sounds like she's being a better mother than many who would claim to love their children, at least.
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To be fair there's something called "mandatory reporting" where some professions are legally required to report suspicions of child abuse or neglect, and therapists may well be in that category. Depending on how exactly the lady phrased her lack of care for the child, it's possible the therapist may have just been doing her job.
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My [24F] boyfriend [24M] of a year is so forgiving of people and accuses me of holding grudges.quote:My boyfriend Aaron is very forgiving of others, which in some ways is a good quality, but I think he takes it too far. I'm all for working things out and not cutting people off for petty things, but if someone is constantly causing me a problem, I don't see why I should be kind and helpful to them anymore. I don't get involved when I think my boyfriend is being too forgiving because it doesn't affect me and if Aaron wants to waste his time on someone who doesn't deserve it, that's his problem. But he argues with me when I don't do this and often accuses me of holding a grudge. Like when I quit a group I had been volunteering with, because I thought a lot of the people in charge were rude and disrespectful, and he said I should have stayed and tried to work it out with them. I'm not going to waste my time changing the culture of an organization when I'm not even required to be there. I found another group that does the same kind of work, so I feel like I solved the problem. This dude is a real piece of work. "Don't tell the truth about people being assholes, it might bring consequences back on them!"
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pidan posted:To be fair there's something called "mandatory reporting" where some professions are legally required to report suspicions of child abuse or neglect, and therapists may well be in that category. There a lot of lovely therapists based on the endless stories people have about their bad experiences that are posted in this very thread, and you should be able to make this simple observation, without wringing your hands and going "TO BE FAIR there are things called MANDATORY REPORTERS and its POSSIBLE she was doing her job" If she was expressing the same sentiment she shared on reddit, which is what we have to go on, it seems overblown. Why are you inventing a scenario where the therapist was totally justified because they had to protect this 6 year old from their "not fully onboard" mom
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WampaLord posted:My [24F] boyfriend [24M] of a year is so forgiving of people and accuses me of holding grudges.
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WampaLord posted:My [24F] boyfriend [24M] of a year is so forgiving of people and accuses me of holding grudges. There are a lot of people that unironically believe this, that holding people accountable is like another form of ultimatums and lack of trust (in their capacity to not do it again?) or some crap
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Haifisch posted:Yeah, that kid's going to pick up on the fact that mommy doesn't love him sooner or later. It's just a question of how hosed up it'll make him.
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Ham Sandwiches posted:There a lot of lovely therapists based on the endless stories people have about their bad experiences that are posted in this very thread, and you should be able to make this simple observation, without wringing your hands and going "TO BE FAIR there are things called MANDATORY REPORTERS and its POSSIBLE she was doing her job" To be fair every one of these posts also are made to be as flattering to the op as possible
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair every one of these posts also are made to be as flattering to the op as possible There is a group of people that go around feeling the need to right the wrongs of the poor suffering therapists being slandered in reddit stories on the internet, and only these guys are brave enough to stand up for fairness and truth... The To Be Fair brigade
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Ham Sandwiches posted:There a lot of lovely therapists based on the endless stories people have about their bad experiences that are posted in this very thread, and you should be able to make this simple observation, without wringing your hands and going "TO BE FAIR there are things called MANDATORY REPORTERS and its POSSIBLE she was doing her job" You could easily phrase "I don't love my child" in such a way that it could be interpreted to mean that the child is at risk of neglect. And from the therapist perspective, if she reports the authorities will figure out if help is needed. But if she doesn't report she might lose her job. She could still be a bad therapist regardless, it's just weird that people zeroed in on that so much when this story easily allows another interpretation
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair every one of these posts also are made to be as flattering to the op as possible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFeaWHDQzQA&t=30s 85% exaggeration, 15% lying. And 100% reason to remember the name.
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pidan posted:You could easily phrase "I don't love my child" in such a way that it could be interpreted to mean that the child is at risk of neglect. And from the therapist perspective, if she reports the authorities will figure out if help is needed. But if she doesn't report she might lose her job. This lady really did go to a therapist to talk about this concern she had about not loving her child, and the therapist really did call CPS on her, which neither helped improve the situation, nor really improved the child's chances And trying to rewrite that into "it could have been positive, you don't know" is some very bizarre stretch to me. Why is it so difficult to accept that this person probably performed their job poorly, as the OP relayed, and that this is not uncommon at all?
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I didn't know Ham had some kind of weird hang up about therapists Good to know
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Ham Sandwiches posted:This lady really did go to a therapist to talk about this concern she had about not loving her child, and the therapist really did call CPS on her, which neither helped improve the situation, nor really improved the child's chances Do you understand that there's a difference between "this person performed their job correctly" and "this person had a positive impact on the situation"?
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Ham Sandwiches posted:This lady really did go to a therapist to talk about this concern she had about not loving her child, and the therapist really did call CPS on her, which neither helped improve the situation, nor really improved the child's chances how do you remember to breath?
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Ham Sandwiches posted:There are a lot of people that unironically believe this, that holding people accountable is like another form of ultimatums and lack of trust (in their capacity to not do it again?) or some crap Which in itself is stupid as hell, since not holding someone accountable pretty much gives them free reign to keep loving someone else over again and again without repercussion
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair every one of these posts also are made to be as flattering to the op as possible there's a pretty noticeable difference between the people who are forthcoming and can paint a complete picture where they're flawed and doing their best, and the real shitbags concocting some lame-rear end story to throw a pity party for themselves that conveniently leaves out all the parts where they're shitbags. I don't think there's much to be gained from writing alternate-universe fanfiction where everything is actually completely unrelated to how the OP describes it because well it's hypothetically possible they're the Keyser Soze of emotionally distant single moms A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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I'm (30F) leaving my husband (26M) of four years, but I don't know what's the appropriate way to tell him because he's currently in prison.quote:I'm sure it's common to provide a background to our relationship, but ours is fairly unique, and for fear of being outed, I would prefer some anonymity. I can tell you, we were a happy, young couple who thought the world of each other. However, our relationship was tested last April 2015 when law enforcement raided our home before the sun had risen. After one of the officers sat me down in his SUV, he asked if I knew why they were here.
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pidan posted:Do you understand that there's a difference between "this person performed their job correctly" and "this person had a positive impact on the situation"? "This person made a judgement call that was 100% about protecting themself from any possibility of problems down the road at the cost of putting their patient in harm's way by reporting them to CPS" to me is a failure of duty Here is the OP's phrasing, notice how she carefully brings up the subject: quote:I've seen a few therapists for the last 4 years, but I've only broached this topic with one. I mentioned that I don't love him, that I don't want to be a mom, and that being a mother makes me miserable. She was curt with me, canceled our next appointment, and CPS showed up at my house a week later because someone had filed a report. I understand that the argument can be made that they were just being careful, and that's why I find this kind of stuff so manipulative and lame. The therapist wanted to wash their hands of this and succeeded, while taking the moral high ground. A vulnerable person was exposed to the system for no particular gain. I think the therapist actually harmed this person, but I find it even more bizarre that people want to defend these actions as required or good faith on behalf of the therapist.
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Haifisch posted:I'm (30F) leaving my husband (26M) of four years, but I don't know what's the appropriate way to tell him because he's currently in prison. Its even weirder than that because shes also hung up on if its even a socially acceptable thing to do as though People Magazine runs articles viciously attacking people who left their pedophile husbands.
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Barudak posted:Its even weirder than that because shes also hung up on if its even a socially acceptable thing to do as though People Magazine runs articles viciously attacking people who left their pedophile husbands. Up Next: Jared Fogle's fair weather wife leaves him after conviction!! what happened to till death do us part??
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Barudak posted:Its even weirder than that because shes also hung up on if its even a socially acceptable thing to do as though People Magazine runs articles viciously attacking people who left their pedophile husbands. Jerry Sandusky Bill Cosby Bill Clinton Woody Allen etc. he doesn't have to be People Magazine grade for making waves to make her persona non grata in her church group or whatever if he's the popular one A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Barudak posted:He is currently suggesting places he already went. He needs to suggest places he hasn't. My spouse and I both traveled various places separately so when we got together we made a list of places that were new to both of us to check off first before doubling back on places one of us had been. Or I dunno, she needs to quit dwelling on his past relationship and where he went with his ex? Getting mad over someone traveling with their ex is really not all different than someone asking how many sexual partners their SO had, then getting mad when they don't like the answer.
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My boyfriend [20M] won't sleep in the same bed as me [18F] because I have herpes.quote:In late May, I tested positive for herpes simplex type one antibodies. I was prescribed 30 days of acyclovir (1 pill twice a day.) I took them accordingly, and eventually did more research and didn't take them as often. Maybe once a day or every other day. I know I should have stuck to what the doctor prescribed so yes Ill admit i was in the wrong. Now that I've run out, I haven't taken any in about a month. Prior to testing positive for it, I had never had any cold sore of any sort. I would sometimes get canker sores in my mouth from biting my lip or something, Im not sure if that's related to herpes or not. When doing more research, I realized that herpes wasn't as big of a deal as people made it out to seem and started to not be as upset over it and come to terms that my life wasnt over because I have herpes. My father also tested positive for herpes type one and has been with my mother for 20 years and she doesn't have it. Blowjobs? Totally cool. Sleep in the same bed with me? GET OUT, YOU CONTAGIOUS WHORE!
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 19:12 |
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Aren't like the minor forms of oral herpes on like 90% of the population or something?
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# ? Jul 23, 2017 19:45 |
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Yeah, I looked it up after reading it and one of those simplexes is like 90+%
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Haifisch posted:Yeah, that kid's going to pick up on the fact that mommy doesn't love him sooner or later. It's just a question of how hosed up it'll make him. Are we reading Jennifer's Boss: Origins? fruit on the bottom posted:Yeah, I looked it up after reading it and one of those simplexes is like 90+% Yeah if it were HSV2 he'd just be an rear end in a top hat. HSV1 he's a stupid rear end in a top hat because he already has it same as everyone. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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yeah, if you really care that much about herpes then enjoy your dental dams and condoms during oral sex I guess
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Ham Sandwiches posted:"This person made a judgement call that was 100% about protecting themself from any possibility of problems down the road at the cost of putting their patient in harm's way by reporting them to CPS" to me is a failure of duty People don't tend to talk in a therapy session the same way they do in a carefully constructed and edited Reddit post. Either she said something in a really awful way, which the therapist misinterpreted and reported to be on the same side for both the kid and the therapist, or it didn't happen (nice way for the OP to cut off suggestions to see a therapist, though). I'm not a therapist, but I am a mandated reporter that has to work with therapists a lot. I've only had to report one parent to CPS thus far, when we had pictures of bruises and burns from the parent 'disciplining' the kid, and it still took over 6 months to have anything get done with CPS. If you're going to take the route of the therapist is some cartoon villain, why would a therapist want to go through all the paperwork and effort for something that could just as easily be accomplished by referring out to a different therapist? Its almost like you have a vendetta against therapists. WampaLord posted:My boyfriend [20M] won't sleep in the same bed as me [18F] because I have herpes. I would wish dick herpes upon him but he's just gonna spread it to other women. ArbitraryC posted:Aren't like the minor forms of oral herpes on like 90% of the population or something? Yup.
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Ham Sandwiches posted:There a lot of lovely therapists based on the endless stories people have about their bad experiences that are posted in this very thread, and you should be able to make this simple observation, without wringing your hands and going "TO BE FAIR there are things called MANDATORY REPORTERS and its POSSIBLE she was doing her job" I've been in therapy off and on my entire life, and ONE therapist saved my life and made me want to be a fully-realized person, and that was my therapy horse Dominick.
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Pick you've been in this thread long enough to know that having a strong bond with your (therapy) horse merits a red flag.
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fruit on the bottom posted:Pick you've been in this thread long enough to know that having a strong bond with your (therapy) horse merits a red flag. It's the only thing that works for her.
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Pick posted:I've been in therapy off and on my entire life, and ONE therapist saved my life and made me want to be a fully-realized person, and that was my therapy horse Dominick. You'll have a much closer connection with your 27 therapy cats when you are older.
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