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Guinness posted:Honestly though, if I could buy a fully automated washer -> dryer -> folder combo that just meant that I dumped poo poo in the washer and pulled out a folded stack of clean dry clothes I would pay several thousand dollars for it. Easily. If it can handle hand wash and ironing too, you could sell a ton even at 20k a pop to the high end markets.
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baquerd posted:Easily. If it can handle hand wash and ironing too, you could sell a ton even at 20k a pop to the high end markets. I'd do a home invasion and only steal their laundry bot
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Jul 25, 2017 00:10
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baquerd posted:Easily. If it can handle hand wash and ironing too, you could sell a ton even at 20k a pop to the high end markets. COME TO PAPA
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:It's weird how all the claims that people are hanging out on disability instead of getting iobs by choice turn out to be total bullshit No no no, you've missed the key distinction here that actually proves the point. Exiting from the labor force and reporting ones self disabled doesn't automatically come with any benefits. Applications are stable to down but terminations are consistently (except one year) below approved applications, hence the number of people in current status actually has grown. The burden of people on benefits for proven disability has increased. Further increased are those self-reporting as disabled WITHOUT government benefits. In total, the chart you see from FRED is correct. You can also see the mirror image of this with labor force participation rate, which has dwindled dramatically.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:28
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We've looked serially into laundry-bot and for whatever reason the tech just isn't there yet. That (and robo chef?) are going to be in EVERY home of means, though.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:We've looked serially into laundry-bot and for whatever reason the tech just isn't there yet. There are a few problems, most of them vision and planning. We'll get to prototype in 5 years I think (though the economic climate may make "Jetsons laundry gadget" hard to sell at a profit), but getting them to fit in homes will probably remain hard. It could be three years but I don't think Bosch or that tier are working the problem, so some startup will have to get close, get eaten, and get integrated.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:36
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:We've looked serially into laundry-bot and for whatever reason the tech just isn't there yet. That (and robo chef?) are going to be in EVERY home of means, though. Who's we? The tech is all there, but I'd expect a six figure price tag minimum today. Downsized industrial robots, optical recognition of clothes and tags, optical reading of tags, safe fallbacks, high res optical for ironing, clothing stress sensors to avoid stretching or tears, etc. It might just be more economical to dry clean everything and hire minimum wage people to run the clothes through.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:36
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SOTA of deep learning is there, but not any other method, really deep learning folks either don't know robotics and go work on webshit or don't wanna do that thing pool of really competent deep learning folks is not large forex, i don't wanna do it you can't make mee nyaaaa
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Jul 25, 2017 00:36
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$20k would buy a lot of laundry service though? Like a dollar a pound for the service and ten bucks for the task rabbit to run it down to the laundromat and back?
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Jul 25, 2017 00:38
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PCjr sidecar posted:$20k would buy a lot of laundry service though? Like a dollar a pound for the service and ten bucks for the task rabbit to run it down to the laundromat and back? if you can get the machine for $20k, there's a learning curve so in 10 years it'll be like $10k and in 20 it'll be like $5k or $500 or whatever won't be a learning curve for provision of unskilled labor ever, unfortunately
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PCjr sidecar posted:$20k would buy a lot of laundry service though? Like a dollar a pound for the service and ten bucks for the task rabbit to run it down to the laundromat and back? It wouldn't be as convenient or as much of a status symbol. Pick-up/delivery wash and fold would be great though, wish it were in my neighbourhood.
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Subjunctive posted:It wouldn't be as convenient or as much of a status symbol. Hell, just going to a communal apartment laundry vs in-unit laundry is a huge difference in convenience. People hate extra steps in their chores.
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I was literally just thinking about this full-stack laundry problem two days ago. BWM thread please don't doxx my thoughts.
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I listened to a Planet Money podcast talking about a startup in Atlanta that was working on automating sewing. The said the big problem with using automation to work with cloth is that it has a tendency to twist or wrinkle which messes up the machine, unlike a sheet of metal or plastic that you can hold down and it stays where you put it. That's why clothes are expensive, because instead of machines they are mostly made by hand. They solved that by having really fast, high resolution cameras that would count the threads as it went through the machine to keep it on track. They said it sewed a pair of jeans in about 90 seconds. It still couldn't do zippers or buttons but they are working on that. I imagine a clothes folding robot would have similar problems. Anyway, it was an entertaining episode and worth a listen: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/08/03/488611449/episode-715-the-sewing-robot
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sewing is a much happier control problem than having arbitrary clothes and folding em some people did do folding clothes, but by taking like 3 hours
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imagine the supercomputer necessary to fold a fitted sheet. 
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:imagine the supercomputer necessary to fold a fitted sheet. That'll be the last straw that turns the machines against us.
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I'm pretty sure a machine can ball them coarsely in the back of the closet like everyone else and definitely not me
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There have been a few local companies going into liquidation as they don't seem cut out for a competitive market. Now I've found a company going broke that is really ususual.quote:customers owed almost $200,000 from a failed debt collection agency will not see a cent because of the company's "extremely poor" book keeping, a court has heard. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/95043906/high-court-allows-liquidator-to-recover-fees-from-failed-debt-collectors-trust-account How a debt collection agency manages to go broke I have no idea.
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curufinor posted:sewing is a much happier control problem than having arbitrary clothes and folding em I agree it's harder to fold, but if the folding robot screws up you get a slightly misfolded shirt. If the sewing robot screws up it sews to sleeves together. The folder has a lot more room for error.
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Jul 25, 2017 01:48
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quote:My parents are hard working people but they sure don't have the money that a fancy government job does. I initially pulled out this quote as proof that the racist dad credit card post was fake, but then I realized this could really go either way in our post-parody world.
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Jul 25, 2017 02:50
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Devian666 posted:There have been a few local companies going into liquidation as they don't seem cut out for a competitive market. Now I've found a company going broke that is really ususual. Too many owners pulling money they "deserve" regardless of revenues.
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The Rural Towns article reminds me of a time when I was protesting and some person in some mediocre sedan rolled up next to me specifically just to tell me to get a job. It was a Saturday. I told her I had a job and it was better than her job. She looked at me dumbfounded and repeated "get a job." In that WP story, the Blue Ford Focus lady, an obvious master of capitalism, yelling at dumb unsympathetic idiot. Truly worth everyone's energy. People who get mad at signs are between 50% - 200% worse than actual sign holders. I can't imagine making a stupid social media post about a panhandler. I guess people just really want attention, outrage, and self-satisfaction over garbage and Jaguar guy hit the lottery. Blinkman987 fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Devian666 posted:How a debt collection agency manages to go broke I have no idea. My understanding is that they buy debt, usually for some low amount, then try to collect. Sometimes the debt can be collected and sometimes it can't. If the people running the business were idiots which it sounds like they were, then they overpaid for debt that people weren't paying on. Or maybe they were schmucks and didn't call debtors/their family/their friends at work/at home/at church/etc. like all the successful debt collection companies.
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Blinkman987 posted:some person in some mediocre sedan rolled up next to me specifically just to tell me to get a job. It was a Saturday. I told her I had a job and it was better than her job. She looked at me dumbfounded and repeated "get a job." This is totally how you win dude. Do you have a zine I can subscribe to?
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Motronic posted:This is totally how you win dude. Do you have a zine I can subscribe to? Not right now. I was outsourcing the production of them and a bunch of freeloaders quit on me so they could go on disability.
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the catch is that sign holders are already really terrible people so it doesn't really matter if they get run over or whatever by even worse people
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Blinkman987 posted:The Rural Towns article reminds me of a time when I was protesting and some person in some mediocre sedan rolled up next to me specifically just to tell me to get a job. It was a Saturday. I told her I had a job and it was better than her job. She looked at me dumbfounded and repeated "get a job." Get a job then dammit!!!
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A Liberal Can't Have A Real Job Because She Doesn't Believe In The Free Market.
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Devian666 posted:How a debt collection agency manages to go broke I have no idea. Can't squeeze blood from a stone, especially a stone that ignores the climbing debt and/or is dependent on credit, and is of the opinion that they'll just declare bankruptcy* when they get to a certain level, and repeat the cycle. * = Based on a true story.
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Blinkman987 posted:I initially pulled out this quote as proof that the racist dad credit card post was fake, but then I realized this could really go either way in our post-parody world. quote:My mom showed me the receipts (they were going to repay her before all this happened) and they are all, 100%, for things like horse feed (we have horses), diapers and food for my brothers kids, and repairs to my dad's truck (which is 12 years old). If they were really thieves (which doesnt make sense but anyway) they would have gone out to eat, bought a new house, gotten Jewlery and furs. As it is neither of my parents had gotten new cloths in about five years, maybe more.
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horse truck no wedding, no timeshare dunno how that progression works i think minimal elements would be horse truck wedding?
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Subjunctive posted:There are a few problems, most of them vision and planning. We'll get to prototype in 5 years I think (though the economic climate may make "Jetsons laundry gadget" hard to sell at a profit), but getting them to fit in homes will probably remain hard. It could be three years but I don't think Bosch or that tier are working the problem, so some startup will have to get close, get eaten, and get integrated. folding is easy. getting a lump of clothes from the dryer into a state where they are foldable is really hard
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you should really see someone about that schizophrenia, buddy
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Subjunctive posted:It wouldn't be as convenient or as much of a status symbol. Pick-up/delivery wash and fold would be great though, wish it were in my neighbourhood. would it be unethical for you to listen to a pitch for my pick up/delivery laundry as a service startup that targets the greater toronto area?
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the talent deficit posted:would it be unethical for you to listen to a pitch for my pick up/delivery laundry as a service startup that targets the greater toronto area? you should sell coins like wash.io did and also almost get killed by visa as a money launderer because they sold currency lol money laundering
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Wasn't it because people were buying thousands of dollars on rewards cards, paying the card off,
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For a second I thought I saw they had budgeted diapers for horses
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Wasn't it because people were buying thousands of dollars on rewards cards, paying the card off, You used to be able to order currency with credit cards from the federal reserve to do this as well. They stopped that a long time ago though.
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Rise in personal loans dangerous, Bank of England official saysquote:Outstanding car loans, credit card balance transfers and personal loans have increased by 10% over the past year, the Bank's financial stability director Alex Brazier said. quote:They were told to set aside £11.4bn in the next 18 months in case future economic shocks meant some borrowers could not keep up their repayments.
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