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Kit Walker posted:Ehhhh, you must've missed that brief period where a lot of Bernie supporters started saying Warren wasn't a progressive because she supported Clinton. I'm sure the sentiment still exists in some circles Did they say the same thing when Bernie supported Clinton?
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Kit Walker posted:Ehhhh, you must've missed that brief period where a lot of Bernie supporters started saying Warren wasn't a progressive because she supported Clinton. I'm sure the sentiment still exists in some circles Well, a lot of folks genuinely expected her to back Sanders because they're so similar on so many issues and Clinton is way to the right of both of them. A cynic can definitely read Warren's actions last year as selling out. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but it's a fair critique. If you were just looking at her stated policy positions, it was reasonable to assume she'd back Bernie and disappointing to a lot of people when she didn't.
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Avirosb posted:Did they say the same thing when Bernie supported Clinton? I think after the primaries the more vocal supporters just kinda lost it and Bernie lost any control over them.
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Duckbag posted:Well, a lot of folks genuinely expected her to back Sanders because they're so similar on so many issues and Clinton is way to the right of both of them. A cynic can definitely read Warren's actions last year as selling out. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but it's a fair critique. If you were just looking at her stated policy positions, it was reasonable to assume she'd back Bernie and disappointing to a lot of people when she didn't. Didn't she only turn to support Clinton after she already secured the nomination?
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Kit Walker posted:Didn't she only turn to support Clinton after she already secured the nomination? Yeah, but a lot of Sanders people resented her for refusing to pick a side in the primary. She definitely took the cautious "wait and see" approach and I can't really fault her for it, but Sanders was struggling the whole race to get high profile endorsements and she was one of the people who could have been reasonably expected to give him one. If she'd come out during the "run, Liz, run!" period and said "I support Sanders" it would have been a huge boost to his campaign profile at a time when the press was completely ignoring him and could have changed everything. That's all just sour grapes under the burnt bridge at this point though.
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Good old prison rape humor! Never change, you precious gem! 
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Kit Walker posted:Didn't she only turn to support Clinton after she already secured the nomination? Some people got mad because a Warren endorsement could have at least flipped Massachusetts, which would have altered the entire momentum of the race, but I think it's generally understood that Warren had a lot to lose from picking a losing side and the grudges have not really persisted to this point in non-strawman form Abyssal Squid posted:"Why are they being so mean to Bernie supporters? Here's how he could have won!" this but unironically
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Abyssal Squid posted:"Why are they being so mean to Bernie supporters? Here's how he could have won!" Well, there's a lot of ways he could have won. Isn't what happened and I accept that. Doesn't mean we can't try to actually learn from the past though. Trump is president now because he managed to suck all the oxygen out of the room with his fat mouth and broken brain so that the media spent more time talking about him than all the other candidates combined. A competitive Democratic primary likely would have changed that, but we didn't get one and it meant that the general election became a race between a media phenomenon and a fait accompli. If Sanders had won or if Clinton had won after a hard fought primary, there would have been a narrative of struggle and triumph. Instead, we got two years of the press treating her as a foregone conclusion instead and that gave them license to ignore her in favor of the new Cheeto on the block. The sense of inevitability about Clinton that her campaign deliberately cultivated wound up destroying her on election day. The democratic base became complacent (or resentful) about it being "her turn" and didn't turn in the numbers they had for Obama's much more transformational campaigning. At the same time, a bunch of undecided types who probably should have known better decided that voting Trump was a harmless way to stick it to "the establishment" because everyone "knew" he was going to lose. I think it's 100% true that Bernie would have won, but I also think Clinton would have won if only she hadn't had the party leadership and mass media effectively declare her the nominee before the primary even started. If people had treated Sanders like a real challenger from the start, then her winning in June would have actually felt like a victory and the whole race would have gone differently. So, when I see this ridiculous strip talking about "front-runners" like that's a real thing and making fun of people who dare to support an opposing candidate, it pisses me off because it means liberals are determined to learn nothing from last year's debacle. The fact that it's still trotting out the demeaning slur that all die hard Sanders supporters are all white male secret sexists who hate strong women is just the bit of corn in the turd sundae.
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Zemyla posted:No, they didn't. Remember, Obama was not only the president when bin Laden was killed, but he played a relatively direct role in it. Also, it distracted from the birth certificate dogwhistling Trump was attempting. So a lot of racists were all like, "Well, actually, here's why killing bin Laden was a bad thing (which should have happened when a Republican president could take credit)".
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Ularg posted:Petition for Bors to never draw anything but skeletons ever again. I do appreciate me some skeletal diversity 
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Avirosb posted:I do appreciate me some skeletal diversity But all the skeletons are white!
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I nominate this for the Gorell Award for Hackcellence in Laziness.
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Duckbag posted:But all the skeletons are white! 
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I put forth my nomination for Worst Label of the Year. (a few – a few – Bernie supporters on the tweets jumping to slam Kamala Harris for reasons is annoying; worthy of this cartoon's argument?, nah.)
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loquacius posted:The poll isn't even old yet If he wanted to make a better point, he'd, I 'unno, show Amanda Marcotte clutching a poll from 2015 showing HRC as very popular.
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D.N. Nation posted:(a few – a few – Bernie supporters on the tweets jumping to slam Kamala Harris for reasons is annoying; worthy of this cartoon's argument?, nah.) I didn't even know that was a thing that happened. Idk, Harris is fine. I voted for her and she hasn't made me regret it yet. I have no idea if she's planning to run for president one day. She probably doesn't either. I sort of thought she was gunning for the governor's mansion tbh.
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Duckbag posted:I didn't even know that was a thing that happened. Idk, Harris is fine. I voted for her and she hasn't made me regret it yet. I have no idea if she's planning to run for president one day. She probably doesn't either. I sort of thought she was gunning for the governor's mansion tbh. She's doing some donor gladhanding and has been visible in Congress (though on that last point, she should be doing that anyway, no?), which has led to speculation. Some of the usual nincompoops are getting ahead of the curve by calling her a sellout and dissecting all of her tweets as evidence of neoliberal perfidy, but ultimately who fuckin' cares, I imagine the great bulk of Bernie die-hards have your "Harris is fine" opinion.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sick of Bay Area Democrats treating the state party like their clubhouse and there was some quasi scandal about her having high travel expenses or something, but in general she seems like a reliable liberal democrat. Probably not our socialist savior though, if that's all people care about.
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Playstation 4 posted:They basically had to lead with Warren to get any traction, seeing they follow it up with a wannabe Republican Lite and two literal Dynasty Candidates declared as front runners before the primaries start again. Hmm yes but you see they're all women so the strawman is a misogynist too! Checkmate.
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