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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Venom Snake posted:

can we not post democrat bill mitchell in this thread please

how dare you dismiss the powerful head of the Democrats' Phalangist Caucus

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Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

zegermans posted:

for reals though I've had a post or two that I deleted halfway through because I was like "uh is this antisemitic?"

truly liberals are the real racists

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


zegermans posted:

"we have to talk to the unconverted"


then don't go to fox news lol no one who watches fox exists in reality as poll after poll shows.

fox news doesn't allow you talk to the unconverted. they warp your message to turn the uncoverted agaisnt you

you gotta build your own infrastructure again cause the dems let theirs rot away. fox news isn't a shortcut, it's a trap

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010


quote:

The New York congressman told Business Insider that he was able to effectively deliver his message on Carlson's show despite the host's reputation and that he wasn't sure why many Democratic leaders still avoided right-wing media, saying there was a larger appetite among the younger members for taking the party's message onto adversarial media.

quote:

"So what do you say we go, pull a few over to our side so we can stop sitting around and playing defense, and get some things done. Maybe that's an attitude that's more prevalent among those of us who haven't been doing it so long, I don't know."

quote:

Pablo Manriquez, a former Democratic National Committee staffer who helps train and book guests for appearances on cable news, said the party had "no interest in having a Fox News strategy."

"This is where growth is,"said Manriquez, who has been booking himself on Fox News since December. "While the same people who lost the election are on CNN and MSNBC every day."

these

loving

:psyboom:

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Pabloooooooooooooo

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
[me putting a hand to peter daou's face]

everything is okay now.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

zegermans posted:

for reals though I've had a post or two that I deleted halfway through because I was like "uh is this antisemitic?"

I think the problem is that the question of whether Israel "should" exist is hidden underneath a lot of Internet I/Pchat, below the surface

It is very important to me that Israel exists in some form or other, but I have a very long list of grievances with the way its government is run that prevent it from being the kind of state I'd get mad at people for criticizing, and Bibi has basically a permanent spot on my Top Five Most Hated People list.

Likud in general is just the fuckin' worst. Israel is a country with a strong socialist tradition (Zionism started off as a socialist philosophy and Israel was deep deep rose-red for the first few decades of its existence), but it's been run by neocons for like twenty years because the generation currently in charge of it is unable to grow out of a siege-mentality from their childhood that hasn't been accurate or relevant since maybe 1973. It's a huge waste.

I also have a number of very strong opinions about BDS which I studiously avoid bringing up because I don't want to spend all day defending them, but Schumer's attempt to criminalize it is ludicrously unconstitutional and pretty blatantly fascist.

Venom Snake posted:

can we not post democrat bill mitchell in this thread please

Hilltwitter excerpts are actually one of my favorite things ITT

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I don't have a huge issue with Dems going on Fox News

That poo poo plays at diners and such and thus touches some uninvested viewers

like what's the difference not like they're gonna be doing anything better with their time

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


GalacticAcid posted:

I don't have a huge issue with Dems going on Fox News

That poo poo plays at diners and such and thus touches some uninvested viewers

like what's the difference not like they're gonna be doing anything better with their time

we're talking about the same fox news that photoshops dems to be uglier right?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Office Pig posted:

these

loving

:psyboom:

I mean, there's something to be said for not wanting to preach to the choir, but going on Fox News is preaching to the guys trying to set fire to your church with everyone still inside

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
Democrats on fox news always appear so weak. no diner republican ever gonna vote for an alan colmes

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Condiv posted:

we're talking about the same fox news that photoshops dems to be uglier right?

lol true

god, all cable news is dogshit idk how anybody with the necessary cognitive capacity to wipe their own rear end can watch it

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

GalacticAcid posted:

I don't have a huge issue with Dems going on Fox News

That poo poo plays at diners and such and thus touches some uninvested viewers

like what's the difference not like they're gonna be doing anything better with their time

I'm going to prescribe you 2 hours of Fox and Friends and then call me in the morning

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

zegermans posted:

I'm going to prescribe you 2 hours of Fox and Friends and then call me in the morning

doctor assisted suicide is illegal

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


"the unconverted" are people who don't vote, not republicans

jesus christ

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

SKULL.GIF posted:

"the unconverted" are people who don't vote, not republicans

jesus christ

always relevant

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/889120076221120513

https://twitter.com/CandiceAiston/status/889267863709601792

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

SKULL.GIF posted:

"the unconverted" are people who don't vote, not republicans

jesus christ

ok but how is going on fox going to speak to them

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005


so much for the rational center

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


a lawyer

with a political science degree

No but seriously good on Chucky Shoom for making Candice Aiston this mad :allears:

I sincerely hope she does run for office. That sounds like awesomely good theater.

I want a debate moderator to ask her to defend this tweet and read out every single "gently caress YOU", out loud, slowly, with a gravely concerned tone and facial expression

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


zegermans posted:

ok but how is going on fox going to speak to them

:thunk:

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Only a few state houses to go!

https://www.alec.org/model-policy/d...vereign-states/

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


schumer and pelosi are just pissing everyone off today

what skilled leaders

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

loquacius posted:

a lawyer

with a political science degree

No but seriously good on Chucky Shoom for making Candice Aiston this mad :allears:

I sincerely hope she does run for office. That sounds like awesomely good theater.

I want a debate moderator to ask her to defend this tweet and read out every single "gently caress YOU", out loud, slowly, with a gravely concerned tone and facial expression

That didnt take much why is that such a sore spot for her

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Schumer is smart enough to put "wages" before "skillz"

He's still a smarmy dipshit tho.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011


Fat Charlie the Archangel
Sloped into the room
He said I have no opinion about this
And I have no opinion about that
Sad as a lonely little wrinkled balloon

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
uhhhh guys the atlantic says the dems message is a "populist economic agenda," idk what you're upset about??

quote:

Six months after Donald Trump’s inauguration, Democrats in Congress are ready to adopt a populist economic agenda that blends ideas long entrenched in the liberal mainstream, like infrastructure investment, with promises that have not been a focus of the Democratic Party in recent years such as a pledge to rein in the power of corporate monopolies.
lmao

quote:

The economic platform is aimed at bridging ideological and demographic divides in the party, and Democrats hope it will have widespread appeal, in rural and urban areas, and with centrist, moderate, and progressive voters alike.

which of these is listed last, hmmm :thunk:

quote:

The agenda nevertheless showcases the influence of the Democratic Party’s populist-progressive wing. It diagnoses the problems facing America in terms that sound far more like Bernie Sanders than Hillary Clinton, arguing that prosperity and influence have become too concentrated in the hands of a wealthy few to the detriment of working-class Americans. One policy plank promises that Democrats will start “cracking down on corporate monopolies”—an ambition that prior to the 2016 presidential election would be far more likely to be championed by a progressive firebrand like Senator Elizabeth Warren, who has long warned of the dangers of market concentration, than most rank-and-file Democrats in Congress.

here i am, writing for the atlantic, unironically saying this platform sounds more like bernie lmfao

ex post facho has issued a correction as of 18:03 on Jul 24, 2017

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Uncle Wemus posted:

That didnt take much why is that such a sore spot for her

hillary. admitting she messed up in any way is stabbing her in the back

hillary is julius caeser and schumer is brutus

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

loquacius posted:

Hilltwitter excerpts are actually one of my favorite things ITT

Iv gotta deal with these people IRL sometimes and it makes me want to die

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Condiv posted:

schumer and pelosi are just pissing everyone off today

what skilled leaders

Once again triangulation just pissed off both sides

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

quote:

Promises to confront monopoly power are only one part of the wide-ranging platform the new Democratic agenda sets out. At the core of the agenda is a pledge that the party will create jobs, raise wages and income, while lowering the cost of living, for American workers and families.

“A Better Deal” is the product of months of meetings and deliberation between party leaders, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, other House and Senate Democrats, and policy experts representing the full spectrum of liberal ideology.

not a single word about healthcare or a living wage, anywhere



Willa Was Always Right

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

The anti-BDS legislation and today's hollow turd of a platform makes me think that the Democrats rightward shift is only going to accelerate. Their fundraising recently has dropped off a cliff. Their donor base is shrinking. I can only imagine that's from smaller contributors leaving the party in disgust, leaving them increasingly dependent on big donors. I can easily see that going exponential as they increasingly become the mouthpieces of a handful of unhinged billionaires to a degree that dwarfs what they are now which will only reinforce that cycle.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

ex post facho posted:

not a single word about healthcare or a living wage, anywhere



Willa Was Always Right

Check said $15 min wage

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Frijolero posted:

Schumer is smart enough to put "wages" before "skillz"

He's still a smarmy dipshit tho.

He's an intelligent politician; he's still evil, but he's not an idiot

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Check said $15 min wage

he said living wage, not $15 wage

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Check said $15 min wage

there's always gotta be a public option or two

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Iron Twinkie posted:

The anti-BDS legislation and today's hollow turd of a platform makes me think that the Democrats rightward shift is only going to accelerate. Their fundraising recently has dropped off a cliff. Their donor base is shrinking. I can only imagine that's from smaller contributors leaving the party in disgust, leaving them increasingly dependent on big donors. I can easily see that going exponential as they increasingly become the mouthpieces of a handful of unhinged billionaires to a degree that dwarfs what they are now which will only reinforce that cycle.

the issue with basing everything on what the national level does is that it overshadows efforts going on in state and local groups. while we know the guys at the top need to burn as an example until 2018 its impossible to see whats happening in swing and red states, which is where that shift will really matter.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
only the new most craven, milquetoast centrist could write a platform filled with so much dross and pablum while simultaneously aping the most transformative legislation in american history with the words "a better deal"

where's CC been lately? :thunk:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/ihave3angelz/status/889309791495098371

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i fukken love tax credits!!!

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