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Craig K posted:i mean, it's about a man with brain problems that's ten years past his prime so uh Future president Brock Lesnar.
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Craig K posted:i mean, it's about a man with brain problems that's ten years past his prime so uh brock lesnar had crippling diverticulitis but his brain is fine, and he is far from being past his prime, except when it comes to eating delicious prime ribs. please do not insult brock lesnar.
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incoherent posted:You know, we may be forcing the deaths of countless lives but man we're at least going out with fire-emoji level headlines. We can only assume that the tumor is in full control and trying to take out as many people as possible.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:brock lesnar had crippling diverticulitis but his brain is fine, and he is far from being past his prime, except when it comes to eating delicious prime ribs. please do not insult brock lesnar. my apologies mr heyman
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threeagainstfour posted:Brock ready to do his part to bail the UFC out of this string of PPV duds Brock moved to canada and gets free socialist healthcare. He's actually a funny healthcare story. He was training in canada for something when his diverticulitis first flared up. The canadian docs correctly diagnosed him, but he high tailed it back to montana and paid a king's ransom to eventually get a foot or two of his guts removed. He bitched about canadian care until he got to the states and his doctors told him the exact same thing after wasting a bunch of his money and then he shut up. Brock Lesnar moved to canada for the free healthcare.
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Now that amendments are open, can Sanders force a vote on single payer? I know it won't pass, but it will be a good way to see where Democratic Senators stand.
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Arkane posted:This bill is definitely gonna pass, it seems like? Skinny repeal seems to have a fairly good shot, yes.
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So a for-profit business has expressed concern that a large number of customers will no longer be forced to buy lovely plans?
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Arkane posted:So a for-profit business has expressed concern that a large number of customers will no longer be forced to buy lovely plans? The Republican plan was to make the insurance plans so lovely that they don't actually qualify as insurance and then punish people with a six month ban from buying real insurance when they finally need it.  (Not sure if this is still the plan, but it doesn't seem like even the GOP knows what its plan is.)
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Arkane posted:So a for-profit business has expressed concern that a large number of customers will no longer be forced to buy lovely plans? If you let young healthy people opt out of buying insurance, it drives up rates for the remaining pool of older, less healthy people. Our buy-in is necessary to subsidize the market for the needy. It also means young people who are unfortunate enough to have a major medical need after opting out of insurance get completely hosed. Obviously all of this is inferior to a functioning first-world healthcare system but that's not what we're picking between right now.
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Yeah I realized afterwards who I was responding to, but goddamn my ignore list is already bloated from casual D&D reading.
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McCain voted NO on full repeal. Holy poo poo.
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GeekyManatee posted:McCain voted NO on full repeal. Holy poo poo. https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/890304019624755202 Had no idea Alexander was going to vote against it.
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GeekyManatee posted:McCain voted NO on full repeal. Holy poo poo. He's only a maverick when it doesn't matter.
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GeekyManatee posted:McCain voted NO on full repeal. Holy poo poo. I'm legitimately shocked
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B B posted:The Republican plan was to make the insurance plans so lovely that they don't actually qualify as insurance and then punish people with a six month ban from buying real insurance when they finally need it. The penalties for not having continuous coverage were one of the items found to violate the Byrd Rule by the parliamentarian, so that piece presumably will be excised if we start to get to the point where a bill containing it is going towards a final vote.
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thefncrow posted:The penalties for not having continuous coverage were one of the items found to violate the Byrd Rule by the parliamentarian, so that piece presumably will be excised if we start to get to the point where a bill containing it is going towards a final vote. realistically, republicans would rather destroy the insurance markets than admit they were lying about the individual mandate
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Originally, the plan was to pass skinny repeal just to get to conference. Now: https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/890309239578787841
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evilweasel posted:realistically, republicans would rather destroy the insurance markets than admit they were lying about the individual mandate (# of people who are upset about being told they have to buy insurance) > (# of people who understand why the individual mandate is necessary for community rating/preexisting condition coverage to work) Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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B B posted:Originally, the plan was to pass skinny repeal just to get to conference. Now: its real dumb of him to say that out loud because there's probably a few people who were down with the conference plan but not down with skinny repeal being the only bill
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evilweasel posted:its real dumb of him to say that out loud because there's probably a few people who were down with the conference plan but not down with skinny repeal being the only bill Are you saying that Ron Johnson might get pissed off by being double-crossed by leadership and then still vote with them when the time comes? 
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B B posted:Are you saying that Ron Johnson might get pissed off by being double-crossed by leadership and then still vote with them when the time comes? Graham is one who has explicitly said he'd only vote for skinny repeal if his amendment was included in conference discussion.
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Arkane posted:Single payer will be an amendment, brought by Steve Daines....allegedly echoes of the time the house passed "well, ALL members of congress have to be on Obamacare then!" and the Senate sent back "sure"
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Arkane posted:Single payer will be an amendment, brought by Steve Daines....allegedly and it's been yanked by Schumer (I think) He just said no new amendments from Dems until Republicans unveil a final bill, which I suspect was just a guise that basically some of the Dems didn't want to be on the record on single-payer
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Arkane posted:Single payer will be an amendment, brought by Steve Daines....allegedly Arkane posted:and it's been yanked by Schumer (I think) quoting this so you can't edit it once you realize who steve daines is
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thefncrow posted:Even their new plan seems to be to run roughshod over the rules. McConnell will very likely insert the language of every amendment proposed, but struck-through, in his wraparound amendment at the end of this process. So it'll wind up being skinny repeal but with essentially everything that has ever been scored by the CBO lurking around inside it. McConnell has seriously changed entire bills before with the wraparound, so this is nothing new for him. In essence, making the Senate vote for skinny repeal but giving the HFC enough rope to hang themselves with since it wouldn't be considered new matter.
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evilweasel posted:quoting this so you can't edit it once you realize who steve daines is lol
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Hollismason posted:Wait what is the wrap around process again is that where they reintroduce amendments to the bill ? It refers to the fact that the final form that the bill takes is entirely in McConnell's hands, and all the up or down voting on amendments right now is symbolic and only serves to get people on the record in some form or another. In the 2015 reconciliation bill that they voted down yesterday, McConnell's final amendment began: quote:Strike all after the first word and insert the following: That's the wraparound amendment.
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evilweasel posted:quoting this so you can't edit it once you realize who steve daines is yeah i assumed he was a dem! turns out it is a troll it's the first thing they're voting on tomorrow
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evilweasel posted:quoting this so you can't edit it once you realize who steve daines is  Odd of Cornyn to give up the game so early. No reason to do that unless he's getting pressure, right?
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rand and probably lee/Moran at this point want the senate to pass skinny, house to pass it untouched and trump to sign it leadership wants to go to conference and get something AHCA/BCRA like Moderates want this whole thing to go away I have no idea who gets what they want but Collins/Murkowski are not gettable on anything so there's no room to wiggle there's still a nonzero possibility the senate passes nothing
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