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It's interesting how activating the Fire Crystal is supposed to make Mt. Karka less volcanic.
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Regalingualius posted:Pre- or post-breakdown? Either or. Patter Song posted:It's interesting how activating the Fire Crystal is supposed to make Mt. Karka less volcanic. Should lava/magma even count as fire anyway? Wouldn't that be Earth Crystal jurisdiction?
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Jul 18, 2017 22:39
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Turns out the Fire Crystal is less literal fire and more metaphorical fires of war activating the crystal immediately brings peace between the two sides
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Jul 18, 2017 23:44
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Blind Duke posted:Turns out the Fire Crystal is less literal fire and more metaphorical fires of war Also, I assume that "activating" or "awakening" the crystal or whatever means bringing it under control, not necessarily turning the power knob up to 11.
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Jul 18, 2017 23:58
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Hmmmm. I'm reminded of something that needs to be shown off. I just don't remember how soon it is. Dropping you a PM, Greyarc - just to make sure you hit it up.
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Jul 19, 2017 18:30
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I know a certain event following an optional sidequest boss battle has two outcomes depending on the order you do the sidequests in (like how it was in Florem). So I'll assume you'll be showing us all the variants?
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Blademaster_Aio posted:So I'll assume you'll be showing us all the variants? Yep, plan is still to do all variations. I've got a pretty thorough list: https://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/729328-bravely-default/faqs/68431 The Event Viewer section there appears to be the most complete around, so I'm using that as a base. I've found a few other scenes through hints elsewhere and experimenting in-game. If there's a scene or dialogue you (general you) have found not included on that list, feel free to PM me about it. I want to find 'em all. Credit will be given to those who find a thing not already found. Greyarc fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 23:03
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Sent you a note on the topic.
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Jul 21, 2017 23:07
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quote: It's getting hot in here. So hot. So take off all your clothes. I am getting so hot. I wanna take my clothes off. Unacceptable!
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Jul 22, 2017 11:40
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Why is Eisen designed the way it is Why is there a flight of stairs that go into lava and nothing else Why are there giant knight statues(?) at the entrance
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Jul 22, 2017 12:11
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Pureauthor posted:Why is Eisen designed the way it is I think the staircase was initially supposed to lead to the fire temple but then the fire vestal died so Volcano happened.
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Jul 22, 2017 13:01
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Naturally, the Shieldbearers town is surrounded by pieces of oversized armor that shops are built into except the massive overbearing mansion in the center, whoever lives in there must be really into themselves
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Blind Duke posted:Naturally, the Shieldbearers town is surrounded by pieces of oversized armor that shops are built into It's pretty obvious who lives in that one huge mansion on your screen. It even has a yellow mark on the map! It's not like we can go in any other house, for that matter. I'm sure there are other houses somewhere. We can't see them.
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Entry 48: The Good Wife Time to go visit Commander Goodman's residence, which takes up roughly half the town. Considering the Goodman's positions both physically and politically, they are likely an old money family with deep ties to the Shieldbearer power structure, giving them more more investment than most in this war. Arguably in their favor, they support the concept of noblesse oblige, with Mr. Goodman taking a leadership position in the war and personally overseeing the front lines.   Allow me to introduce you. This is the commander's wife, Eleanor. Such beauty! Commander Goodman is a very lucky man. Very lucky indeed. Ah ha ha, you are kind to flatter me so. Thank you. It is no mere flattery. I speak from the heart...  My husband has told me to receive you and your companions as guests of state, vestal. Please, make yourself at home. Unfortunately, in a time of war the hospitality I can provide is limited... Oh, there's no need to go to any trouble for us. I'll prepare some dinner now. It should be ready in a little while. She bows and walks to a back room.   ...... The commander is so busy with the war effort, he rarely has time to come home to his lovely wife. I sure hope this war is over soon... What if you surrendered? That would put an end to the fighting, at least. Surrender is not an option! Please consider your words before you speak, vestal! Even if we did surrender, and this war ended with the Swordbearers victorious... They would only seek to invade other realms to gain more territory. In other words, others would face the terrors of war next. That is why we must fight. You are right...Considering Agnès and company have already pulverized many Eternian troops in their quest for justice, her whole 'why not give up' routine is pretty hypocritical. She may be feeling depressed due to Olivia's death, but you'd think she's seen enough by now to realize surrender isn't simple. After an awkward silence, Eleanor returns.  Good thing Eleanor didn't hear Agnès's suggestion. Might've soured the dinner. Literally.  Before they head off to eat, Ringabel sees something through the front window...  ...and runs outside.  Ringabel! Where are you off to? No doubt he spotted another pretty girl. He'll be back before too long.*sitcom laugh track* With that, the scene changes to a now familiar location, far from the party.  Time for our merry band of cartoonishly evil overseers. How are they getting along today?   Are you well enough to be here, Victoria? I am stronger than I appear. Much stronger than you, in fact. Is that not right, Victor? Getting along status: Negative. See? You have no place being concerned for my well-being, Alternis. Hmph. Moving on, we have word from the Black Blades regarding the whereabouts of the wind vestal, Lord Marshal. The wind vestal has traveled to Eisenberg. She is likely seeking out the Fire Crystal. So, she aims to awaken all the crystals. We should have had the Fire Crystal in our possession already. However, the Black Blades slaughtered the fire vestal, and since then appear to have done nothing but twiddle their thumbs. If we captured the Temple of Fire without first crushing the Shieldbearers, the battle would shift to the temple. The crystal could be destroyed in the process. That is no doubt what Kamiizumi aims to avoid. Our goal is to wield ultimate control over the crystals. Therefore, the Shieldbearers must first be purged. I hear that you and the swordmaster are old friends, Your Lordship... This must be why you place such faith in him. I trust him more than any other man. And the Black Blades that he commands are the elite of the elite. The vestal will never defeat them. They will see their mission through to the end. Are you sure you do not overestimate them? I could raze that whole realm to the ground in three days. Do not get carried away, Victoria. You have already faced defeat at the hands of the wind vestal once. I merely speak fact. Unlike you, the swordmaster can do more than simply destroy. Do you hear that, Victor? What a loathsome man! Just so... Please refrain from using such language against Victoria, Alternis. What!? If you do not, you risk coming to harm. Aha, see...? !? Are you alright, Alternis? I am afraid it seems my warning came a bit too late.Victor is making zero attempt at sincerity, there.  But know this: my spells can scatter your body to the four winds at a moment's notice.Alternis draws his weapon.  Care to see which is faster? Your magic, or the time it takes me to skewer you on my sword! Alternis! Surely you would not turn your blade on Victoria!? For the first time in the game, Victor sounds genuinely angry. It's enough to give the others pause. Grr! This is the Council of Six. We meet for earnest deliberation. I will not tolerate further bickering!The Grand Marshal doesn't understand why those ruling alongside him can't just get along. It's almost like they're psychopaths incapable of wise leadership! Good thing the agents he assigned overseas don't have that problem, so far as he's heard!   We will leave the matter of the wind vestal to Commander Kamiizumi. If anyone objects, speak now!*dead pause* Nobody? Then it is settled. We are done for today. Victor and Victoria exit.  Odd that Victoria wasn't reprimanded.   Alternis staggers away. Meanwhile, across the world in Hartschild...  Tiz's midnight wanderings are interrupted by an approaching Ringabel.  Where were you off to at this hour, Ringabel? I saw the most exquisite girl and followed her out of town. She was a fine specimen indeed.  Yes, I was on the receiving end of a rather sharp whack... It seems my advances were unwanted. First hitting on the party's host/wife of the Shieldbearer's leader, now stalking and physically forcing himself on an unwilling "specimen". This has not been Ringabel's finest hour. The fellows head back to Goodman's residence to catch a bit of sleep. The next day:   This is hardly the time to go wandering off, you know. Well, what's our next move? We're at a loose end until we find a way into the Temple of Fire. I'll try to find my own way in. Right. I think it's best if we split up to cover more ground. Time is of the essence, after all. We Shieldbearers haven't just been loafing around here. We've already tried everything we can think of. None of our attempts were successful. If we had an airship, we could sail in no problem, of course... Perhaps we could go and awaken the Earth Crystal first...? I don't think we'd make it into Eternia, where the Earth Crystal lies. It's surrounded by craggy peaks, so there's no way in on foot. When I was sent to Caldisla, I boarded a high-powered airship owned by the duchy... Even if we repaired the Eschalot, I don't think it could make the trip. Are you telling the whole truth, Edea? You're not hiding anything from us again...?  ......  You mean that? We could certainly use the help. But...are you sure? No, we are not. So you want to go to war now, Tiz? Also, ensure the slaughtering is most efficient  It sounds like more meddling in the business off strangers to me... And why not? We have no other way forward. And yet before us stand a multitude who need our help. We cannot turn a blind eye to them. Edea, as usual, is all aboard the murder train. Really? It would mean going up against your master, leader of the Black Blade mercenaries. It is clear from what I have heard that the Shieldbearers are the white, and the Swordbearers are the black in this case. It is just how I see things. Black and white, good and evil.This sounds healthy, heroic, and not at all like a rationalizing crutch for someone sheltered for most of their life.  Anyway, we're gonna beat up bad guys and get more jobs to toy around with! I'm with you, too, Tiz. These damsels in distress must be rescued from the ravages of war. Tiz... I hope you'll join us, too, Agnès. I promise we won't get too mixed up in this conflict. We're more likely to find a lead by traveling around than simply waiting here, anyway. ...... Great. Let's go talk to the commander, then.As the group makes their way out of town, they have some chats.   Absolutely! The sausage was tender and juicy. The potatoes au gratin were like a gooey dream! It was all delicious. Heh, sounds like she rolled out all the classics. They're our wartime staples. You eat them a lot? As you can see, this isn't the most fertile patch of land. Potatoes are all that'll grow. And meat shortages mean we're always padding out the sausage with something. All the more impressive, then, that such a feast came from meager supplies. No doubt it was her love for me that gave it such flavor! Yeah, I'll bet... I'm sure poor Eleanor's got plenty of love stocked up by now, with her husband away. But the commander's stuck out on the front lines. He barely gets home, these days. I just feel awful for her, stuck in that big house all alone... Well, I hope we can pitch in to help her out somehow.  Agnès is getting more guilt-tripped by the minute. Also, Datz should know Ringabel well enough by now to not say something like 'stocked up love' in his presence.   It's quite the surpriiise! Fine, fine, tell me about this woman you met. I'll put up with you for a while. So! Last night I chanced across a most unusual lady... She was crawling along the walls and ceilings! What!? What kind of girl was this!? I couldn't say. An acrobat or somesuch, I expect? An acrobat...? Hmm, I suppose she could have been practicing. Ah, or perhaps she was on patrol! Noble girl, keeping her home safe.  You make her sound like a guard dog...gecko...thing. And wait, why were you in her house!? Ah! Owww... Just remembering the feel of her elbow strike has me all aflutter! Oof. I can't keep up...This mystery woman sounds normal and not at all terrifying. Next: Join the Army, Travel the World! -- Event Viewer Main Scenario: Eleanor Goodman Discord in the Council of Six Rebuffed Again We Cannot Turn a Blind Eye Party Chat: Eleanor's Home Cooking Keeping Up With Ringabel D's Journal: Ringabel posted:Datz led us to Hartschild, town of the Shieldbearers. After meeting the wife of Commander Goodman, I caught a glimpse of a slender woman of great beauty! I asked her name, but perhaps too shy, she did not answer. She fled, and I pursued her. In a corner of town she caught me off guard with a sharp whack, and gave me the slip. Talk about playing hard to get! D's Journal: Eleanor Goodman posted:
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From what I recall. Victoria is only on that council and allowed to do what ever she wants because of Victor. And Eternia does not want to lose Victor.
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Jul 25, 2017 06:37
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Victoria is a psycho and I think this is the scene that made me dislike her immensely. Probably because Alternis was one of my favorite characters over the course of the game. Though Victor is pretty great, too. I can't help but wonder why Kamiizumi isn't on the Council of Six, though. He seems like he'd be a better fit than the Victors. Edit: "We even tried cooling the lava." Can we hear more about that? I'm curious to know the process behind that. 
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Jul 25, 2017 06:50
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Yeah, Victoria is my least favorite member of the Council of Six. Is this the first time they mention that the Earth Crystal is in Eternia proper?
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Jul 25, 2017 06:59
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Yeah, in retrospect, it's weird that Kami isn't on the Council of
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Jul 25, 2017 08:26
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Edit: "We even tried cooling the lava." I pictured it as them just getting, like, hundreds of buckets of water from the ocean and pouring it on the lava.
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Jul 25, 2017 08:45
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Patter Song posted:Is this the first time they mention that the Earth Crystal is in Eternia proper? Pretty sure it's come up in a conversation beforehand. Shortly after the water crystal?
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Jul 25, 2017 08:48
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:
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Jul 25, 2017 09:11
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Black mages can just tell the laws of thermodynamics to sit down and shut up, though. And considering there are shops that sell the stuff in places like Ancheim and Florem, either there's more than one Black Mage/Red Mage asterisk, or people can just master the job normally. I think the asterisks are just supposed to be a shortcut to instant/really quick mastery. Which might actually explain why so many of the asterisk-bearers are so messed up; they got all of the power without any of the discipline that came along with learning it the "hard" way.
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Patter Song posted:Is this the first time they mention that the Earth Crystal is in Eternia proper?
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Quantum Toast posted:I don't remember it being mentioned before this, but since there are five continents and Caldis didn't have a crystal, it's not hard to guess. There is that weird frozen caldera in the north and the Yulyana woods being considered a different land and the Wind and Water crystals sharing the same continent
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Jul 25, 2017 14:01
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I guess I'll ask the obvious question: Ringabell, are you our black knight? cause that wound having is a BIT conspicuous when paired with your other disappearance.
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RedMagus posted:I guess I'll ask the obvious question: Ringabell, are you our black knight? cause that wound having is a BIT conspicuous when paired with your other disappearance. The game was incredibly blatant hinting at that. Almost too blatant.
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Maybe it's one of those "mirror universe" bits, where Ringabell separated into his Light side and Dark side...ok, his womanizer side and his "Duty" side? Final Fantasy has done that "dual personality" bit before right?
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Jul 25, 2017 20:40
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The only instance of multiple personalities I can think of in Final Fantasy is Cloud in VII.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:The only instance of multiple personalities I can think of in Final Fantasy is Cloud in VII. If Final Fantasy IV: The After Years counts, there's the two Kains. Also, pretty much everyone in Final Fantasy IV was brainwashed at some point or another.
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It's weird how many blatant hints the game is throwing that Ringabel is Alternis, but there's a few things that still seem like he isn't. Alternis and Edea should know each other, so unless he's been stuck in that armor since birth she ought to recognize him. Also, they're on a totally different continent than Eternia. How would Ringabel have gotten to Eternia and back in a matter of hours without anyone noticing the kind of airship they've said they would need? If they can just teleport people around or something then you would think catching the vestal would be much easier. I mean, I know games occasionally ignore distance for narrative convenience but the party was just discussing how hard it would be to get to Eternia.
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Jul 25, 2017 21:20
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Yakumo posted:I mean, I know games occasionally ignore distance for narrative convenience but the party was just discussing how hard it would be to get to Eternia. I smell Time Travel Shenanigans. Smells like week old jelly babies from the future.
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But Greyarc already killed the Time Mage.
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I must say I have my doubts about the Eternian system of government.
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Can I just say after what the original asterisks were up to in Florem it feels really weird to have our male and female leads being a red mage and a summoner? Then again our clothing wardrobe is full of assholes, so I suppose it's kind of inevitable.
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Pureauthor posted:I must say I have my doubts about the Eternian system of government. They even have an even number of people, both in theory (6) and in practice (4). OP's suggestion of adding Kamiizumi to the Council makes sense just to prevent ties.
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Glazius posted:Can I just say after what the original asterisks were up to in Florem it feels really weird to have our male and female leads being a red mage and a summoner? Bear in mind that we still haven't gotten the assholiest asterisks, either.
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Ringabel was flirting with a gecko lady. Or a lady clinging to the wall. Also, I can't wait for the next sidequest. We need more jobs! Also, Master Kamiizumi actually seems reasonable. What a super shock compared to the rest of them.
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Patter Song posted:I like the touch of having the Council of Hobgoblin2099 posted:But Greyarc already killed the Time Mage. Glazius posted:Can I just say after what the original asterisks were up to in Florem it feels really weird to have our male and female leads being a red mage and a summoner? Look at it this way: we're fighting fire with fire and using the asterisks we've gained to fight the evil of the remaining asterisk-bearers. Blademaster_Aio posted:Ringabel was flirting with a gecko lady. Or a lady clinging to the wall.
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Blademaster_Aio posted:Ringabel was flirting with a gecko lady. Or a lady clinging to the wall. Please don't kinkshame.
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