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Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Tars Tarkas posted:

It's a short film/commercial but still, Siri....



Oh poo poo son! It's Quadraxis!

The Rock, while cool, is over exerting himself and his exposure but needs to pick his projects a bit better or what he develops. He's got good potential and incredible goodwill/credit built up but can't be doing more Baywatches and stuff to prolong the quality of his career.

Conversely, whatever, cash in as hard as you can and most will stick.

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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

I enjoyed Valerian so I'm glad it won't bankrupt the dude. Maybe he can make another one.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Peanut President posted:

I enjoyed Valerian so I'm glad it won't bankrupt the dude. Maybe he can make another one.
Its probably not going to happen. It seems like EuropaCorp just diverted the financial risk to outside investors. They probably won't be able to get anybody to invest in another film unless it does well internationally. Somebody is almost certainly still losing money from Valerian flopping.

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
When these box office underperform happens, who is losing money? just the local distributor?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Femur posted:

When these box office underperform happens, who is losing money? just the local distributor?

Whoever paid to distribute.

If the film does underperform while Luc Besson, for instance, is personally insulated as is his studio, it would be hard to sell a subsequent Luc Besson joint to those distributors who got burned so in many ways it is extremely similar results to if it had underperformed for the studio that had hired him.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I'm really wondering who thought this would be a good investment. Good on the studio for pawning off the risk to rubes though.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that was my thinking. i don't think they have those german former loopholes mr. uwe boll used to use.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Groovelord Neato posted:

that was my thinking. i don't think they have those german former loopholes mr. uwe boll used to use.
No, those are gone thanks to him, which is why he tried to Kickstart a film and then when that failed, announced his retirement

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate
Besson is also the current King of the an action movie. I'm sure they can make a Taken 4 if they really need money.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Can they really? Liam Neeson is about six months away from using a walking stick fulltime. No way that franchise works with another lead.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

well why not posted:

Can they really? Liam Neeson is about six months away from using a walking stick fulltime. No way that franchise works with another lead.

Magic happens in the cutting room :shepface:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

FlamingLiberal posted:

Valerian's final weekend total was $17 mil, which is not even 10% of its $180 mil budget (which probably doesn't include ad costs)

To put that in perspective, it did about as well in the US on opening weekend as Ghost in the Shell and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword did and sold way way less tickets than noted disappointments Power Rangers and The Mummy:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/c...nd-of-the-Sword

It's also flopping harder than Baywatch which is just embarrassing. At least it's doing better than Monster Trucks, I guess??? :shrug:

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Someone needs to edit this, the action scenes of Quantum of Solace and the baseball scene from Catwoman together and use it as a weapon against epileptics across the globe.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

well why not posted:

Can they really? Liam Neeson is about six months away from using a walking stick fulltime. No way that franchise works with another lead.

I don't know, The Foreigner looks like it'll be taken but with a dead daughter and Jackie Chan.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Casimir Radon posted:

The best thing about RP1 is people younger than ne telling me I just don't remember the 80s. No I don't (Born at the end of '88) and neither do you.

People did a lot of coke and voted for Ronald Reagan.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



well why not posted:

Can they really? Liam Neeson is about six months away from using a walking stick fulltime. No way that franchise works with another lead.

They made it into a NBC TV show.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Davros1 posted:

They made it into a NBC TV show.

A show that was such a mess in its first season that when NBC renewed it for another year, they fired the showrunner and six of the eight regular cast members.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Ready Player One is one of the worst books I've probably ever read. That poo poo was like some grade school level writing. And it confirmed just how idiotic the majority of reviewers who rated extremely positive are. Like seriously dude it was one of the most dumb (not in a good way), power fantasy books with a self-insert main character and he's just the coolest cuz he knows everything about 80s nerd poo poo. Plus don't even get me started on the one girl character who is the love interest or the extremely racist Japanese dudes.

The trailer also looked like poo poo to be honest. The voice over was loving awful, but thats basically out of the book. I saw that Cline is the screenwriter on this, so you already know its gonna be a bunch of bullshit on that front. Visually it looks alright, but MAN even after using real VR it just makes it look so loving lame.

Its gonna bad yall

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Its gonna bad yall

And yet it'lll clear $500m, if not $1b, and we'll all have to suffer through nerd culture empowerment (while conveniently ignoring the homophobic, misogynistic, and racist parts of it). But y'know, The Iron Giant's in it so the movie gets me.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

GrandpaPants posted:

And yet it'lll clear $500m, if not $1b, and we'll all have to suffer through nerd culture empowerment (while conveniently ignoring the homophobic, misogynistic, and racist parts of it). But y'know, The Iron Giant's in it so the movie gets me.

I hope it just does bad, but I know they got all the marketing money in the world + Spielberg.

Nerd culture empowerment needs to die

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

GrandpaPants posted:

And yet it'lll clear $500m, if not $1b

I could see it going either way, but I think this is the source of a huge chunk of resentment I'm reading, here and elsewhere. This sort of foreknowledge that you're going to come face to face with a trifecta of outlier exposure (didn't like the widely praised original book, didn't like the widely liked movie trailer, didn't dig the likely-successful movie) is enough to drive someone low-level mad.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I hope it just does bad, but I know they got all the marketing money in the world + Spielberg.

Nerd culture empowerment needs to die

Well it might bomb overseas, its not like china has nostalgia for that stuff.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

The REAL Goobusters posted:

one girl character who is the love interest

please, how could you forget the reveal that his best friend with the white male avatar was actually a black lesbian in real life and his brief anger over it.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I hope it just does bad, but I know they got all the marketing money in the world + Spielberg.

Nerd culture empowerment needs to die

Nerd culture empowerment sounds like a good thing to me. All those nerd kids growing up get to have their hobbies more culturally accepted and maybe help them break out of being socially awkward because they don't have to hide that they play Magic: The Gathering. I think the sexism and other bad -isms will sort themselves out as nerd stuff becomes more mainstream, not that it'll be an easy road. But this isn't the thread for that; I only bring it up because I don't think "nerd culture empowerment" isn't what Ready Player One is about. RP1 is about jamming a needle full of nostalgia into the veins of grown adults who were born in the 80's. It's just a bad power fantasy wrapped in nostalgia.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
While the topic is on Ernest Cline, I am going to take this excuse to inform everyone of his spoken word poetry

Ernest Cline posted:

But I don't wanna watch this misogynist he-man woman-hater porn.
I want porno movies that are made with guys like me in mind:
Guys who know that the sexiest thing in the world
is a woman who is smarter than you are.

You can have the whole cheerleading squad,
I want the girl in the tweed skirt and the horn-rimmed glasses:
Betty Finnebowski, the valedictorian.
Oh yes.
First I want to copy her Trig homework,
and then I want to make mad, passionate love to her
for hours and hours
until she reluctantly asks if we can stop
because she doesn't want to miss Battlestar Galactica.
Summa cum laude, baby!
That is what I call erotic.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Bazinga Nerd after seeing Pixels: THEY USED ALL OF THE THINGS I LOVED IN MY CHILDHOOD :mad:

Bazinga Nerd after reading Ready Player One: THEY USED ALL OF THE THINGS I LOVED IN MY CHILDHOOD :circlefap:

Electromax
May 6, 2007

BJPaskoff posted:

I only bring it up because I don't think "nerd culture empowerment" isn't what Ready Player One is about. RP1 is about jamming a needle full of nostalgia into the veins of grown adults who were born in the 80's. It's just a bad power fantasy wrapped in nostalgia.

I doubt people here care it exists, they care that it's popular and makes money. Tons of crappy fanfic exists much worse than RP1 but it's 'harmless' because it isn't widely exposed. There's also always posts like 'I could write a better book in a weekend!' which I think comes from a similar place.

GrandpaPants posted:

we'll all have to suffer through nerd culture empowerment

If you check out the comic movie/GoT discussions around here you'll find that's been going on a while now. Some people seem to relish that suffering/hate-watching that stuff. Personally I don't really see a lot to fear in 'nerd culture' any more than NFL fandom or grunge flannel or Die Hard 3. It's just different subject matter people worship.

'internet culture/etiquette' and easy nostalgia, I think there's something to be said there for sure, but I don't think that's a nerdy refuge by any means anymore.

e: Unrelated but I'd love to see an Anathem movie. Guess it would be hard translating Stephenson's stuff into digestible lengths though.

Electromax fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jul 24, 2017

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

weekly font posted:

Bazinga Nerd after seeing Pixels: THEY USED ALL OF THE THINGS I LOVED IN MY CHILDHOOD :mad:

Bazinga Nerd after reading Ready Player One: THEY USED ALL OF THE THINGS I LOVED IN MY CHILDHOOD :circlefap:

Ready Player One is American Psycho, but instead of disgustingly detailed chapters of 80s fashion and gore, it's pop culture.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

BJPaskoff posted:

Nerd culture empowerment sounds like a good thing to me. All those nerd kids growing up get to have their hobbies more culturally accepted and maybe help them break out of being socially awkward because they don't have to hide that they play Magic: The Gathering. I think the sexism and other bad -isms will sort themselves out as nerd stuff becomes more mainstream, not that it'll be an easy road. But this isn't the thread for that; I only bring it up because I don't think "nerd culture empowerment" isn't what Ready Player One is about. RP1 is about jamming a needle full of nostalgia into the veins of grown adults who were born in the 80's. It's just a bad power fantasy wrapped in nostalgia.

I got some news for you buddy. Video games are already mainstream. This is why there is now a distinction between normies/casuals and the hardcore gamers.

This book is most definitely 100% about nerdy "pop culture" empowerment. The nerd kids who got beat up and made fun of are now in their late teens/20s and 30s. The new generation coming up has accepted that video games are the norm. Its just a power fantasy for older folks but aimed at kids.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



It would be boring as hell,stephenson has some cool ideas but he cant write dialogue or a functional story for poo poo,his stories feel like loose conections of stuff hapening with bonus mathematics.

More studios need to take a clue from Arrival,adapt more short stories with cool big ideas and let the screenwriters create interesting characters in it. Or just straight up do an adaptation of stars my destination,because goddamn count of montecristo innnnn spaaaaaaceeeeee.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Snooze Cruise posted:

While the topic is on Ernest Cline, I am going to take this excuse to inform everyone of his spoken word poetry

It's not every day I get to say I'm a better poet than someone.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Personally, I find fanfic on a whole more "digestible" than RP1. Digestible is a bad descriptor, but I mean I am cool with the idea of fanfic. Like I mean a piece of fanfic exists because someone just really enjoyed a piece of media and wanted to write out their own ideas. Cline's stuff exists for a totally different reason though, its to list things, to say these things are great, you are better if you like these things, but we will never say anything deeper about these things. Like yeah fanfic as a whole is probably going to have worst actual writing than RP1, but I would argue Cline's work is more soulless. Like its escapism fiction built from escapism fiction, a copy of a copy, totally lacking any ideals.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


ruddiger posted:

Ready Player One is American Psycho, but instead of disgustingly detailed chapters of 80s fashion and gore, it's pop culture.

ready player one isn't satirical.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
Except Ready Player One is 100% deadly serious and is even more disturbing because of it.


e - f - b

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Groovelord Neato posted:

ready player one isn't satirical.

It's better than satirical. It can't hide and neither can you, you have to catch the horror of it like being shot in the face with rock salt.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I wrote a fanfic where Mega Man meets Superman and helps him fight the Cyborg Superman merged with Metallo.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It's better than satirical. It can't hide and neither can you, you have to catch the horror of it like being shot in the face with rock salt.

his second book is even worse god help me.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

Al Borland Corp. posted:

I wrote a fanfic where Mega Man meets Superman and helps him fight the Cyborg Superman merged with Metallo.

Thinking about it, Tails Gets Trolled is like Ready Player 1 but good.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Reminder that ernest cline's claim to fame was the screenplay for that loving godawful Fanboys movie that was only a thing because of websites like aint it cool news or whatever the gently caress.

Nerds were a mistake

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