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Star Man posted:I took multimedia classes in all four years of high school from 2001-2005. My teacher knew about some grant money that was rarely utilized and would secure it year after year, so she had new Macs in the classroom almost every year. It was also the first place that I ever head the platitude that Mac OS was the better OS for multimedia than Windows was. Up until OSX mac was all built in house on Motorola (or was it Nokia?) processors. They didn't have to worry about intercompatibility with other manufacturer's hardware because there wasn't any. The entire OS was geared to their boards, their chips, their software. It made everything a boatload more efficient and they were actually better for multimedia. I remember in graphics class in high school having one of those candy colored macs with the built in CRT do video editing that a PC of an identical vintage couldn't touch. The Windows OS just required too much RAM compared to the Mac. The puck mouse was rad for photoshop, especially for tracing lines.
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Data Graham posted:But you could always dual-boot back to OS 9 and enjoy the stripped-down battle-hardened speed of an OS at the utter end of its development and advancement timeline, one ridden with uncountable inappropriately kernel-level code hacks designed for speed and resulting in system stability about like this: And yet I'd still load three rows worth of extensions for important stuff like adding Oscar the Grouch to my trashcan or have the Makin' Copies guy say "Makin' copies" every time I made a copy.
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The puck mouse was their first instance of "you're holding it wrong". It wasn't meant to be palmed at all, it was just supposed to be under your index and middle fingertips as if the table was a giant touchpad
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Jul 23, 2017 02:06
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There was seriously no better mouse when you were tracing lines to turn an image into a vector in graphics class.
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Breakfast Feud posted:Up until OSX mac was all built in house on Motorola (or was it Nokia?) processors. They didn't have to worry about intercompatibility with other manufacturer's hardware because there wasn't any. The entire OS was geared to their boards, their chips, their software. It made everything a boatload more efficient and they were actually better for multimedia. I remember in graphics class in high school having one of those candy colored macs with the built in CRT do video editing that a PC of an identical vintage couldn't touch. The Windows OS just required too much RAM compared to the Mac. They were PowerPC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC The software emulation layer that allowed Mac OS running on a PowerPC CPU to still run 68k apps was a work of Machiavellian complexity if ever there was one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_68k_emulator Where'd you get Nokia from?
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Vanagoon posted:The software emulation layer that allowed Mac OS running on a PowerPC CPU to still run 68k apps was a work of Machiavellian complexity if ever there was one: quote:One reason that this emulation was so successful is that many of the APIs for the Mac OS were originally implemented as traps on the 680x0 processor; therefore, calling an API actually was recognised by the 680x0 as the equivalent of an error condition, which would cause it to handle that error through one of its hardware vectors. In turn, this vector would look up and run the operating system routine from ROM or RAM. In the emulator, such traps could be replaced by native PowerPC code, so the only code being emulated was the application itself, and any system API it called could be accelerated with native PowerPC code. This also allowed Apple time to port the OS to the PowerPC. At first only time-critical aspects were rewritten in native code, leaving much of the OS emulated. Gradually most of the OS was rewritten to be native, so the OS got faster over time. Oh my god, I never knew about this.  This is like Orc technology
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I was too lazy to google and double check and too stupid to really differentiate motorola and nokia
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Techmoan keeps on finding the greatest old weird tech I would've murdered for back in the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdObeF9VHiA That engineering with all the tiny buttons, we'll never see stuff like this again 
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barbecue at the folks posted:Techmoan keeps on finding the greatest old weird tech I would've murdered for back in the day:
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TenementFunster posted:this guy owns and i love his bitchy passive-aggressive demeanor regarding youtube comments. i hope he never stops reading them. stay angry, you little british weirdo. That's the only way to address your audience: with contempt and hatred.
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I am not a fan of angry Youtube videos as they have to do their gimmick regardless of how good whatever the thing is. I much rather they be glib or humorous as that takes alot more talent to do. I don't like overly positive videos either since most are hyping up stuff to sell. I rather like LGR because he isn't extreme in either direction and talks about a item on it's own merits or lack thereof. I do hope LGR goes and reviews more games and tech tales as he hasn't done those for quite a while.
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oohhboy posted:I am not a fan of angry Youtube videos as they have to do their gimmick regardless of how good whatever the thing is. I much rather they be glib or humorous as that takes alot more talent to do. I don't like overly positive videos either since most are hyping up stuff to sell. I rather like LGR because he isn't extreme in either direction and talks about a item on it's own merits or lack thereof. I don't think I would classify Techmoan as angry youtube videos. He's just a guy really into old tech and dead and obscure media formats. I've never seen him get angry or anything. He just has a sense of humor about negative comments sometimes.
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GutBomb posted:I don't think I would classify Techmoan as angry youtube videos. Dude's just British. He's literally gone "This thing I bought was good, but <part> was broken so I bought another off of e-bay and that had a bad <hoozlebiffer>, so a week later I got a third unit and used the parts from the first two and it worked! I also took some time to clean out the greebles and lubricate the drive belts" with no significant anger or frustration.
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Techmoan is great, and he doesn't even really get mad at the negative comments, just kind of curmudgeonly. He's also responsible for one of my favorite moments of unintentional comedy ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dUkWf8gBkU
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Um. Which moment in the 7 minute video are you referring to?
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Data Graham posted:Um. Which moment in the 7 minute video are you referring to? The whole thing is pretty funny from a ridiculously inconvenient point of view. And after using the ridiculously huge step up/step down voltage transformer to make a 5 minute breakfast "I have no sense of taste"
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Data Graham posted:Um. Which moment in the 7 minute video are you referring to? Lol if you haven't't watched all of them and committed them to memory and recite parts back like catechism. He spends what looks to be an hour or so setting up and using a Hamilton Beach knockoff egg McMuffin maker only to go "I can't tell you what it tastes like, because I lost my sense of taste years ago, but my wife said it was good!"
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Ah, okay. I thought I remembered him mentioning that in other videos.  Watched the whole thing and was like "Uh... you mean the part where the egg got stuck to the top or"
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Jeez, I don't know how I would go on if I lost my sense taste.
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oohhboy posted:I am not a fan of angry Youtube videos as they have to do their gimmick regardless of how good whatever the thing is. I much rather they be glib or humorous as that takes alot more talent to do. I don't like overly positive videos either since most are hyping up stuff to sell. I rather like LGR because he isn't extreme in either direction and talks about a item on it's own merits or lack thereof. I like LGR, too, and would like to see more of that specific kind of content. I don't watch any of his "here's me showing off the free stuff people give me" videos because they make me jealous, but that's probably just a me-problem.
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Cojawfee posted:Jeez, I don't know how I would go on if I lost my sense taste. Thinner?
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Techmoan is great, and he doesn't even really get mad at the negative comments, just kind of curmudgeonly. lol this was truly a work of art. It's like a 6 minute build up, and as someone said what looks to be an hour of real time and by the end you just want to know wtf it tastes like and then BAM he announces his unfortunate condition and it's sublime...
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Buca di Bepis posted:I like LGR, too, and would like to see more of that specific kind of content. I don't watch any of his "here's me showing off the free stuff people give me" videos because they make me jealous, but that's probably just a me-problem.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_UbQa8Z_ec
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FilthyImp posted:The whole thing is pretty funny from a ridiculously inconvenient point of view. The secret he reveals next is that he is deaf. He loves VU meters and fancy lights so when he plugs it in he knows it's working.
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I love the Techmoan dude for being just an ordinary British person with a weird (and probably financially ruining) obsession for old AV tech, acting like all British men with boring odd hobbies do: with a serene ironic detachment from the outside world and wry irony towards everyone who happens to think what they do is stupid. For most Americans it seems to come off as contempt, for me it's a soothing balm after the forced positiveness and feigned excitement and OH LOL WACKINESS of American youtubers.
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barbecue at the folks posted:I love the Techmoan dude for being just an ordinary British person with a weird (and probably financially ruining) obsession for old AV tech, acting like all British men with boring odd hobbies do: with a serene ironic detachment from the outside world and wry irony towards everyone who happens to think what they do is stupid. For most Americans it seems to come off as contempt, for me it's a soothing balm after the forced positiveness and feigned excitement and OH LOL WACKINESS of American youtubers. The only thing that surprises me is that he doesn't store all his stuff in a garden shed, specifically one constructed to be one square centimeter smaller than he'd require planning permission for.
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Fil5000 posted:The only thing that surprises me is that he doesn't store all his stuff in a garden shed, specifically one constructed to be one square centimeter smaller than he'd require planning permission for. 
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I like Techmoan because he finds cool old technology, and his videos are easy to listen to and watch.
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barbecue at the folks posted:I love the Techmoan dude for being just an ordinary British person with a weird (and probably financially ruining) obsession for old AV tech, acting like all British men with boring odd hobbies do: with a serene ironic detachment from the outside world and wry irony towards everyone who happens to think what they do is stupid. For most Americans it seems to come off as contempt, for me it's a soothing balm after the forced positiveness and feigned excitement and OH LOL WACKINESS of American youtubers. I dunno. He's got a presumably decent enough day job in addition to ad and Patreon money. He's probably ok. Now the Youtube kids that try to replicate AVGN's collection of games and consoles without a tenth of his fanbase. They might find themselves in trouble sooner or later.
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Youtube comments are trash and pointing out that they're trash is a-ok with me.
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Talking of British retro tech youtubers, I don't recall if we've discussed Nostalgia Nerd here? Like LGR, 8bit-guy and Techmoan he's one of the few tech youtubers who creates long-form content worth watching, imo. eg. The ZX Spectrum Story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9dHI6EwWTU The Amiga Story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws3DJF7MbMU
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I like his "story" videos but he does some other where he will watch old episodes of Computer Chronicles and "riff" on them and they are painfully unfunny.
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Oh yeah, don't watch those. I honestly wasn't aware of them but his 'story' videos are always in my recommendations list Off-topic but did anyone else back Matt Gray's Reformation album? I'm just now getting round to giving it a listen and there are some seriously good remakes in there
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Mechanism Eight posted:Talking of British retro tech youtubers, I don't recall if we've discussed Nostalgia Nerd here? Like LGR, 8bit-guy and Techmoan he's one of the few tech youtubers who creates long-form content worth watching, imo. eg. Is the name "Nostalgia Nerd" like one of those Asylum rip off movies designed to confuse people into watching them on accident?
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Mechanism Eight posted:Talking of British retro tech youtubers, I don't recall if we've discussed Nostalgia Nerd here? Like LGR, 8bit-guy and Techmoan he's one of the few tech youtubers who creates long-form content worth watching, imo. eg. Kim Justice also has some pretty decent videos.
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barbecue at the folks posted:I love the Techmoan dude for being just an ordinary British person with a weird (and probably financially ruining) obsession for old AV tech, acting like all British men with boring odd hobbies do: with a serene ironic detachment from the outside world and wry irony towards everyone who happens to think what they do is stupid. For most Americans it seems to come off as contempt, for me it's a soothing balm after the forced positiveness and feigned excitement and OH LOL WACKINESS of American youtubers. So totally this. American Youtubers (and Americans in general really) Desperately need to take the loving happy helmet off. 
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Vanagoon posted:So totally this. American Youtubers (and Americans in general really) Desperately need to take the loving happy helmet off. Granted I pretty much never watch things unrelated to computers and gaming so maybe you are complaining about American YouTube Celebrities (ahaha!) writ large, in which case I have little useful to say.
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And hell, AVGN barely even does the Nerd videos anymore, it's mostly him playing random old games nowadays.
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Randaconda posted:And hell, AVGN barely even does the Nerd videos anymore, it's mostly him playing random old games nowadays. Does he still play them with his literal moron friend?
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