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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Pac-Manioc Root posted:

From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

Binch you are a manager, I am labor.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

The dry boys and girl need all of that money

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Doesn't bourgeoisie require some level of wealth and ownership of production beyond a top ~10% income? Should we care if Chapo are now class traitors? If the line is $150k/yr I'm not sure if I'm supposed to stop voting or instead see that the line I cross to accept Chapo means supporting Mark Warner or some other business ghoul in the D caucus.

Every few weeks some person who knows it's a very bad look to directly complain about left politics complains Chapo makes too much money etc. but never offers something better or suggests they've heard of Street Fight, Discourse Collective, Trillbilly, Delete Your Account and the like.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Kunster posted:

Yeah, however the constant weird "huuuh check out how badass Amber is for eating at a burgershop that's next to a bulletproof glass" fanfiction does take a blow w poo poo like this, and if this just means they outright being upfront about it rather than write bizarre poverty porn about headboards or whatever, that's just a positive at this point. There's a point where you write stuff like

https://twitter.com/hupperts/status/889139153513873409

and you have to go "... Wait."

Also, lol at the freedie reply down there.

lol literally a hipster attitude about socialism

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Kunster posted:

Yeah, however the constant weird "huuuh check out how badass Amber is for eating at a burgershop that's next to a bulletproof glass" fanfiction does take a blow w poo poo like this, and if this just means they outright being upfront about it rather than write bizarre poverty porn about headboards or whatever, that's just a positive at this point. There's a point where you write stuff like

https://twitter.com/hupperts/status/889139153513873409

and you have to go "... Wait."

Also, lol at the freedie reply down there.

what the gently caress are you even saying

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever
so how did chapo catch up to that philip defranco guy on patreon? he somehow spiked to like 15k subscribers in a week but it just peaked slightly above there? Did he launder his own money into it in order to hype it up?

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Doesn't bourgeoisie require some level of wealth and ownership of production beyond a top ~10% income? Should we care if Chapo are now class traitors? If the line is $150k/yr I'm not sure if I'm supposed to stop voting or instead see that the line I cross to accept Chapo means supporting Mark Warner or some other business ghoul in the D caucus.

Every few weeks some person who knows it's a very bad look to directly complain about left politics complains Chapo makes too much money etc. but never offers something better or suggests they've heard of Street Fight, Discourse Collective, Trillbilly, Delete Your Account and the like.

no we must destroy anyone who can help organize, donate, and get people excited and involved because they make above minimum wage

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

especially if they're creative types

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Carl was claiming that as one person and not the whole group tho. I ain't calling them class traitors or whatever. I don't know where you get "They're not real lefties for having money" from that, just that sometimes they're perceived as these figures of monetary struggle when they ain't aside from Matt, podcast money aside. This does not in any way deny their position as organizers or whatever.

Kunster fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jul 24, 2017

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Kunster posted:

Carl was claiming that as one person and not the whole group tho. I ain't calling them class traitors or whatever. I don't know where you get "They're not real lefties for having money" from that, just that sometimes they're perceived as these figures of monetary struggle when they ain't aside from Matt, podcast money aside. This does not in any way deny their position as organizers or whatever.

No but it questions why this is even a discussion to begin with. Even if you had a comfortable upbringing, if it's morality that brings you here, good. Especially when so many who bring up this argument are disingenuous and obviously have ulterior motives while making 10x any member of CTH does while working at some big media industry or a make-work propaganda machine funded by billionaires

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

It's just that a bunch of the supporter crowd do see them as like, the internet podcast equivalent of the Beverly HillyBillies where all of the Chapos somehow were incredibly poor and lived in sleepbags until they got on SFR, on which then they made a podcast and somehow a bag of money shown up in front of their communal tent, on which they brought the Park Slope Mansion.

Most of the Chapo Crew are media people who'd otherwise live comfortably without the podcast.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
Didn't Felix live on a cot on some ladies porch or something?

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Kunster posted:

It's just that a bunch of the supporter crowd do see them as like, the internet podcast equivalent of the Beverly HillyBillies where all of the Chapos somehow were incredibly poor and lived in sleepbags until they got on SFR, on which then they made a podcast and somehow a bag of money shown up in front of their communal tent, on which they brought the Park Slope Mansion.

Most of the Chapo Crew are media people who'd otherwise live comfortably without the podcast.

stop projecting you weirdo

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
as a poor you have my permission to shut the gently caress up about this

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Felix is real, and strong, and poor. And he is my friend

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


cat doter posted:

as a poor you have my permission to shut the gently caress up about this

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

The line on who's bourgeoisie is do you own the means of production.

If you don't but you live comfortably you're pétit bourgeoisie.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Kunster posted:

It's just that a bunch of the supporter crowd do see them as like, the internet podcast equivalent of the Beverly HillyBillies where all of the Chapos somehow were incredibly poor and lived in sleepbags until they got on SFR, on which then they made a podcast and somehow a bag of money shown up in front of their communal tent, on which they brought the Park Slope Mansion.

Most of the Chapo Crew are media people who'd otherwise live comfortably without the podcast.

This post is really loving weirding me out

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Crane Fist posted:

This post is really loving weirding me out

it's kunster for you

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Moist von Lipwig posted:

Didn't Felix live on a cot on some ladies porch or something?

from his pieces in the street fight zines i wouldn't take that he'd be in a good place for granted. and from interviews that amber would either but this whole point is moot and sort of stupid and just feels like splitting hairs

Big Coffin Hunter fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jul 24, 2017

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Even without Chapo all of the hosts would have a refrigerator they aren't real allies

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Did you guys know Marx mooched off Engels who was a bourgeoise? Makes you think.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Engels spent his twenties angrily posting about the conditions of the English working class while loving a hot Irish socialist agitator

Truly the brocialist hero we should all aspire to

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

you're either an engles or a marx and don't let anyone tell you either is bad

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
Pretty good Chapo this week. Rob is always a great well to go back too.

Deray said he wants OJ to become the poster child for parole reform.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/889333737829355522

https://twitter.com/ResistKS/status/889334234976059393

quote:

Making Kansas great again by resisting the ultraconservative KS GOP's anti-family and anti-working class policies. Trolls blocked & reported. No lists.

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

If these people do nothing but watch Game of Thrones and still willfully misinterpret "bend the knee" and you think they have an ounce of integrity in what they believe in I don't know what to tell you.

Plus, ya know, their worldview was discredited when Trump won but just keep banging that Russia bell

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
game of thrones literally had a scene this week where khaleesi forcefully insists that a male character bend the knee

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

scary ghost dog posted:

game of thrones literally had a scene this week where khaleesi forcefully insists that a male character bend the knee

not one iota of self-reflection about this will be had by anyone who is mad at chapo about it

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/879758973876023298

She doesn't get that "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" is about her. Not the people who walk away, but the ones who make peace with torture and tyranny to support their own lifestyles, because they're been convinced that it's Pragmatic and Necessary.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



the democrats would give the tortured child of Omelas an earned income tax credit and pat themselves on the back.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Joy Ann Reitard

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




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Omelets are awesome. Especially with chili in them.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

GalacticAcid posted:

Joy Ann Reitard

new thread title

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Here's my best guess on Felix: he was upper-middle-class in Chicago. In NYC, that's just enough money to afford a gym membership, BJJ classes, protein powder, and a sleeping bag in a closet.

padijun posted:

so how did chapo catch up to that philip defranco guy on patreon? he somehow spiked to like 15k subscribers in a week but it just peaked slightly above there? Did he launder his own money into it in order to hype it up?
Duh, the FSB.

Trabisnikof posted:

Also people are so conditioned to thinking about socialism as cold grey and unpleasant that people can't grasp the idea of socialism as anything but. People honestly believe Amber is sarcastic about her example of nationalizing the Whole Foods hot bar. How can a socialist want comrades to go to an adult-theme playground for vacation? That's not cold and unenjoyable at all!
Yeah most Americans are fairly uneducated about historical socialist and communist countries. And American education is designed to prevent people from developing class consciousness. So people look at Soviet/DPRK propaganda posters and think that's the end goal of communism.

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Halloween Jack posted:

So people look at Soviet/DPRK propaganda posters and think that's the end goal of communism.
Which is wrong, its just the end result.

Neon Belly
Feb 12, 2008

I need something stronger.

Halloween Jack posted:

Here's my best guess on Felix: he was upper-middle-class in Chicago. In NYC, that's just enough money to afford a gym membership, BJJ classes, protein powder, and a sleeping bag in a closet.

No he's just like that.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Chapo Moment: I was at the gym on Saturday, going up to the bougie rooftop pool, and the two people in the elevator started complaining about how slow it was. I almost blurted out "Well, it's an Otis."

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The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
Joy Reid just gets paid to have really terrible opinions on everything. She's amazing.

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