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Dragonatrix posted:
Hey, she was warned not to blink.     Also, I never really noticed how monochromatic the rest of the party's Persona designs are. Coming back from Persona 4 and 5, it's a marked contrast given how colorful and diverse the rest of your crews' Personas were in those games. Anyway... Akihiko and Junpei are always up for kicking some rear end, and we haven't had a chance to see Mitsuru in action yet, so bench Yukari. She's always being such a downer.
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"Here's an entire era of history where literally nothing happened!" Who gave these people a license to teach? "I have dreams about you, so we're dating now. If you see any girls, even ones that are only your friends, you're going to be punished for leveling up the mechanic that's a central part of the game!"  I guess bench Junpei.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:
Makoto, being the enabler just using people to get psychic powers he is, naturally has no intention of trying to sit someone down and explain to them how relationships work. That's hard. Getting powerups from someone who's decided they're in love with you is just so much easier.
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Maybe it was something lost in translation, or maybe it's just me, but I always felt that they put more pressure on Makoto than Fuuka to join, but Yukari makes a huge deal at this point about how she feels Fuuka was practically shanghai'd into SEES.Dragonatrix posted:
CmdrKing posted:Makoto, being the enabler just using people to get psychic powers he is, naturally has no intention of trying to sit someone down and explain to them how relationships work. That's hard. Getting powerups from someone who's decided they're in love with you is just so much easier.
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Commander Keene posted:I'm not entirely certain Makoto understands how relationships work himself. That's probably why so many of them are about enabling bad decisions.
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W.T. Fits posted:Anyway... Akihiko and Junpei are always up for kicking some rear end, and we haven't had a chance to see Mitsuru in action yet, so bench Yukari. She's always being such a downer. I'm down for this. Bench Yukari.
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Ah yes, the worst mechanic in Persona 3's male route: date all the girls! Another reason why I vastly prefer the female route. Bench Junpei..
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W.T. Fits posted:Also, I never really noticed how monochromatic the rest of the party's Persona designs are. Coming back from Persona 4 and 5, it's a marked contrast given how colorful and diverse the rest of your crews' Personas were in those games. I mean, Orpheus shares this trait.  He's primarily monochromatic but has actual color, I guess because the Protagonist is different from everyone else?
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Hoooo boy. THAT mechanic. gently caress whoever thought that was a good idea. PERIOD. -and- there's something else we haven't seen yet of it but probably will soon. It's Very Bad. Oh god is it ever bad.
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Commander Keene posted:Maybe it was something lost in translation, or maybe it's just me, but I always felt that they put more pressure on Makoto than Fuuka to join, but Yukari makes a huge deal at this point about how she feels Fuuka was practically shanghai'd into SEES. Given stuff we learn about her later, it seems pretty obvious to me she's projecting her own issues and insecurities onto Fuuka, hard.
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Yeah, you can't really blame Yukari for showing more concern towards a small, shy victim of bullying than a guy with superior powers than everybody else that one-shotted a big shadow with no hesitasion the first time he encountered one. And while the no-friendship-with-girls sucked I find it a pity that they removed the reversing links mechanic altogether, for me it provided more immersion and replay value in trying to make as many links as possible to hate you.
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Since it looks like my main man Junpei is getting das boot, I'll cover Mitsuru and Fuuka's analysis when we see them in action. For now, a new Social Link! The Death Arcana Ah, Death. Truly one of the most misunderstood Arcana in the entire deck. It's a common cliche for a protagonist of a story to get a Tarot reading and be drawn the Death card, which is a huge misunderstanding of the meaning of the card. The Death Arcana does not symbolize death itself- more, Death is a representation of change (For the record, if you want to know what the actual bad tarot cards are, try to avoid drawing Tower and Devil). Death in fact did not even have a name originally in the deck; the card was simply a picture of a skeleton on a horse, so people started calling it Death and the name stuck. Death's true symbolism is that of change- a great metamorphosis and the idea of one door closing as another opens. That last part can even be seen in its deck placement. Death is the exact halfway point of the Tarot Deck, with the first half of the deck dealing with the personal qualities of people, whereas the cards that follow Death tend to be more abstract concepts. Death is the second plot link in Persona 3, meaning that this will rank up to max in all playthroughs of the game. This means for Max Social Link run players that you don't need to worry about having a matching Persona for the rank or even needing to carry one, much like Fool. In both Hamuko and Makoto's playthroughs, Death is represented by Pharos, the mysterious creepy boy who loves to watch you sleep. Pharos does fit with the symbolism of the Arcana by warning the protagonist of big changes that are about to happen in their lives. Pharos also shares a voice actor with the protagonist in Yuri Lowenthal. Though Persona 3 tends to get the actual meaning of Death correctly, it does hang on to some of the preconceptions, namely in its Personas. Death Personas all tend to specialize in instant-death magic, both Light and Dark aligned, but mainly dark. They also tend to all learn how to inflict Fear status. Death Personas also tend to follow the theme of Death by often being literally associated with Death- for example, our first three Death Personas are Ghoul, Pale Rider (The Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse) and Loa (A Haitian intermediary spirit between God and humans).
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GoneRampant posted:(For the record, if you want to know what the actual bad tarot cards are, try to avoid drawing Tower and Devil). The Nine and Ten of Swords are pretty bad, too.
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Considering the super tight schedule you would have to follow in a 100% run, I'm wondering if you were just meant to pick one girl and ignore all the rest. And yeah, that's also why the P3 protag has a questionable reputation as an enabler. In order to do most of the girl's S-Links, you have to date them. No way around that if you want 100% S-link completion. Also, bench Junpei.
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Petiso posted:And while the no-friendship-with-girls sucked I find it a pity that they removed the reversing links mechanic altogether, for me it provided more immersion and replay value in trying to make as many links as possible to hate you. I don't know about P5, but I know they didn't remove Reversed Social Links completely from P4; you could reverse Ai's Social Link if you said the wrong thing to her at one point. Guess what I did! Not reversing her Link requires you to act like our protagonist here would have; you need to play enabler for her bad behavior. Also, I kind of wish that there was a failure ending for Reversing all of the not mandatory Social Links in the game. Dr. Fetus posted:Considering the super tight schedule you would have to follow in a 100% run, I'm wondering if you were just meant to pick one girl and ignore all the rest. I'm not sure if this is "enabling" so much as "the only reason to spend time with women is for the sex", but neither paints a very good picture of our protagonist.
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I haven't played P5 yet, but one of the few things I know about it is that, apparently, if you date all the girls, they all get together and beat the snot out of you. So that's funny.
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Naoto's Social Link can become reversed at one point, too. Also, apparently you can ruin your relationship with Ai so bad that it's permanent and carries over to New Game+.  StandardVC10 posted:I haven't played P5 yet, but one of the few things I know about it is that, apparently, if you date all the girls, they all get together and beat the snot out of you. So that's funny. That's awesome.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Also, apparently you can ruin your relationship with Ai so bad that it's permanent and carries over to New Game+.
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Commander Keene posted:I feel like they could have left the "jealousy" mechanic in (limited to actual dates, however, so if you're playing monoamorous or friends-only you don't need to care) if they allowed you to pick who you dated. If you wanted to go the harem route, it would be that much more challenging. You don't have to enable her at all to avoid Reversing it, you just have to, y'know, not be a jerk.
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There is definitely one scene where a guy asks her out, and she basically tells him to gently caress off because he's too ugly. Suggesting that she might have been a bit hard on the guy's feelings causes the link to immediately reverse. In order to get maximum points for the scene, you are forced to agree that the guy totally deserved it. Sound like any Social Link scenes in another game we know of?
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There are three other options for that scene: "Can't you be nice?", "You coulda talked to him...", "Are looks everything?", none of which 'agree' with her statement. So you can disagree with her without Reversing.
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Seems like voting's slowed down/dried up, and so, barring a massive very late surge for someone else, it seems pretty clear to me that Junpei's warming the bench for now. I guess it's not too surprising; his WAR right now has to be abysmally low all things considered.
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W.T. Fits posted:The Nine and Ten of Swords are pretty bad, too. While I agree with you on the Nine, I've mostly seen primarily positive interpretations of the Ten of Swords. Honestly, though, most of the cards of the Swords spell trouble.
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  Want To Be Close (Reincarnation) / Time  Yamagishi will be living in the dorm with us. And starting tonight, she'll be providing us with support during battle. So, now I can rejoin the front line. Great. You're reliable. Yes, you can depend on me. Even though I'm a bit out of practice, I will soon return to my prior form.Seems like we have Mitsuru as a playable character as of today. I am super okay with that.  We're not even remotely close to running out of time, but that doesn't matter. Best way to deal with it now is to just focus on Chihiro's link for a while, I think. Joy  All of the books on this shelf are only 100 yen each, so I can afford them with my allowance...> Chihiro is looking at the books on the shelf. Shall we get going? I don't see anything that interests me... ...Hm? O-Oh my... This is...! I've been dying to read this!!  I would never have expected this to be here... Maybe the shop owner made a mistake... ...They have all three volumes. This is amazing...  Wh-What should I do...? Is it good? Of course! All three volumes are great! The characters look so real! ...Like they really exist! But, I'll get them no matter what! By next month... wait... by the time I graduate! I-I gotta hide them where no one will see them...For over a year, no less. The perfect plan! Please, don't get bought by someone else... But, I also don't want to be a burden to my mother... Kogals are high-school girls that basically dress like uniformed high-school girls... except with a few minor tweaks. Looking at this person, it sure doesn't apply. But if it does and this is just a timing quirk (no), it gives us a very alternative indicator of what is actually going on here. And it's a hell of a lot more creepy than you would think... Nervous Man: S-Sorry! Forgive me! I'll do anything you want! Anything!! Kogal: I'm going to break Up with you if you don't buy me that bag I was talking about before.  Until recently... What do you mean? ...Oh, don't worry. I was just talking to myself. But... I sort of understand how he feels... That man... He doesn't have any self-confidence, so he tries to compensate with his money...Uh, no. If her nametag was correct and she is a school girl, then what we just caught a glimpse of was compensated dating. A creepy practice in which women (who could be adults but are more often in high-school) date older men for money, material goods and sometimes sex. It is basically child prostitution, but it's defended and considered a distinct practice because it's not always sex.  It's really loving gross, yes. And the entire reason I know it exists is because it was relevant in Persona 2. Thanks, Lisa!  > Chihiro seems to be thinking about you. > Your relationship is stronger now!   ...Shall we go? If I stay here, I know I'll want to go back to the bookstore and look at that illustration collection again... > Chihiro ran away. > It's getting dark, so you decide to go back to the dorm. Iwatodai Dorm Now that Fuuka is formally a member of the team, Liz gives us a call to let us know we can ascend higher in Tartarus. Also she has new requests.   ...just tell me if you want to go to Tartarus.Really, it doesn't affect overly much that we need to talk to Fuuka and not Mitsuru for Tartarus and checking whether everyone else is Tired/Sick or not now.  Well, there are some things in life you don't want to know about... This is one of them. They said I could move in on Sunday, but I decided to come a little earlier. I wanted to begin helping you all as soon as possible... But I didn't even have time to pack, so I don't have anything with me.  I'm glad she wants to be part of the team. I'm looking forward to the next mission. ...You already knew that!  At first, people were saying that she was absent because she was being bullied... But. then they started saying she was really sick. Strange, huh? She seems pretty healthy to me.No, it's not strange at all. You were right there both times we learned that she was absent because she was missing because she was trapped in Tartarus. God drat it, Yukari. Junpei is supposed to be The Dumb One.  Well, let's have a nice surprise. Guess it's not once a month after all!  Today's subject is a man in his 30s. with sunglasses and long hair that reaches to his back. ...Next is news. Pain, pain, go away! So, our guest this time is one of the best Persona characters ever and also the oldest playable character in the series period. Baofu clocks in at the Absolutely Ancient age of 32 during the events of Persona 2. Like Lisa, he's not actually Japanese but rather Taiwanese. He's such a badass, he fights by flicking things like coins as his weapons. When he's not being a cool dude, he works as a rumormonger which helps influence the way events shape out in Sumaru City. Sadly this is basically all he does in Innocent Sin, so he's a fairly minor (but very important) NPC there. Fortunately, he gets upgraded to a playable character in Eternal Punishment. He joins claiming to be interested in finding out the truth behind the JOKER curse, but is really interested in doing an assassination on the boss of the Taiwanese Mafia. Yes, really. Baofu's Primary Arcana is The Hanged Man, but he's very noteworthy in that his Secondary Arcana techically includes The Tower as he has the best affinity towards it out of everyone. His affinity is still only Good, but no one else has that or better. Oh and his default Persona is Odysseus. Yes, the main character of Homer's Odyssey who was also in the Iliad. When The Moon's Reaching Out Stars / Way of Life Y'know, I just realised I've completely ignored this the entire time.  It just costs 200 Yen a pop and doesn't take up any time. It's the only place to get Jack Frost Dolls, so I take a few minutes to spend the ~4000 yen it takes to luck out and get enough for something later.  Because, well, it IS a crane game. You win far less often than you lose. The Poem For Everyone's Soul We've got a decent chunk of time before Liz's next deadline for her requests. Doesn't mean we'll necessarily take 'em slow though.  Especially since some of them are very low-effort and can be done as soon as we get a chance during the day.  Some also require a bit more effort than before, though. This seems like a simple get the item thing, but we need to figure out what it's meant to be first. Fortunately, that's easy enough to do here. It's an anatomy model of some kind, so now we just need to find one...  Which we can't do right now. But there are some new things available in Tartarus, so let's go! The Voice Someone Calls I've also decided that I'll allow you to select the members of your battle party. I realize that this is a big responsibility, but I believe you can handle it.I'm sure  Well, this is our party composition for the next stretch of Tartarus. Junpei gets to warm the bench, which is probably sensible for the time being.  Oh, and I stuck Mitsuru in the High-Cut Armor so she had actual defense and also to try and trigger a mini-event I forgot existed. tartarus_0d02 Fuuka starts us off by telling us where the next boss fight is, I see.  ...Speaking of seeing, I can't help but notice that this looks suspiciously like Arqa. Not just a text glitch this time. It's probably just a minor stretch I guess.  We'll skip on up to the 42nd floor for the time being. While the previous floor does give us the new Shadows, just gonna confirm that we're not actually anywhere near the 3rd block yet... This block is much bigger than it seems. Yay...  Also, Fuuka in FES and Portable has this additional option to change the Tartarus background music. This is quite nice, its options are limited but they are all some very nice Persona 1 and 2 remixes at least. It has never appeared in any other game since. Not in 4 (which was fair I guess), not in Golden (same), not in 5... which was arguably the worst decision. At least the Tartarus music DOES change.  Oh well, we'll stick with the default for the time being. While we give Fuuka chance to find where the boss really is (I actually did remember it being 50  ), we might as well do, uh... Mass Destruction / Wiping All Out New Shadows! Sky Balance is pretty simple, really. It's a reversed Heat Balance, except it reflects its own elements rather than merely nullify them. It uses the spells you'd expect. Very simple, dies very quickly.  These guys are a bit... maybe more dangerous? I guess? If they get to do something, at least. They have low HP, no resistances, but Mudo can be an instant game over and if they get two turns (somehow) Mind Charge Agilao could be really dangerous. Which, uh, is never going to happen even if they DO get the first strike.  Bronze Dice are... they exist, at least. Their skills are kind of interesting, but very Phys heavy. Kill Rush is the final light tier Strike attack. It hits one thing 1-2 times and each hit has a base 110 Power.  Liz wants us to get 5 of a thing that they'll drop. Since they usually appear as pairs, or a trio, this shouldn't take too long.  Adamant Beetles are a tedious waste of your time and SP. They always come alone, they have a fuckton of HP and... that's it. They could Power Charge a Kill Rush, sure, but uhh... even with their absurd HP, you can just chain AOAs so they never get a turn. Not even remotely worth it, though. I don't go out of my way to avoid most Shadows, but these are definitely a thing I would just skip wholesale.  Ohey, this guy's just hanging out now. He's lost his friend and got a new one.  We can see his full moveset now, at least. Provoke is never going to come up, but Counter might the very, VERY first time you fight them I guess?  His friend there is more dangerous for sure, though. Marin Karin and Pulinpa can be an awkward combo to deal with. Dia makes them potentially tedious. Holy Arrow is by far the most dangerous Pierce attack right now; it has a base 60 Power which doesn't sound like a lot. What makes it dangerous is that it has a baked in Marin Karin effect. Same 25% base chance and everything. We have very easy access to this ourselves with Archangel. I might want to keep hold of that for some time later. It could be useful.  Haughty Maya are a Maya. He has a simple focus for one element, but... is really bad at it. Just Zio? Not even Zionga? How disappointing. They usually come in groups of 4 which makes them give semi-decentish EXP, I guess. After The Battle Shuffle Time has changed a bit, now too. There's an additional way that it can adjust things in the shell game aspect; cards will sometimes fly up off the screen at random and drop back in one-by-one from left to right. It might catch you off-guard all of once though. The order they go up is the same order they come back down.  As you might expect, the rewards we can get have gone up a step for the second half of Arqa. We can get up to rank 3 stuff now, which is mostly only useful now for healing and definitely EXP. Sword cards are super-outdated - they can give us weapons as useful and recent as Akihiko's default glove at best! - and Coins give ~2700-3200 yen. Or we could get a 1.6x EXP multiplier. Hmm.  Just from the sheer number of random trash that we can fight now, everyone (except Mitsuru and, to a lesser extent, Akihiko) levels up pretty nicely and often. This lets us snag Media and gives Yukari Charmdi relatively quickly. She won't get another spell for a while, though. Figures. Mass Destruction / Wiping All Out So, if the Steel Gigas is just a random shmuck now, what's our red Shadow?  Lustful Snakes are... not at all a threat. Like, Steel Gigas had durability and could maybe hurt someone.  Lustful Snake has very slightly high HP for the area, barely, and remarkably low Endurance. We can tear through these guys very fast, which is probably a good thing. Hama is their most dangerous thing for sure.  Plus they give around triple the normal EXP for the area, as you would expect for something that's a much higher level than everything else. This is its base value right now, even! tartarus_0d02 Whew, after fighting through all of that Fuuka managed to find the boss fight after all. It's a little close than expected, but that's all.  We do manage to find a new one-handed sword in the interim. And by "new" I mean it's the one that Mitsuru started with. This one is objectively better at least.  The default one has no additional effect, but the ones we can find do. Luck isn't great, but it'll be useful for if she ever finds something worth casting Marin Karin on.  And that's basically it for a while, really. The new Shadows are pretty much just a giant block of "meh" and that's it. Everything else is random chance that you have a slim chance at every floor.  But that's all we get, so whatever. 3 Shadows on the 47th floor, so this is an intermediary spot. This is a rather simple, obvious pattern really. The Poem For Everyone's Soul Take the opportunity to hand in a few requests while we've got a reasonable chance.  The Shadows you defeated to obtain them had an affinity for the Fortune Arcana. It's unfortunate that Persona must assume such a ridiculous form. Please accept your reward. This is thoroughly, thoroughly eh. It just reduces the chance of getting critted. It also sells for somewhere in the region of 40,000 yen. One of these is significantly more worthwhile, yes.  Oh right, she also wanted three of these. That's why I spent so much on it before. I have a great fondness for Jack Frost. May I... touch it? Oh my... this soft texture... ...I had been thinking about making a request related to Jack Frost... I'm glad I decided on this request instead. This doll is too adorable... Please accept your reward. Umugi Water are just a decent single-target healing item here. They are, in fact, different in Portable where they're a semi-acceptable muli-target healing item instead.  Since we're here, and we're higher than level 15 now, we'll finally make an Oberon (in this case, it was from a Shuffle Time Forneus + a Shuffle Time Yomotsu Shikome + our Berith). With Emperor at a minimum of Rank 3, he'll gain enough EXP to hit level 17 or higher. Level 17's a good one fortunately, since that gives him Mazio outright. Plus he starts with Media by default, so it's kinda hard to go wrong with this guy in a sense.  We'll also make a Pyro Jack (Unicorn + Zouchouten) to use that Fusion Skill, and we also get something quite nice.  This Persona seems to be holding something within itself. Things such as this occur every now and then. Go ahead and raise this Persona. A fairly decent number of Persona can have this happen, even.  Sometimes when you fuse a new one, this scene'll play out and we'll get a little Heart symbol on the stat page. Once Pyro Jack learns his final skill, which here is Agilao at level 19 for fun reference, he'll give us a piece of equipment we can't get anywhere else at all... for a long, LONG time when it has an alternative source. Which most don't, even! ...And yes, you can register him in the compendium with a absurdly low EXP value to that level and then just buy him back to get multiple copies ad infinitum. This sounds like a good way to make money, but... we'll see. We'll see! I'm not banking on it though. In terms of heart items that are obtainable right now, aside from Pyro Jack (level 14) giving us an accessory that lets you run away easier we have: Jack Frost (base level 8; final skill obtained at level 13) letting you nullify the Frozen status effect; Unicorn (base 11; final skill 15) making you immune to Poison; Fortuna (base 17; final skill 22) making you immune to Rage. The next one is available when we hit level 20 and that one is unironically very good and I'll definitely grab a copy or two of. Probably off-screen though.  Anyway, Oberon! Did you know that a Persona is another side of you? Just like you, it will grow and change. However, the rate at which it grows depends more on your Social Links than on fighting. I suggest you make many friends and deepen the bonds you've established. Please accept your reward. Luck +1; Agility +2. Well, at least we get 3 of 'em?  Next in the chain is fairly easy but, uh, we can't do it for a long, long time. Again. Vetala's base level is 24 so this'll sit here for quite a while!  You know what won't though? Shadows.  Emperor Golden Beetle x3 (Portable) Master of Tartarus / Danger Zone This is a new one. Normally these fixed fights don't give anyone the advantage for obvious reasons, but here the Gold Beetles always get the first turn...   They always use it the same way too. They just all cast Tarukaja on themselves. It's this instead of an Auto-Tarukaja passive for what I can only presume is Atlus being fair. See outside of Portable, you have no way of knowing if an enemy is buffed or debuffed just by checking it. The little symbols that appear when targetting something didn't exist until Persona 4.  Since I already know their elemental resistances, let's just set the girls to focus on healing. The beetles can hit pretty hard with that Tarukaja in place and all. Sure, we could remove it but eh.  Mitsuru's contributions to this fight are... basically non-existant, honestly. Gold Beetles are immune to Ice and resist Physicals. Like all Physicals. Slash, Strike AND Pierce are all resisted because why not. They're also immune to Charm. Mitsuru ain't helping without being a healer in this one.  They're neutral to Wind, so Yukari can at least contribute that way. It's just a shame that these guys hit VERY hard so we need both on healing duty to keep up with that.  Like, this is a basic attack albeit one with Tarukaja in play. Akihiko can Tarunda them to drop is to like ~40 damage or so but he has a better use.  Namely electrocuting these things, since they're weak to Electricity. ...Wait that did 11 damage. What. Yukari did quadruple that on a Neutra-- oh they have 22 Endurance. Okay that's ridiulous. Except that's not all. They're weak to Elec, sure, but they are also HIGHLY resistant to it. They're neutral to Fire/Wind and take sensible damage from those. This sounds really familiar for some reason...  AOAs hit them very hard, at least, since they pool everyone's Strength and weapons together to deal Almighty damage and all. Mercifully, these things also only have 250HP (and 250SP which will never, ever, EVER come close to dropping below 200 never mind running out).  Skill-wise, our shiny crowned friends really like 2/3rds of the Physical elements.  Torrent Shot is the best light Pierce skill in terms of raw damage. It's 2 or 3 hits on a single target, each of which has a base power of 50. So, it's functionally a base power 100 skill on a bad day. ...For reference, Holy Arrow is the second strongest light tier Pierce skill. Yes, really.  This is Torrent Shot without Tarukaja.  Remember how Kill Rush is very powerful? This is it with Tarukaja. A single hit of this is a little more potent than a 2 hit Torrent Shot but only just.  They use their SP exclusively on buffs. Mercifully they only have single-target stuff and don't have Rakukaja.  But, honestly? They never get a turn outside of the ambush. Except in Portable, where they got their HP doubled and that's basically it. Weird. tartarus_0d02 Aside from the shells, which are just money in item form, our reward here is a pair of Chewing Souls. Nice SP recovery for if we really need it.  We could carry on further up from here, but we'll take a bit of a break from Tartarus for now, I think, and come back later. Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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Huh, I'm pretty sure I was able to change the Tartarus BGM in Portable. Though, I always forgot about it.
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Sordas Volantyr posted:While I agree with you on the Nine, I've mostly seen primarily positive interpretations of the Ten of Swords. The only thing I've ever read that went into detail on the minor arcana said that the Nine of Swords basically meant murder/death, and the Ten of Swords was something along the lines of mass murder/war.
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StandardVC10 posted:Huh, I'm pretty sure I was able to change the Tartarus BGM in Portable. Though, I always forgot about it. I... thought the same. I may be confusing it with something else, though. Great LP, by the way!
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StandardVC10 posted:Huh, I'm pretty sure I was able to change the Tartarus BGM in Portable. Though, I always forgot about it. Jiru posted:I... thought the same. I may be confusing it with something else, though. Great LP, by the way! Same here. I never played the FES version either, so I'm definite it's an option in Portable.
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...Huh, was it? I remember it not being and that removing the sole reason to care about using that menu at all. Let's see... ...welp. Thanks memory
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I can't believe Ekoda is loving dead.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I can't believe Ekoda is loving dead. Eh he deserved it. We might see his animated corpse in the future, I can't remember.
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Dragon, not to sound needy, but if you want to keep up with the Arcana posts I've been making, I posted one for Death a bit ago. Anyway, two new party members, so let's get this show on the road: Mitsuru Kirijo Arcana: Empress Voiced By Tara Platt The Imperious Queen of Executions joins SEES on the field of battle at last; though at least she'll only be executing their enemies for now. Stat wise, Mitsuru is similar to Yukari, but swaps a bit of Magic for more Strength and Agility. As they're both the main casters of the party they do share a few similarities, but while Yukari leans towards healing with status heals and revivals down the road, Mitsuru is more offensive-aligned with only a few heals and most of her spells geared around increasing her damage output (Such as Mind Charge and Spirit Drain). Given her Ice Queen personality, I'm not even going to lead in with a lovely pun- Mitsuru is all about ice damage, starting with a multi-target ice spell right off the bat. She later learns Mind Charge, which gives her next magic attack a 2.5x damage upgrade, and Tentrafoo, which has a 25% chance to Panic all enemies. And then there's her most infamous spell, Marin Karin. Due to a mix of poor tactics management and the AI, Mitsuru's known in the community for spamming Marin Karin (leading to that funny little "Mitsuru I'm dying-" "MARIN KARIN" "Death is not a hunter unbeknownst to its prey..." comic), though I have heard that regardless of what Tactic she's on, Mitsuru will still use the spell at inopportune moments. Regardless of the Marin Karin however, Mitsuru is still a drat fine party member, being able to heal effectively while also being a magical powerhouse thanks to Mind Charge. Mitsuru's Persona is Penthesilea, the queen of the Amazons in Greek Mythology and the sister of Hippolyta. She fought for the Trojans in the Trojan War to atone for accidentally killing her sister, where she was killed by Achilles, who fell in love with her as she died. He fell so hard he killed someone who later badmouthed her after she was dead. The Greek Mythology angle is referenced in Penthesilea's Persona design by how one of the breasts in her breastplate has more armor on it- a reference to the myth that the Amazons would cut off one of their breasts to allow for greater movement while using bows and spears. Mitsuru's Persona even originally used a bow, before they gave her swords to reflect Mitsuru. Mitsuru is voiced by Tara Platt, who is funnily enough married to the Protagonist's VA, Yuri Lowenthal. Tara has a habit of being typecast as stotic badasses like Mitsuru, with some of her other notable roles being Noir in Tales of the Abyss, Female Voice 2 in Saints Row 3 (The Russian one), the Heroic Female Avatar in Xenoblade Chronicles X, Flavia and Miriel in Fire Emblem Awakening, and perhaps more recently, Kali Belladonna in RWBY. But Tara also got to show her range in Persona 3, because she also voices Elizabeth, a fact I find hilarious and a great example of Tara's range. Fuuka Yamagishi Arcana: Priestess Voiced By: Paula Tiso (Persona 3), Wendee Lee (P4 Arena and Persona Q) For better or worse, Fuuka is now SEES' navigator for the rest of the game. While Fuuka does have stats and equipment slots, they're purely superficial. Fuuka's Persona is purely support focused, meaning that all of the skills she learns are tied back to supporting the party. Fuuka's analysis has already been shown (She shows HP, SP, Weaknesses and Strengths alongside the enemy's skill pool), and she upgrades this with Support Scan (Shows what buffs/debuffs the enemy has), Third Eye (Shows if an attack will be absorbed, nullified or repelled) and Healing Wave (Party regains 15% HP when they go to a new floor). Fuuka shares the same experience pool as the protagonist, so she'll be gaining levels rather consistently. She doesn't really need many skills though, since Fuuka does her job admirably well. Fuuka's Persona is Lucia. Lucia bucks the trend of the Party Personas being based from Greek Mythology by instead being based on an actual historical figure. Saint Lucia or Saint Lucy is the Christian patron saint of the blind. She was a devout young woman whose belief in consecrating her virginity for God and whose urge to spend her life on alms enraged her pagan betrothed, who then reported her as a Catholic to the magistrate. After her refusal to burn a sacrifice to the emperor, she was immediately sentenced into execution. Christian traditions state that her body was filled with holy spirits that the guards were not able to take her in by force, and they decided to cut her throat and gouged her eyes. Even so, she was still able to see and continued prophesising. As a final act, the guard stabbed and killed her. Catholic and Orthodox Christians venerate her now as a martyr and saint. Symbolic of Saint Lucia, Lucia's design depicts her as a woman whose eyes and throat are covered with bandages, with her lower body being that of a giant glass sphere in the form of an eyeball. Fuuka's voice actress in Persona 3 is... not very good, which is a nice way of saying this performance was all over the drat shop. I think she was voiced in Persona 3 by Paula Tiso (Don't quote me on this, Paula's Wikipedia page doesn't list Persona 3 in her filmography and the SMT Wikia doesn't even know, simply saying Fuuka's VA is N/A). Paula's other known rules include Lulu in Final Fantasy X and X-2, Laughing Octopus in Metal Gear Solid 4, Jihl Nabaat in Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2, and Camilla in Fire Emblem Fates. I don't know who to blame for Paula's performance since she has turned in other good perfornaces, maybe it was just poor voice direction or they weren't sure on how they wanted her to sound. Either way, Fuuka is one of the only SEES members to be recast for Persona 4 Arena, being replaced with Wendee Lee. GoneRampant fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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I'm gonna blame the voice direction for Fuuka. Paula Tiso sounds fine for every other role I've heard her in.
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