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Alas not even a setting which presupposes the absence of any organic lifeform which would want or even need to eat can protect you from Yoko Taro's unbridled cannibal lust.
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Abhorrence posted:At least 2B is happy in that ending. there haven't really been many bad endings for 2B so far. Hell, she even seemed pretty cool with things as she died from mackerel poisoning
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Jul 24, 2017 21:57
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I would like to point out that the space babies are born from their salt mom, who is created by a Flower made by the watchers we never actually see one just their creations. We just know that they are so Bad Zero went nope and tried to destroy their creation which brought her back to life. Though The whole Salt mom thing might explain the whole no sex goddess thing. In that if they do a Space baby is born or they start to become salt mom
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Jul 24, 2017 22:02
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Bruceski posted:Speak not the Watchers, Lalala
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Jul 24, 2017 22:08
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Bruceski posted:Speak not the Watchers, Fish
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Rangpur posted:Alas not even a setting which presupposes the absence of any organic lifeform which would want or even need to eat can protect you from Yoko Taro's unbridled cannibal lust. And those old-model androids even bleed!
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Jul 24, 2017 22:41
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Rangpur posted:Alas FTFY
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Jul 24, 2017 23:04
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Dr. Snark posted:FTFY Death? I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:12
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Stephen9001 posted:Death? 
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Stephen9001 posted:Death? I will refer you to the Flower resurrections.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:19
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Stephen9001 posted:Death? Given Nier and Darkengard 3, no, all death means is you're coming back as an eldritch abomination if you're lucky. If you're unlucky you end up in one of those weapon stories  New drinking game, take a shot every time someone's soul is bound for eternity in a weapon.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Given Nier and Darkengard 3, no, all death means is you're coming back as an eldritch abomination if you're lucky. I call being the king who killed all the animals and lived happily ever after.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:23
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The Dark Id posted:
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Oh, I’ll probably wander back to the village. I have plenty on my plate there. 
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I was really disappointed that they didn’t call this ending "The [G]reatest of Feasts." It would have been a fantastic callback.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:08
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Sometimes, I can't tell if good ole' YT hates happiness or loves misery. Or both.
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U-DO Burger posted:Hell, she even seemed pretty cool with things as she died from mackerel poisoning As would I, it makes for the tastiest nigiri  (with the exception of fatty tuna, but I'm not made of G)
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Jul 25, 2017 00:23
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I don't know, knowing that there will be a year or an existence even if we gently caress off to fish makes the game feel a bit cheap.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:33
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This will be the canon ending leading into NieR 3, right?
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They'll all be canon by Dragon Break. Mikhail is actually Akatosh.
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So we've had clown robots, philosopher robots, kung-fu master robots, opera singer robots, cultist robots, forester robots, medieval kingdom robots, moose robots, dongless prettyboy robots, Godzilla robots, and now, to round it all out, rage zombie robots. Am I missing anything? Intended for that to be included under medieval kingdom robots but I suppose it is an important enough variation to get its own category. VVVVVVV InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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InequalityGodzilla posted:So we've had clown robots, philosopher robots, kung-fu master robots, opera singer robots, cultist robots, forester robots, medieval kingdom robots, moose robots, dongless prettyboy robots, Godzilla robots, and now, to round it all out, rage zombie robots. Baby robots.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:So we've had clown robots, philosopher robots, kung-fu master robots, opera singer robots, cultist robots, forester robots, medieval kingdom robots, moose robots, dongless prettyboy robots, Godzilla robots, and now, to round it all out, rage zombie robots. Hey, weren't there rage zombie robots under the amusement park? I think they still had their masks on, though.
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Glazius posted:Hey, weren't there rage zombie robots under the amusement park? I think they still had their masks on, though. Masks couldn't have been on that much, since their attack is vomiting.
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Junpei posted:Sometimes, I can't tell if good ole' YT hates happiness or loves misery. Or both. I think he just finds happy endings... problematic, especially in this kind of game. Keep in mind, a valid analysis of Yoko Taro's games up till now has been him responding to an industry wide acceptance of "justified murder." Drakengard in particular was meant to be a deconstruction of the Dynasty Warrior games, and their ilk, where a few people basically slaughter thousands of soldiers without batting an eye. Taro's contention was that you'd have to be some kind of absolute psychotic to do that without ending up a broken shell of a man (or woman), so he came up with Caim, and then gave him comrades to match - a psychotic cannibal, a racist old man, a child, and a pedophile who is otherwise kind of an okay guy I guess? Likewise, he thought about it, and decided that people like that don't really deserve a happy ending - which is why even the happiest ending of Drakengard is bittersweet at best. This game does, by most accounts, have an ending that is actually happy, and not just "esoteric happy ending" or bittersweet. Haven't actually beat the game myself, so I can't really say.
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apocalypticCritic posted:This game does, by most accounts, have an ending that is actually happy, and not just "esoteric happy ending" or bittersweet. Haven't actually beat the game myself, so I can't really say. The ending is happy. And also... interesting.
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GOI posted:I would like to point out that the space babies are born from their salt mom, who is created by a Flower made by the watchers we never actually see one just their creations. We just know that they are so Bad Zero went nope and tried to destroy their creation which brought her back to life. They also are such bad news they made Caim kill for a reason other than pure pleasure. Mainly the reason of "OH WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS?"
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The Dark Id posted:...Oh. No. It that mini-map reading was correct. The City Ruins is absolutely FLOODED with extremely aggressive machines. And more are being air-dropped in as we speak. I think we might have a problem on our hands. Are the machines really being cannibals though? They were manufactured by a different species and they're constantly being distinguished from the androids. Down to having two different terms used.
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Now that there are basically 5 games in the series, I wonder if Yoko Taro has a sort of end game in plan for this grand story, or if he makes up most of it as he goes. I can see it going both ways really.
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I don't think he saw a Drakengard III happening, let alone a sequel to NIER. He just ties them together (Or not) as each one happens.
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LordAba posted:Now that there are basically 5 games in the series, I wonder if Yoko Taro has a sort of end game in plan for this grand story, or if he makes up most of it as he goes. I can see it going both ways really. I think every game goes as if it's the last one. Nier followed up ending E and had the whole humanity going extinct thing (leaving aside the ones who had the sense to hide on the moon, anyway), Drakengard III repeated the last boss fight and revealing the origin of everything, and Nier Automata has things that come up later. They don't so much build to an endgame as have each game act as a valid endgame.
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The machines having teeth and going apeshit with them is a pretty great twist. I knew I could count on .Kavak posted:I don't think he saw a Drakengard III happening, let alone a sequel to NIER. He just ties them together (Or not) as each one happens. That's probably for the best. Grand, unified megastories sound awesome in theory, but when writers try that out, they tend to hemorrhage a lot of their audience before they finish, assuming they even get that far.
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Man, can you imagine something like all the little heads on the goliath bipeds eating androids?The Dark Id posted:Pascal zooms off into the sky and leaves us to our devises in this
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So if you disconnect you go crazy unless your name is Pascal. If you stay connected you turn into a psychotic Ken doll who either thinks blood sport is the pinnacle of human existence or you get a bunch of rad tattoos and have a really fancy...dinner table? On some building? Things seem to be getting more and more hosed.
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Solitair posted:The machines having teeth and going apeshit with them is a pretty great twist. I knew I could count on Big megastories tend to also drag out every possible plot line, so eventually it feels like nothing ever gets resolved and none of the characters actually change. And then when a plot line finally is resolved, the resolution is almost never worth the wait. The nice thing about the Drakenier series is each game stands on its own, with just enough to tie them together that it can be seen as a continuous story. Versus, say, Xenosaga, where nothing is resolved until they run out of budget and suddenly everything is resolved but nobody cares.
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axeil posted:Things seem to be getting more and more hosed. The most hosed is the ending where Adam and Eve are both dead, so the new controller of the machine network is Jean-Paul.
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axeil posted:So if you disconnect you go crazy unless your name is Pascal. Do while loops on an outside simulation of human culture can get weird when left to run amok.
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axeil posted:So if you disconnect you go crazy unless your name is Pascal. Worth pointing out that no machine in Pascal's village is connected to the network, so clearly some others don't go crazy when they disconnect.
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apocalypticCritic posted:Worth pointing out that no machine in Pascal's village is connected to the network, so clearly some others don't go crazy when they disconnect. Pascal's village is a lot older than the BECOME AS GODS guys. I think they went nuts because they were traumatically disconnected due to Adam getting clipped rather than disconnecting on their own. They coulda not gone nuts if they had a non-insane support system, but instead they had the Church of Some Dead Guy.
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I wonder if there's fan art out there of 2B as a grizzled fisher-android.
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