evil_bunnY posted:

I don't understand why you'd drive with 00 buck aimed at your face for 2 years instead of getting another wheel. No airbag beats one that'll kill you more often than not.

schmuckfeatures posted:

i'm not seeing any big reason to disagree with this

Proteus Jones posted:

SniperWoreConverse posted:

What changes would it take to make this OSHASEA PATROL-approved?

nm posted:

It is all fairly scary in the abstract, but you are far more likely to be killed in a car accident in a takata car when the airbags work properly (or don't work) because of the nature of the accident than being in an accident when a takata airbag kills you. Only 17 people have been killed by takata airbags world wide, 12 in the US. Total. 36,000 people a year die in auto accidents every year. That is about 100 per day. This is a literal drop in the bucket. There are 60 million airbags subject to recall, I'd say most of those airbags must be working fine.

GotLag posted:

18, now.

Memento posted:

Also, getting them replaced under recall might not actually be doing anything

Mo_Steel posted:

Nah, it'll be in the owner's manual for scheduled maintenance. Have them replaced every 'n' years.

Memento posted:

Also, getting them replaced under recall might not actually be doing anything

Carbon dioxide posted:

Judge once you have watched these vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tA5O8MStCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGVv_3Hqfms

Yawgmoth posted:

I will be forever disappointed they did not name it the Carnacle.

Three-Phase posted:

I think despite those low numbers there's something especially horrifying about a safety device that ends up killing people. It's psychology.

Phanatic posted:

Granted, I can't come up with an example of arc flash PPE killing someone, but it's probably happened.

Phanatic posted:

Probably all safety devices end up killing people, though. Safety is hard, and in almost every example of safety equipment there'll be cases where the safety equipment ended up killing someone. Seat belt? Trapped underwater or in a car on fire, couldn't get out in time. Parachute? Motorcycle helmet? Spine broke because of the extra mass up there on the guy's head. Speed bump? Ambulance got stuck and didn't make it in time. Stop signs on every corner? People get complacent and roll through them. Chicanes are good because they're traffic-calming, but then someone gets distracted and drives right off the road. Then there's risk compensation, where people protected by safety equipment engage in risks they wouldn't otherwise have engaged in. People driving cars with ABS follow closer and brake later, people with seatbelts drive faster, bicycle fatalities are positively associated with bike helmet use.

The point of safety equipment is that's it's on the whole safer, not that it never occasionally kills someone.

Granted, I can't come up with an example of arc flash PPE killing someone, but it's probably happened.

cakesmith handyman posted:

*dies of heat exhaustion wearing it to a fetish ball*

Three-Phase posted:

Hey don't kinkshame.

But seriously it sucks wearing Level 2, and Level 3 or 4 is much worse, except some of those suits come with little built-in cooling fans and pockets for ice packs.

Also things like electrical lineman gloves and the leather gloves that go over them are extremely cumbersome.

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

~~*It came from Reddit*~~



Blowing glass on a floaty in the pool.

Phanatic posted:

Then there's risk compensation, where people protected by safety equipment engage in risks they wouldn't otherwise have engaged in. People driving cars with ABS follow closer and brake later, people with seatbelts drive faster, bicycle fatalities are positively associated with bike helmet use.

Cugel the Clever posted:

This is libertarian horseshit that can't stand up to serious peer review.

Nerses IV posted:

I once had stucco guys that would grind the tips off of broken cables poking out the side of the slab and then stucco over it. It made tracking them down again a whole bunch of fun.



I will not miss documenting all this poo poo.

http://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(16)30366-X/fulltext posted:

Statistics from the American Journal of Surgery, 2016

We performed an analysis of the 2012 National Trauma Data Bank abstracted information of all patients with an intracranial hemorrhage after bicycle-related accidents. 

Of 6,267 patients included in the study, 25.1% were helmeted. Overall 52.4% had severe TBI, and the mortality rate was 2.8%. Helmeted bicycle riders had 51% reduced odds of severe TBI and 44% reduced odds of mortality. 

Cugel the Clever posted:

This is libertarian horseshit that can't stand up to serious peer review.

Pander posted:

Cat 2 clothing

shame on an IGA posted:

lol @ that bike helmet opinion
 

Bozart posted:

FogHelmut posted:

What are the stats on people with bullet proof vests being shot? People with fallout shelters getting nuked?

Say Nothing posted:

Azhais posted:

Is this to make my cat more anxious?

Powershift posted:

Nobody with a fallout shelter has been nuked in over 70 years. They just flat out work.

Statistically, people wearing a bulletproof vest have an increased chance of getting shot.

Sentient Data posted:

Obviously helmets work if you get hit in the head, but I feel like those stats don't tell the full story since anti-helmet stances say that more crashes happen due to riders' overconfidence in their gear's protection and others (like car drivers) being more careful around unhelmeted riders.

I'd also want to see stats on reported collisions per distance and TBI per distance, helmeted vs unhelmeted

shame on an IGA posted:

lol @ that bike helmet opinion
 

Jeoh posted:

Bike helmets are for countries with lovely bike infrastructure, and lycra fetishists

quote:

ISIS Drive, the International Splined Interface Standard, is a non-proprietary splined specification for the interface between a bicycle crankset and the bottom bracket spindle. It was created by King Cycle Group, Truvativ, and Race Face.

Say Nothing posted:

Cugel the Clever posted:

This is libertarian horseshit that can't stand up to serious peer review.

quote:

This assesses the effect of anti-lock brake systems (ABS) on driver injury risk and injury severity through analysis of real crash outcomes reported by Police in Victoria, NSW and Queensland. Information on the presence or absence of ABS on crashed vehicles was provided by participating vehicle manufacturers and matched to the Police reported crash data. A total of 40,739 records were available for analysis. The statistical analysis examined the effectiveness of ABS in terms of both primary and secondary safety. Primary safety effects have been assessed using induced exposure methods employing crashes where the focus vehicle is impacted in the side by another vehicle as the induced exposure measure. Secondary safety effects were evaluated using Poisson and logistic regression models that examined the effectiveness of ABS on the risk and severity of driver injury in the event of a crash whilst controlling for other factors that may affect the safety outcome such as driver age and sex, vehicle model and speed limit at the crash location. ABS braking systems were generally found to have no statistically significant effects on secondary safety outcomes. In terms of primary safety, changes in the distribution of crash type for ABS equipped vehicles were detected as were changes in absolute risk for certain crash types. Vehicles fitted with ABS had lower risk of crashing with other vehicles. However, a higher risk of run off road type crashes for ABS equipped resulted in a net zero change in risk across all crash types. These results are consistent with those estimated in previous overseas studies.

quote:

An increasing number of researchers have hypothesized that regulatory attempts to improve automotive safety through product design would be at least partially offset by driver behavioral changes. This article analyzes two independent data sets to test whether differences in driver behavior exist between cars equipped with air bags and those not so equipped. An analysis of an insurance industry generated data set reveals that relative injury claims increase following adoption of an air bag system. Since there is no indication that the increase diminishes over time, the results appear to be attributable to offsetting behavior as opposed to a sorting of auto buyers. Analyses of 1993 Virginia State Police accident reports indicate that air-bag-equipped cars tend to be driven more aggressively and that aggressiveness appears to offset the effect of the air bag for the driver and increases the risk of death to others.

quote:

The main result was that beginning wearers (group iii) showed signs of continuing behavioral adaptation, in the form of increased speed and increased propensity for close following, as well as several minor effects. The "incentive" group (group i), however, did not change driving behavior in the expected sense, i.e. in the safe direction.

shame on an IGA posted:

lol @ that bike helmet opinion
 

quote:

Millions of parents take it as an article of faith that putting a bicycle helmet on their children, or themselves, will help keep them out of harm's way.

But new data on bicycle accidents raises questions about that. The number of head injuries has increased 10 percent since 1991, even as bicycle helmet use has risen sharply, according to figures compiled by the Consumer Product Safety Commission. But given that ridership has declined over the same period, the rate of head injuries per active cyclist has increased 51 percent just as bicycle helmets have become widespread.
...
Many specialists in risk analysis argue that something else is in play. They believe that the increased use of bike helmets may have had an unintended consequence: riders may feel an inflated sense of security and take more risks.
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One parallel, risk experts said, is anti-lock brakes. When they were introduced in the 1980's, they were supposed to reduce accidents, but government and industry studies in the mid-1990's showed that as drivers realized their brakes were more effective they started driving faster, and some accident rates rose.