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Bored As gently caress posted:Jesus Christ people are so loving stupid.
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shyduck posted:Remember this tweet from the other day? Not surprising considering his job is to blow smoke up everyones rear end while leading the previously Steve Jobs worshipping retards
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Woof Blitzer posted:Not surprising considering his job is to blow smoke up everyones rear end while leading the previously Steve Jobs worshipping retards He's pissing off a lot of Artificial Intelligence guys too with his stuff about how dangerous it is.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:05
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Holy  that Kushner statement. If there was ever a statement put out by Trump's Ministry of Propaganda, that was it."Mr. Trump won the election simply because he ran a better and smarter campaign.". Daddy in law has him by the nutsack.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:06
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Actual car makers like BMW are going to poo poo all over Musky in the coming two years.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:07
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 Congressman Blake Farenthold (blob on right) wants to settle the healthcare debate "Aaron Burr-style" with Susan Collins. I think I'd put my money on her. https://thinkprogress.org/gop-congressman-blames-health-care-struggle-on-repugnant-republican-female-senators-ca4a2f32c5d7
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Jul 24, 2017 19:07
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CBJSprague24 posted:Holy Not many people would be willing to take Trump's sloppy seconds
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What is the GiP gestalt on Iran? The current agreement gives them little to no oversight over some of the most important sites and personnel and freed up a lot of cash for a hostile regime. Obviously we don't want yet another war, and I can understand certifying their compliance to buy some time, but the status quo seems untenable if we have goals that involve keeping them from acquiring nukes or increasing their ability to finance proxy wars and terrorism abroad. Maybe, having pissed away most international good will and stretching our military like Mike T.V. in a taffy pulling machine, there is no good option, but giving them access to billions in cash while they "self-inspect" the main center of their development program (Parchin, iirc) is pretty lousy.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:09
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Derek Dominoe posted:What is the GiP gestalt on Iran? Persian chicks are hot as gently caress. 
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CBJSprague24 posted:Holy
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Jul 24, 2017 19:17
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I'd rather we normalize relations with Iran rather than deal with Saudi Arabia's bullshit, personally.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:20
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Casimir Radon posted:I hope they get him lying in an open session. If Donnie pardons him that might just be enough to get the 25th invoked and toss him out on his fat rear end before he can sign anymore. Republicans won't back impeachment proceedings, the only thing left in the political system is slavish dedication to one's party no matter what. He won't get impeached until the House and Senate get flipped, so 2018 at the minimum.
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cuck, cuck, goose https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/889551413239570436
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Jul 24, 2017 19:24
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If we can stop whipping our dick into Iran's face there's a lot of popular support for getting the hard line assholes out of power and becoming a pretty decent country. Which is of course exactly the opposite of what Donnie Dumbfuck and his cohorts will do so welp, try again in twenty years or so?
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Jul 24, 2017 19:27
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Hey remember that Iran was actively helping us get AQ dudes until the 'Axis of Evil' speech. Its almost like we've hosed with this country for 60 years and they have literally every reason in the world to not like us.
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Poland’s President Vetoes 2 Proposed Laws Limiting Courts’ Independencequote:WARSAW — Following tumultuous protests, and warnings from the European Union, Poland’s president vetoed two proposed laws on Monday that would have given the right-wing governing party direct control of the judiciary. However: quote:Later in the morning, Mr. Duda said that he would sign a third bill, which reorganizes Poland’s local judiciary, giving the justice minister the power to select the heads of the local courts and — in certain cases — even to direct judges to particular cases. Thankfully: quote:Mr. Duda said he was troubled by provisions that gave the country’s chief prosecutor and justice minister power over the choice of high court justices. He was also upset that the bill was pressed through Parliament without being presented to his office for consultations.
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Derek Dominoe posted:What is the GiP gestalt on Iran? The current agreement gives them little to no oversight over some of the most important sites and personnel and freed up a lot of cash for a hostile regime. Obviously we don't want yet another war, and I can understand certifying their compliance to buy some time, but the status quo seems untenable if we have goals that involve keeping them from acquiring nukes or increasing their ability to finance proxy wars and terrorism abroad. The nuclear deal exclusively covers Iran's ability to acquire nuclear weapons. It's by design that it doesn't cover Iran sponsoring terrorism, supporting Shia proxies like Hezbollah, or intervening directly with their own militias in other ME states (Iraq and Syria). There would have been no deal with Iran otherwise, both because Iran wouldn't have agreed to such a deal, and because the other powers supporting the sanctions regime that forced Tehran into these negotiations were not all opposed to these Iranian activities (Russia, China to a lesser degree). It's purely about nuclear weapons, and it only abolished the sanctions placed on Iran for seeking nukes. Some of these sanctions froze access to money that Iran earned for selling oil. By abolishing the sanctions, Iran gained access to money that was legally theirs anyway. So the deal should only be judged on the merits of preventing Iran from getting nukes. And on this front, basically everybody agrees that it is effective, with the exception of the Iran war hawks. Iran isn't allowed to self-inspect Parchin. Some reports say that Iranians are allowed to collect the samples from Parchins themselves, as long as an International Atomic Energy Agency inspector is present. But that's only an unverified leak, and even if it was true, it would still be far away from "self-inspection". The other members of the P5+1 who negotiated the deal with Tehran all have a vested interest in preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, yet they agree with the IAEA that Iran complies with the deal. Even if you suspect that Russia would shield Iran's nuclear program, Europe is well within range of Iran's ballistic missiles, and they don't have an alliance with Tehran that could make them cover for Iran. So it comes down to this: Do you believe the US Iran hawks, or do you believe the IAEA and the other world powers. Torrannor fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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^Good post. I think all that's valid, but I do wonder how long Iran's regime can stay afloat if starved for cash. Genuine question. Might not matter since even Best Korea managed to build a nuke. redneck nazgul posted:I'd rather we normalize relations with Iran rather than deal with Saudi Arabia's bullshit, personally. I'd rather watch them both burn but orange juche posted:Persian chicks are hot as gently caress. I mean I share all of the concerns about the environmental impact of fracking and wastewater injection but low oil prices are burning a lot of Middle Eastern assholes' mountains of cash so Oklahoma seems like a worthwhile trade-off. Sax Offender fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Jul 24, 2017 19:33
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Iran could probably last a while given it's closeness with Iraq and their previously demonstrated willingness to subvert international sanctions for Iran
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Derek Dominoe posted:What is the GiP gestalt on Iran? Iran being openly hostile and seeking the bomb is bad. Helping enable the Saudi's and the rest of the dipshits in the region in their jihad against Shia is also bad Everyone involved is an rear end in a top hat but Iran at least has a no poo poo reason to hate and distrust the US, also orange juche posted:Persian chicks are hot as gently caress.
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I look forward to visiting Iran when I'm like 70 because by then their baby boomers will have died off.
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Bolow posted:Iran being openly hostile and seeking the bomb is bad. Iran probably wouldn't be so hostile and so excited to get the bomb if the world's biggest nuclear power wasn't constantly raring to go to war with them. In the 21st century, the only way to ensure your nation's sovereignty is to be a nuclear power, otherwise it takes a negligible amount of effort for the US or Russia to just completely dismantle your country with no repercussions. edit: that's also not going into how the Republicans like to crow about Iran being a destabilizing force in the region, when they were one of the first nations to commit ground troops to push back ISIS's advancement into Iraq. Not to mention the constant saber-rattling and random invasions of neighbors that Saudi Arabia and Israel are constantly doing. At least Iran has elections of a sort, that's a huge step up over the Saudis. Internet Wizard fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Derek Dominoe posted:What is the GiP gestalt on Iran? The current agreement gives them little to no oversight over some of the most important sites and personnel and freed up a lot of cash for a hostile regime. Obviously we don't want yet another war, and I can understand certifying their compliance to buy some time, but the status quo seems untenable if we have goals that involve keeping them from acquiring nukes or increasing their ability to finance proxy wars and terrorism abroad. Much like vietnam, we've been backing the wrong horse in the region for decades and given the general competence of US foreign policy since WW2 we will eventually throw the Saudis under a bus, give the entire royal family the Diem treatment and THEN pick a fight with Iran.
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bird food bathtub posted:I wonder how much of the diehard MAGAwarrior Tea-hadist support one Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III can manage to peel off by being a stupendous poo poo bag and cracking down on legal marijuana. Won't happen among the olds because "IT'S THE DEVIL'S GATEWAY DRUG" and all, but I have to think some of the poo poo head reddit supporters will change their minds about supporting him. They'll never admit to that of course, they'll just go silent and pretend to not care about politics anymore but that's probably the best this timeline has to offer. Olds aren't against it as you think. I live in a retirement community(in Florida) that voted 78% in favor of legalization. Only racists and crazies are still in favor of keeping it illegal.
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The Iranians are terrible actors and I'm profoundly unhappy that we unfroze that 200 or 400 billion of theirs. They pretty immediately poured their newfound liquid assets into Syria, making the conflict a great deal worse and spawning the flood of refugees, and so on and so forth. I'm also not in love with some of the compliance mechanisms. Still, I also really don't want nuclear weapons in the hands of the Islamic Republic. Bad enough Pakistan and India do. And if this agreement accomplishes that, which I expect it will, then the other consequences are the inevitable result of compromise.
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TBeats posted:Trump speaking about HC "speaking" is a little much, parsing this is a nightmare. e; Wonder if anyone he's talking about would have insurance at all without ACA.
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Jul 24, 2017 20:42
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These people are standing behind trump Thom and the Heads posted:every day normal americans
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Jul 24, 2017 20:43
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That woman needs to reset her mass effect eyebrow sliders.
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Jul 24, 2017 20:49
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TBeats posted:These people are standing behind trump
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Jul 24, 2017 20:50
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Is that a Paul Ryan impersonator?
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Blind Rasputin posted:That woman needs to reset her mass effect eyebrow sliders. That feeling when you become an internet meme
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Jul 24, 2017 20:51
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Paul Ryan's stunt double.
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Pesticide20 posted:Is that a Paul Ryan impersonator? Nah it's his stunt cock. I didn't get a chance to hear Kushner speak so the belief that he sounds like Gilbert Godfried remains. Thanks John Oliver!
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TBeats posted:That feeling when you become an internet meme 
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Did a Twitter search for "eyebrows". Twitter delivered
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cowboy elvis posted:The resistance to legal weed baffles me. So much money is being left on the table. The lobbying's mostly from --
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TBeats posted:These people are standing behind trump I don't think eyebrows work like that.
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MrYenko posted:I know the dispensaries in WA state very specifically do not make any copies of, nor do they note anything about your ID (required to prove age, I think,) but they also only accept cash, so there is no way for the Feds to chase down a customer. (And more importantly for them, no records for them to keep, outside of sales records for taxes.) Dispensaries take cash because banks, out of a reasonable fear of federal investigation and seizure, refuse to take their money. If you've ever wondered why they seem to be robbery-magnets, it's not because the customers are on the devil's lettuce. I don't know whether the nonmedical dispensaries will also have a registration system, but even if they do, prop 64 also allows everyone to grow "up to six plants" in your home, so there you go.
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