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Philonius posted:This annoys me too. For bosses you can just look at the threatmeters in the party window, but no easy way to keep track of if on multiple mobs. I don't usually say this but that's a great idea
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Hogama posted:Speaking of, there can be some dialogue changes in surprising places. That explains the mask, then.
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TheRagamuffin posted:As a newbie tank, I'm finding the biggest thing that trips me up is knowing what mobs In about to lose threat lead on. I kinda wish there were separate aggro icons for "you have a decent threat lead" versus "you have a tenuous threat lead". How do better tanks keep track of this? Do I just need to get used to reading the A/2/3/4/etc markers at a glance? Is there any way that doesn't involve just cycling through every mob? I have been begging for a mod API for years now. As soon as it launches, I will be writing a version of Threatplates for FFXIV, that poo poo was cash as a tank in WoW.
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Thundarr posted:If you are close to level up when you first log in for the day, maybe run an at level dungeon to put you over and *then* do roulettes, but otherwise yeah. Healer/tank privilege means never having to run FATEs or PotD unless you actually want to. Mostly an edge case I realize but how do you prefer getting from 60 to 61 so you (as a privileged role) can start spamming Sirensong? After my daily roulettes on whatever class I've mostly just been FATEing in the Fringes.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I have been begging for a mod API for years now. As soon as it launches, I will be writing a version of Threatplates for FFXIV, that poo poo was cash as a tank in WoW. Make PowerAuras while you're at it, thanks 
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TBH I'd rather have them just make the game good enough without mods than add a mod API, especially considering that they're unlikely to be able to get mods on PS4. It might be possible, I don't know anything about what sort of restrictions Sony puts on game developers, but I do know they've cited console support as a problem in the past.
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Jul 24, 2017 02:01
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Could people post their HUDs? I'd be interested to see other setups than my own. I feel like I'm doing too much clicking as opposed to keyboard shortcuts.
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Jul 24, 2017 02:03
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I have been begging for a mod API for years now. As soon as it launches, I will be writing a version of Threatplates for FFXIV, that poo poo was cash as a tank in WoW. God please no, keeping up with mods and compatibility is part of why i quit WoW altogether. And it'll never happen, due to PS4 being a thing.
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I didn't quit WoW because of mods but nowadays it's a big thing keeping me away. Please no UI mods yoship
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[quote="“Ciaphas”" post="“474652753”"] I didn’t quit WoW because of mods but nowadays it’s a big thing keeping me away. Please no UI mods yoship [/quote]
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Jay Rust posted:Could people post their HUDs? I'd be interested to see other setups than my own. I feel like I'm doing too much clicking as opposed to keyboard shortcuts. I basically have every easy to reach key bound. - Numbers 1 though 5 - Q, E , R, T, G, V, X - shift + X, shift + G, shift + V , shift + E - mouse 4 and 5 - shift mouse 4, shift mouse 5 - ctrl mouse 4 That gives me 21 bound keys. One hotbar is bound to the numpad buttons, I use those for cooldown abilities. To help with muscle memory I try to keep similar abilities on different classes bound to the same key. Q is always a conal AOE, E is always a circular AOE, etc.
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Jul 24, 2017 02:13
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Ciaphas posted:Mostly an edge case I realize but how do you prefer getting from 60 to 61 so you (as a privileged role) can start spamming Sirensong? After my daily roulettes on whatever class I've mostly just been FATEing in the Fringes. ~3 runs of gubal library normal (with rested bonus) should do it.
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The Grimace posted:What's the body piece? Same model as Dodore Doublet, but it dyes differently. Maybe a 1.0 antique crafted piece? Having done a bid in Balmung where there was another Super Mario (a lalafell kill all lalafells) I can confirm that it *is* the Dodore Doublet. Jay Rust posted:Could people post their HUDs? I'd be interested to see other setups than my own. I feel like I'm doing too much clicking as opposed to keyboard shortcuts.  I've been super lazy about cleaning everything up, and this was basically my setup for Heavensward. I use a Shift modifier for the second row, an Alt modifier for the third row, and also use a 12 button gaming mouse so basically all those keys are fairly easy to access.
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Kakesu posted:~3 runs of gubal library normal (with rested bonus) should do it. Hey, that's a great idea. Thanks!
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Jul 24, 2017 02:28
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I don't really care about UI mods but why would something entirely optional be a bad thing?
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Jul 24, 2017 02:32
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“optional”
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I don't really care about UI mods but why would something entirely optional be a bad thing? people are worried someone is going to yell at them for not having Not-Deadly Boss Mods
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Jul 24, 2017 02:34
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Anything 'optional' like that very quickly becomes mandatory otherwise you aren't playing the game right.
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Jul 24, 2017 02:35
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:“optional” The only reason they were needed in WoW was cuz the WoW default UI was so bad, (and it's improved alot since 2004) something like DBM I'm totally fine with never coming to this game though just because of the way it forces the devs to design raid fights around it.
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Jul 24, 2017 02:36
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I think the issue that is being alluded to with regard to not wanting mods is the level of information that is assumed to also be included in the package. IE: Now you can display and track how much damage someone is doing, or what their potential to survive a run (so don't even bother taking them) is. I will admit, the implementation of this is what kept me out of raiding in WoW ( and not at all because I rolled the wrong class  ) because unless you had X, Y, and Z you didn't even need to apply, which in turn bred an insufferable shitlord mentality amongst the raiding groups of WoW.But then again I may be reading this entirely wrong.
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For me, UI mods in WoW was a neverending quest to improve how my UI looked/felt/operated. It wasn't as bad as TES/Fallout in terms of how much time I spent tinkering rather than playing but it certainly got in the way of things, especially when something broke.
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The only way hypothetical mods would even remotely be considered mandatory would be within a raid static, so I'm not sure why people are preemptively complaining about it. I for one would love some additional information.
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Fister Roboto posted:The only way hypothetical mods would even remotely be considered mandatory would be within a raid static, so I'm not sure why people are preemptively complaining about it. I for one would love some additional information. Because "the only place it would be mandatory" doesn't mean the same as "the only place where people would treat it as mandatory."
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Jul 24, 2017 02:59
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I assure you that people will not kick you out of Satasha or EXDR because you arent running the Pro RaiderZ mods.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I assure you that people will not kick you out of Satasha or EXDR because you arent running the Pro RaiderZ mods. 
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I just need to say two things right now: 1. The entire story segment from Bardam's Mettle to Doma Castle is insanely cool 2. Magnai needs to have his own spinoff game that's a dating sim These are the things I needed to say.
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I played WOW pretty casually for about 7 years and I literally never had someone get mad at me for not having a certain mod, or at least not that I can remember.
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this game already has deadly boss mods and weakauras you can download it here: http://advancedcombattracker.com/
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Fister Roboto posted:I played WOW pretty casually for about 7 years and I literally never had someone get mad at me for not having a certain mod, or at least not that I can remember. People only got mad if you didn't have it in serious content, which is something you did with a static group of people anyways where everyone would be on the same page regardless.
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I've played at max level and completed the final raid tier of every WoW expansion since Wrath of the Lich King. Never once have randoms I was grouped with for dungeons, or even randoms I was grouped with for normal difficulty raids, demanded I have a certain addon or even introduce the question. (With the one exception of Iskar in Hellfire Citadel, but that terribly-designed fight is the exception that proves the rule.)
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Ibram Gaunt posted:People only got mad if you didn't have it in serious content, which is something you did with a static group of people anyways where everyone would be on the same page regardless. I've definitely had people bitch about it in LFR during Pandaria but it was basically them not wanting to bother explaining mechanics to newbies.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I assure you that people will not kick you out of Satasha or EXDR because you arent running the Pro RaiderZ mods. This statement makes it pretty apparent you've never actually done endgame dungeons (setting aside raids) in World of Warcraft. People already will try to votekick tanks from EXDR for not mass-pulling in FFXIV. As a more general remark on the topic: I believe there shouldn't be any mods or modding support, because the game should convey all the information it needs to in an optimal way already. If it doesn't, that means that the developers themselves need to make changes, not outsource it to players.
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Maximum Chenergy posted:This statement makes it pretty apparent you've never actually done dungeon in World of Warcraft. I've played WoW since 2004 and literally never seen this insane strawman poo poo that people think will happen if mods ever came into being.
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Maximum Chenergy posted:This statement makes it pretty apparent you've never actually done dungeon in World of Warcraft. Is running every single dungeon in the game tens of times across multiple max-level characters not experience enough for you, friend? Their post is correct.
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King Cohort posted:Is running every single dungeon in the game tens of times across multiple max-level characters not experience enough for you, friend? Their post is correct. My anecdote trumps their anecdote because
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Maximum Chenergy posted:This statement makes it pretty apparent you've never actually done endgame dungeons (setting aside raids) in World of Warcraft. lmao nice, i too like to imagine things that aren't real for example factual posts made by you
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I did have someone in WOW call me a gay friend of the family for rolling need on loot he wanted, so we should obviously abolish the loot system.
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Argas posted:My anecdote trumps their anecdote because My thousands of anecdotes of dungeon runs since Wrath of the Lich King trumps the paranoid fantasy of mods magically turning every player you're grouped with into a member of the Tryhard Gestapo. Because they don't.
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Maximum Chenergy posted:People already will try to votekick tanks from EXDR for not mass-pulling in FFXIV. Does this actually happen? Because I've run exdr dozens and dozens of times for tomes or gear or shits n giggles and not once has anyone even commented on a slow tank in /party let alone tried to vote-kick. I didn't think anyone actually gave a poo poo.
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King Cohort posted:the Tryhard Gestapo. mods UHD posted:Does this actually happen? Because I've run exdr dozens and dozens of times for tomes or gear or shits n giggles and not once has anyone even commented on a slow tank in /party let alone tried to vote-kick. I didn't think anyone actually gave a poo poo. no, it doesn't hell i returned from a half-year long break in the middle of heavensward and pulled like molasses because i was getting used to buttons again and no one said a word the only time this might have been an issue is early-era amdapor keep when you could skip the trash by sacrificing your tank via mass-pulling; and the devs hotfixed it a month? two months? later
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