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the democratic party has been actively hostile to its own base for a while this was their wakeup call. when they lost to the racist orange golemchild they had a chance to re-evaluate their course they've decided to double down on abusing and hating their constituents. why even bother with a party that hates you so much they intentionally let their members scam their constituents? why would you vote for a party that promises you public option on the reg and then invents excuses for keeping it away from you and letting you die of preventable diseases? gently caress THE DEMOCRATS
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Condiv posted:if you're still insisting on voting the "lesser evil" then you deserve what you get (being ground to dust under democrat jackboots instead of republican ones). let the loving neo-whig party die like they want to. instead of changing, they've decided that accelerationism will deliver the next election to them. they have embraced accelerationism, and voting for or attempting to change the dems on their road to an early grave will just waste your time and break your heart. get started on a new party and let the neo-whigs go the way of the dinosaur like they insist
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i wonder what kind of wonderful excuses the dems will accept for 5000% drug price increases drug cos:"well, the other day the planets were in full alignment, which destroyed all our pharmaceutical factories. in the meantime, enough insulin to keep you alive for a day will cost $50k" dems: "well gee bad things happen to good people sometimes price hike approved  "
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it's already obscenely bad and inexcusable. the time for waiting is long past over. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/epipen-s-69-cost-in-britain-shows-other-extreme-of-drug-pricing-itnvgvam
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Jul 24, 2017 09:54
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Condiv posted:if you're still insisting on voting the "lesser evil" then you deserve what you get (being ground to dust under democrat jackboots instead of republican ones). let the loving neo-whig party die like they want to. instead of changing, they've decided that accelerationism will deliver the next election to them. they have embraced accelerationism, and voting for or attempting to change the dems on their road to an early grave will just waste your time and break your heart. get started on a new party and let the neo-whigs go the way of the dinosaur like they insist peak suck zone
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Jul 24, 2017 09:56
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comedyblissoption posted:it's already obscenely bad and inexcusable. the time for waiting is long past over. quote:The price of an EpiPen two-pack has surged to more than $600 in the U.S., sparking a political outcry. While the manufacturer, Mylan NV, says it takes home about $274, in the U.K. a similar pair of injectors costs the state-funded National Health Service 53 pounds ($69). The numbers highlight the stark differences in the way drugs are priced in the U.S. and Britain, where the government negotiates with pharmaceutical companies to limit costs.  Condiv posted:i wonder what kind of wonderful excuses the dems will accept for 5000% drug price increases I imagine they'll compromise it down to being a mere advisory board, repackaged as some kind of "consumer information bureau." That way when they declare that there's price gouging without any legal consequences, consumers will have the information to decide whether or not the one company that controls the patents on the medicine they need to live deserves their business.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:
no loving surprise some corporate bigwig in europe wants to bring europe closer to the american system "oh europe why won't you do the smart, economic thing and let us gouge customers on life-saving medicine  "death to capitalism, death to the democrats
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Yinlock posted:peak suck zone no i think you'll find peak suck zone is demanding people cling to the democrats when the best they can come up with in 2017 is loving corporate tax cuts like seriously, just give up. dems can't even argue against republicans anymore. they are republicans, just ones that say "well gee donald trump, do you have to use so many racist words? can't we just bomb brown people and turn a blind eye to cops brutalizing minorities?"
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Jul 24, 2017 10:16
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Condiv posted:no i think you'll find peak suck zone is finding any excuse to not expend effort to improve anything
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Jul 24, 2017 10:17
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Wow, it turns out the solution to the situation is let everything burn(including the people I claim to care about) which coincidentally is also the solution that involves me sitting on my rear end doing nothing. what a coincidence!!!!
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voting for the democrats isn't improving anything dumbshit
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Jul 24, 2017 10:18
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Condiv posted:voting for the democrats isn't improving anything dumbshit that's why you change them you lazy idiot
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Hillary had to break the "not losing to a brain damaged rodeo clown" barrier so we could realize it existed, thnk u 4 ur service, Hllary Clington
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Yinlock posted:that's why you change them you lazy idiot hmm yes they're changing i can see it! look at all the change that's happened! i'm convinced, more effort to change the democrats will definitely change the democrats! how about, let the wagon circling idiots kill themselves off and work on a replacement party in the meantime since they are too stupid to do anything and we'd practically have to replace the entire party before they stopped fighting us? "nah lets waste all our time backing up dems so they can help ur-trump get elected in 2020" - yinlock, idiot-supreme Condiv has issued a correction as of 10:23 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Condiv posted:hmm yes they're changing i can see it! look at all the change that's happened! i'm convinced, more effort to change the democrats will definitely change the democrats! hahah this is exactly what i'm talking about you claim to hate capitalism but if you can't fix things immediately and with little effort you won't do poo poo
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Jul 24, 2017 10:22
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Condiv posted:how about, let the wagon circling idiots kill themselves off and work on a replacement party in the meantime since they are too stupid to do anything and we'd practically have to replace the entire party before they stopped fighting us? this doesn't work it has never worked
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Jul 24, 2017 10:23
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Yinlock posted:that's why you change them you lazy idiot lol youre supposed to do nothing and then we'll all be socialists
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Jul 24, 2017 10:24
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Bip Roberts posted:lol youre supposed to do nothing and then we'll all be socialists what could go wrong
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Yinlock posted:this doesn't work as opposed to trying to get the dems to do what we want, which is definitely not working either yeah thanks, i'll take my chances not propping up corporate tax cut party #2, you and your lesser evil bullshit can gently caress off
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Jul 24, 2017 10:25
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Condiv posted:as opposed to trying to get the dems to do what we want, which is definitely not working either you'll take your chances doing nothing while others do all the work primarying the dems and generally being good yes, i already understood that that's why i'm venting at you for getting on the highest horse of doing nothing at all
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the dem party has policies that are wildly popular just sitting at their doorstep and they refuse to consider them. medicare for all? they're "open" to it, in much the same way loving obama was for a public option. why should i bother to support a party that refuses to support anything its base or the loving american populace wants. nah, i'm not gonna bother voting for a party that clearly hates its base and the american populace as much as the democratic party does. if you do, you're a fool (and yinlock, you're a loving fool)
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Yinlock posted:you'll take your chances doing nothing while others do all the work primarying the dems and generally being good yes, i already understood that hmm yes, doing nothing at all is exactly what i proposed. no, you're just stupid and want to defend the dems. "surely if i vote for them just a little harder, the dems will do what I want!!! why can't you be as smart as me? " - yinlock
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Condiv posted:hmm yes, doing nothing at all is exactly what i proposed. no, you're just stupid and want to defend the dems. i'm not defending them at all, but you immediately pigeonholing me into the category of "filthy centrist" for calling you out as a lazy gently caress is expected yes
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Condiv posted:hmm yes, doing nothing at all is exactly what i proposed. no, you're just stupid and want to defend the dems. lol then what are you gonna do tough guy is it nothing i bet it's nothing your plan seems to be "wait for the problem to solve itself"
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Yinlock posted:lol then what are you gonna do tough guy quote:if you're still insisting on voting the "lesser evil" then you deserve what you get (being ground to dust under democrat jackboots instead of republican ones). let the loving neo-whig party die like they want to. instead of changing, they've decided that accelerationism will deliver the next election to them. they have embraced accelerationism, and voting for or attempting to change the dems on their road to an early grave will just waste your time and break your heart. get started on a new party and let the neo-whigs go the way of the dinosaur like they insist did you go to one of the charter schools dems love so much? cause you seem to be unable to read oh wait, no you just want to defend the dems. i didn't even call you a centrist yet and you're already trying to defend yourself from it cause you're an idiot and you know you're sucking up to baddems.
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Condiv posted:did you go to one of the charter schools dems love so much? cause you seem to be unable to read yeah like i said, it was "do nothing, wait for the party to magically destroy itself(it won't and will continue hindering leftist efforts greatly in it's current state) then bring in a new party that will definitely get lots of votes and won't be looked down upon like another green party" also lol you're the one who accused me of doing the most evil crime in the universe - defending the democrats - out of nothing
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Yinlock posted:yeah like i said, it was "do nothing, wait for the party to magically destroy itself(it won't and will continue hindering leftist efforts greatly in it's current state) you're the one saying we should keep giving the dems chances when they had 8 loving months to come up with a new direction, have had people yelling at them from all sides at all times, and the best they can come up with is corporate tax cuts. yes you're defending the democrats. and yes it should be a crime cause the loving democrats hate everyone that's not rich or a senator
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Condiv posted:you're the one saying we should keep giving the dems chances i said the dems need to be changed, not that we should ~give them a chance~, they're loving idiots and need to be primaried out immediately
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Yinlock posted:i said the dems need to be changed, not that we should ~give them a chance~, they're loving idiots and need to be primaried out immediately yes, by DSA members, not democratic party members proper. we should elect a series of bernies, not people working inside the democratic party machinery, cause that machinery is devoted to helping corporate america enslave us
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Condiv posted:yes, by DSA members, not democratic party members proper. we should elect a series of bernies, not people working inside the democratic party machinery, cause that machinery is devoted to helping corporate america enslave us yes i agree
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when i said change the dems i should have specified "replace" also i think i unloaded my own pet peeves with the american public at you for no reason and i apologize for that
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why do we need another political party, we already have the greens and the libertarians
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Yinlock posted:when i said change the dems i should have specified "replace" it's fine, i'm a bit hot under the collar today from this news (and i doubt the full reveal will help) and i could've been nicer in how i responded to you
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Condiv posted:it's fine, i'm a bit hot under the collar today from this news (and i doubt the full reveal will help) and i could've been nicer in how i responded to you yeah i can't blame you for being mad when the dems are determined to take the wrongest path possible
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deadgoon posted:why do we need another political party, we already have the greens and the libertarians jill stein will save america
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnuR3y8HUm8
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I'm just gonna put my votes in a hole in the ground and some will see them and smile.
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Bip Roberts posted:I'm just gonna put my votes in a hole in the ground and some will see them and smile. maybe you'll grow a vote tree
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