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Node posted:I've been afraid to ask this, but is the AI in this game... bad? They're bad at trying to win outright, yes. Amplitude was more concerned with trying to make the factions behave certain ways, instead of trying to make the AI compete with the player(s); the higher difficulties just increase the AI's FIDSI output, not their strategy.
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Generic Octopus posted:They're bad at trying to win outright, yes. Amplitude was more concerned with trying to make the factions behave certain ways, instead of trying to make the AI compete with the player(s); the higher difficulties just increase the AI's FIDSI output, not their strategy. Well. Do I need to play on one of the three hardest difficulties then? Or is it still stupid? I'm used to Civ 4 and the AI, while simple, at least could pose a challenge. Right now I've played my third game, one of them I got caught in never ending dust healing cycle of the broken lords, and the other two I won effortlessly.
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"Hey, a Vodyani hero, I hear they're pretty strong, wonder why-"  e: 
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Consider me humbled. I'm on Serious difficulty as the Drakken. I border the Cultists who now have two guardians with a military score of 86k compared to my 12k. The only thing that has saved me is forced truces, and bribing the vaulters to go to war with them. Of course, they aren't actually attacking each other. How on earth can I save myself? And how do peace treaties work exactly? I can broker a peace treaty, but the AI will immediately go back into cold war whenever the timer allows them to. I can't seem to build "trust," if such a thing exists in the game.
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Jul 19, 2017 04:34
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Peace treaties are basically cease fires. If the AI is immediately breaking them once it can it usually means the AI has decided you're weak and easy to beat. The AI generally respects strength more than anything. Except the drakken who have a vested interest in being everyone's friend.
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Jul 19, 2017 04:44
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Node posted:Consider me humbled. I'm on Serious difficulty as the Drakken. I border the Cultists who now have two guardians with a military score of 86k compared to my 12k. The only thing that has saved me is forced truces, and bribing the vaulters to go to war with them. Of course, they aren't actually attacking each other. How on earth can I save myself? Exactly how to salvage the situation, or indeed whether it is salvageable in the first place, will depend on your heroes, economy and level of military technology, but you can help yourself with shenanigans. The AI greatly overestimates the strength of its armies, so it's all but guaranteed to attack your cities without breaking down all the fortifications. If you put most of your forces in whatever city it hits first and win that battle, the damage that you do and the experience that you gain should let you win the rest. Alternatively, you can try outmaneuvering it. Attacking one of the guardians while the other one is out of reinforcement range is obviously great. If they stick together, that means that either they're not in your territory and so you can probably hold off their lesser units even with a huge military score disadvantage, or they are in your territory and you can try running past them for a decapitation strike. The Cultist home region gets a considerable fortification bonus, but elite armies with strategic resource weapons, the right talismans, the right hero skills/talismans and reinforcements are so much stronger than than troops without those edges that you might be able pull it off anyway. You can also invest in influence to benefit from being Drakken. The game has changed since the last time I looked into how much force truce costs, but it might still be possible to produce enough to keep forcing truces whenever the Cultists get close to grabbing one of your cities. Eventually, you'll hit a peaceful victory condition or be strong enough to face them. Even if you can't do that, you're certain to be late enough in the game to grab the +50% health empire plan. It's far from cheap, but if the Cultists don't have it themselves, it's a huge edge.
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Mokinokaro posted:The AI generally respects strength more than anything. Except the drakken who have a vested interest in being everyone's friend. Which is kinda silly since their faction quest has a step where you conquer or destroy a neighboring city.
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Jul 19, 2017 06:06
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gently caress simultaneous movement. I know that it makes MP easier but ugh. love to hit end turn and then click furiously like I've taken up starcraft and/or meth
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The cultists have Skoros and is blocking the path to their city. Every time I attack him he retreats, and the next turn he is at full health. I can't get past him. I thought there was a cooldown on his heal ability. e: Well, it doesn't matter. On the other side of the continent Roving Clans has 7000 score compared to the next highest which was 2000, and they were almost at a scientific and a dust victory. Do runaway AIs happen often in this game? Node fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Jul 19, 2017 06:36
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Pedestrian Xing posted:"Hey, a Vodyani hero, I hear they're pretty strong, wonder why-" Praise the Virtuals!
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Jul 19, 2017 08:00
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How do I siege this city? I can't get on top of the minor faction building so I have no way to attack it or lay siege on it. Did the AI just troll me? Node fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Jul 26, 2017 00:32
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Node posted:How do I siege this city? That's loving incredible. I think you're hosed if you need to take that city. e: guess you'd better infiltrate it and start planning a coup or something 
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Jul 26, 2017 00:55
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Simultaneously the worst possible city yet somehow invincible.
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Jul 26, 2017 00:57
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There goes an Elimination victory 
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Jul 26, 2017 01:11
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Node posted:There goes an Elimination victory That city has to have poo poo industry output, meaning it'll be lousy at running Roundups. See if you can hire a Forgotten hero to infiltrate it and uhh... is there a coup operation? I forget. If not, just halve its population a lot and hope you can eventually somehow reduce it to 0 I guess
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Jul 26, 2017 01:15
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Wait, no, there's a relatively foolproof method. Beat the poo poo out of that enemy until they only have that city and one other (which is better than that one), then demand Inga in exchange for a truce. They'll likely accept.
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Angry Diplomat posted:Wait, no, there's a relatively foolproof method. Beat the poo poo out of that enemy until they only have that city and one other (which is better than that one), then demand Inga in exchange for a truce. They'll likely accept. They haven't expanded beyond that city which is the hilarious part. I think they just want to sit there and tell me to go gently caress myself.
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Node posted:They haven't expanded beyond that city which is the hilarious part. I think they just want to sit there and tell me to go gently caress myself. 
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Angry Diplomat posted:Declare a truce, trade them the tech that lets them build a seaport, and attack them as soon as they use it to expand beyond lovely Island? He just declared war on me. The AI is making fun of me at this point. I just checked the map, he is landlocked. The only thing I could do is give him a city and then declare war. This game's AI is silly.
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Node posted:How do I siege this city? Yup. It's rare, but I have seen screenshots of literally impregnable cities in the past. A small island in the ocean that you completely cover with burroughs works too, since you can't amphibiously siege cities. Are you sure that's their only city? It doesn't have the capitol symbol (little crown).
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Jul 26, 2017 07:18
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So some comics have been released. I think they're okay, but man, that Horatio one... 
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Jul 27, 2017 17:42
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Geez. Horatio' a dick. But we knew that already.
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Speedball posted:Geez. Horatio' a dick. But we knew that already. Aw I liked her ,oh well beauty has it's price.
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Is there a half decent guide anywhere on good combat builds and what works best against each faction? I can't really get my head around ship composition and I'm not learning anything useful from the battles that I'm having.
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Restrained Crown Posse posted:Is there a half decent guide anywhere on good combat builds and what works best against each faction? I can't really get my head around ship composition and I'm not learning anything useful from the battles that I'm having. The combat system is basically just if/then, for example, If they use lasers, then use shields, and if they have shields, then use projectiles, and vice versa
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 I finally figured out how to play Forgotten you guys
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So a couple months in, does anyone have any opinion they want to share on Endless Space 2? Has it held your interest?
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Helion posted:So a couple months in, does anyone have any opinion they want to share on Endless Space 2? Has it held your interest? It's still a bit buggy, has pretty significant performance issues, absolutely no sense of balance, and the AI is still pretty bad. The combat system is what I would call 'just there' and the advanced combat viewer is clunky and bad. Haven't seen a meaningful patch in a while now, though they are doing some balance testing stuff with an Official mod on the workshop I guess. There's some good stuff in there but overall it still feels very beta to me, and I've shelved it for the time being to wait for improvements. I definitely don't like it anywhere near as much as EL, though that isn't entirely a fair comparison I know.
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Yeah, this is what I feared I'd hear  But still, thanks for taking the time to give your opinion! I will hold off buying for now.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:There's some good stuff in there but overall it still feels very beta to me, and I've shelved it for the time being to wait for improvements. I definitely don't like it anywhere near as much as EL, though that isn't entirely a fair comparison I know. Nah, I feel that way too, even comparing it to EL at release.
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ES2 update: https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forums/65-general/threads/27574-1-0-36-release-notes-preview?page=1 Notably, fixed ai getting mad about exploration ships
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I hope some save fixes got done in this patch - I bought this game for a friend and she simply can't save the game full stop. No autosaves, no manual saves, nothing.
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Pedestrian Xing posted:ES2 update: https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forums/65-general/threads/27574-1-0-36-release-notes-preview?page=1 Does this mean my exploration ships need more guns?
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They nerfed the ridiculously overpowered Vodyani hero skill by 50%. It's still probably too powerful. Going to play another Vodyani game to see how it goes.
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I've attempted four games, and each time started next door to Cravers and down the road from the Vodyanoi. They are NOT GOOD NEIGHBOURS for a completely new player to have, apparently. Anyway, it's been a lot of fun. The Sophon quest has some great stuff in it!
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What's the best expansion oriented race? All my games I'm finding I'm just rushing to colonize every star that's habitable (because it's there and I don't want anyone else to have it! ) and then it's turn 50 and i have 13/6 colonies and am stuck in an endless revolution loop. Do people ignore systems that don't give them an actual benefit and just spot settle anything with resources / positive anomalies? Is there an "ideal" number of colonies to have before you lock down and pursue a victory (barring conquest)? Edit: I do take advantage of transvines and the happiness techs that exist but they only seem to do so much.
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The Unfallen are the best pure expansion species, IMO. Their colonies grow super fast because of their large food bonuses, and they're good at generating happiness with pacifist policies.
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I do like the Unfallen for sniping capital systems for a cheap conquest victory. Completely unrelated, is there a reason why there isn't a GalCiv thread? Especially with the recent expansion I would have thought some people played it, but it's it just too bland? Bad? I enjoy it but no one seems to play it anymore.
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stardock is really unpopular. personally, it never struck me as worth upgrading from the somewhat bland galciv 2 either
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