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So I'm getting laid off in September and I'm completely ignorant to applying for jobs outside of my company. I've been with the same company for 12 years. I'm a bit freaked but am trying to be as optimistic as possible. I've read the OP and the first few pages, but was looking for some guidance on my resume 1) I never finished college, so I assume I can just leave education off completely? I have no certifications of any kind. 2) I understand that my roles names' in the real world are desktop support engineer and Remote Desktop support engineer. I would just speak to my capacity to work solo, work with multiple units/people at once, phone skills and ability to communicate technical concepts to non-technical people, and possibly my comfort with Macs in addition to PCs? 3) I have some sales experience from when I worked in-store, including my first year as a salesperson. Good to leave on for people skills/experience-sake? 4) I'm currently making a bit over 40k but have aspirations closer to 50k as I was kept relatively underpaid, compared to my skill level etc. At 11+yrs of hands on consumer and small biz support, is that too much? Too little?
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Jul 26, 2017 03:39
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Boywhiz88 posted:So I'm getting laid off in September and I'm completely ignorant to applying for jobs outside of my company. I've been with the same company for 12 years. 1) Yes, that's probably fine 2) Keep the role names as what they are at your place, but you can clarify what they equal to in your cover letter if you feel it's necessary. The tasks on the resume should clue them in otherwise. 3) Good to include if you think it's relevant for a position. If not, might not be valuable to mention. 4) I wouldn't put salary on a resume. I put it on the application. Not sure if your industry is different, though.
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Jul 26, 2017 17:51
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Boywhiz88 posted:So I'm getting laid off in September and I'm completely ignorant to applying for jobs outside of my company. I've been with the same company for 12 years. If possible show any growth or position changes with your current employer. You may even include these as separate subsections if the job responsibilities varied between them. It sounds like your entire career has been in deskside support, so from a technical foundation you're probably okay. Try and highlight your interpersonal skills and working relationships with your coworkers. A lot of companies really focus on this for end user support roles. Also, try not to mention a potential layoff situation because they could use that as an excuse to lowball you.
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Jul 26, 2017 19:13
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The Sean posted:1) Yes, that's probably fine Unfortunately the titles of Counter Intelligence Agent and Covert Agent would create some confusion, I suspect. I plan on keeping them in the resume as a talking point/demonstration that I buy (really buy) into company culture. On the salary, wasn't planning on putting that on the resume. I know that much at least, thankfully! Was just looking more for guidance on if I'm being realistic or pie in the sky. I'll try to finish a rough draft soon so I can get feedback. It's gonna come out anyway, but I work for the Geek Squad, to give you an idea of some of my experience. I pride myself on being a dedicated worker, so I am not and wasn't the kind of person to just restore an OS or tell you to buy a new whatever. I work hard for solutions while being a very positive person w clients. Sorry, doing a little pep talk for myself here. Thank you both for your replies 
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Jul 26, 2017 23:35
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Boywhiz88 posted:Unfortunately the titles of Counter Intelligence Agent and Covert Agent would create some confusion, I suspect. I plan on keeping them in the resume as a talking point/demonstration that I buy (really buy) into company culture. What's your geographical location? My girlfriend works at a major internet job search website and she searched their website for a couple years for a new gig until she decided to apply for a position at the job search company itself, and it has worked out amazingly for her career-wise. Explore all options! The company she's with has many departments including sales, finance, in-house IT support, client services, small business, QA, salary, operations, security, etc. You never know what's out there right under your nose in some cases e: re:resume; I'd couple your resume with a strong cover letter that points out your strengths that aren't as conveyable in a standard resume Rusty Shackleford fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Jul 27, 2017 02:09
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Rusty Shackleford posted:What's your geographical location? My girlfriend works at a major internet job search website and she searched their website for a couple years for a new gig until she decided to apply for a position at the job search company itself, and it has worked out amazingly for her career-wise. Explore all options! The company she's with has many departments including sales, finance, in-house IT support, client services, small business, QA, salary, operations, security, etc. You never know what's out there right under your nose in some cases The Twin Cities, so there's a lot of big companies and Geek Squad has a good rep as it came from the Cities.
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Jul 27, 2017 02:25
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I'm going in for an interview at a recruitment agency on Friday. I'm going to wear a suit, shave my beard, shower, try to look and smell like nice. What should I expect? I know that they work for the employer, not me, so I shouldn't expect them to be on my side. But what should I expect? I already had a phone interview which I think went well. It might have been so-so, in hindsight. It's hard to guage an interview where all they ask is my prefences. Regardless they asked me to come in so that's gotta mean something. They didn't say it was for any particular job and mostly just asked my preferences so I guess I'll see. Covok fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Jul 27, 2017 07:43
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Covok posted:I'm going in for an interview at a recruitment agency on Friday. I'm going to wear a suit, shave my beard, shower, try to look and smell like nice. What should I expect? I know that they work for the employer, not me, so I shouldn't expect them to be on my side. But what should I expect? Recruitment agencies get paid by the employer but they don't get paid unless they can fill a vacancy, so they kind of work for you and the employer. You should expect more questions about your employment history, specific skills, probably something about salary expectations or current salary (which you should probably demur on). Hopefully they'll have some vacancies lined up to discuss with you, too. They may want a copy of your CV/resume (depending on where in the world you are), and it's best to give them one in a read only format. A good recruiter will work out where you'll be a good fit and promote you to the companies with those roles. A bad recruiter will shotgun your CV to every employer offering roles that have one or two keywords in the job description (I've had so many business analyst roles pitched to me because my previous job titles have "analyst" in them, despite me having zero business analyst skills anywhere on my CV).
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Jul 27, 2017 10:32
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I had one of those before I got my new job. It's just a face-to-face kind of thing most likely. But you might get lucky. I went in for no actual job opportunity and a position came across their desk that day that I got. The kind of recruiter you meet in person is a million times better than the kind that cold calls you via email and barely speaks English.
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Jul 27, 2017 10:59
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I got a call back for a second interview at the university I applied with. It's scheduled for 1:00-4:30PM, which I'm assuming is a positive sign. Apparently I'll be meeting with the interview committee and then doing a tour of campus with the IT manager/dude I would replace. I feel at this point I have a very good chance of getting a job offer, but I'm not sure how to handle salary negotiations if it comes to that. I had to disclosed my current pay while applying for the job, however I wouldn't imagine that they would offer me something lower than what I currently make. They also have a burning desire to fill this position ASAP, which could be advantageous to me. Of course I expect that they'll come to me with "this is what our budget will allow" but surely they won't lowball me so much that it would drive me away from the position. I'm prepared to take a pay cut for the improvements in work/life balance and benefits. I'm not sure what the process is for public university job offers, but the length of time scheduled for the interview tells me that I could possibly receive an offer or at least talk money during the interview. Also, I'm prepping by doing some research on the department and coming with questions based on that. Is it good form to bring a notepad with me to take notes? I'm bad with names so I think it'd be a good idea to write down the names of whose speaking just to remember.
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Jul 27, 2017 19:31
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Good news: had a phone interview today that went well enough where they called me back two hours later to schedule an on-site interview  Not as good news: after originally telling me that they wanted me to come in next week, they now want me to come in week after next because the hiring manager will be out next week. This is a problem because I have an on-site interview elsewhere tomorrow and I have to imagine that if they like me, they will make an offer next week while I'm waiting to go interview at the second place. And while there's more research to be done on both leads, right now I think I'd rather take the one with the later interview (more relevant to my career interests, more useful skills to learn, 10k more base pay). Better start practicing my stall tactics! Vargatron posted:I got a call back for a second interview at the university I applied with. It's scheduled for 1:00-4:30PM, which I'm assuming is a positive sign. Apparently I'll be meeting with the interview committee and then doing a tour of campus with the IT manager/dude I would replace. I feel at this point I have a very good chance of getting a job offer, but I'm not sure how to handle salary negotiations if it comes to that. I always take notes during interviews. I have an easier time remembering something if I write it down and I have on one or two occasions pulled my notes back out after getting a job and said "well what about this thing we discussed in the interview?"
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Jul 27, 2017 20:20
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On a scale of "meh" to "just shoot myself now i'm never working again" how bad is it to turn down an offer I verbally accepted but didn't sign?
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Jul 27, 2017 22:52
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Should I expect a contract or something tomorrow? Meeting with Kforce, a recruitment company. Never used recruiters before.
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Jul 28, 2017 01:35
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There should not be a contract. You each have something to gain from the relationship. You shouldn't have anything really to sign unless you take a contract through them.
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Jul 28, 2017 02:23
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What do you put on your resume if your official title doesn't match your current job? HR gave everyone in my department new titles, and because I am in kind of a unique job within my company they gave me the same title as everyone else on my team. So now instead of being a vaguely-titled "analyst," I am officially a quantitative modeler. I don't know anything about quantitative modeling. If I put that I am a modeler on my resume, would it hurt me if I go out for other positions? I don't know if this new title is good or bad.
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Jul 28, 2017 03:04
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The point of your resume is to sell yourself, so just use a descriptive title.
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Jul 28, 2017 03:42
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That's what I would do, but I've been told that if my title on my resume doesn't match what HR confirms to the hiring company then I'd get red-flagged for lying on my resume. I mean, I could explain in an interview that my title and my job are mismatched, but I'm not confident that anything I say in an interview could be effectively communicated to the hiring company's HR department. Essentially what I'm worried about is two HR departments talking to each other about me.
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[quote="“Deadite”" post="“474796389”"] What do you put on your resume if your official title doesn’t match your current job? HR gave everyone in my department new titles, and because I am in kind of a unique job within my company they gave me the same title as everyone else on my team. So now instead of being a vaguely-titled “analyst,” I am officially a quantitative modeler. I don’t know anything about quantitative modeling. If I put that I am a modeler on my resume, would it hurt me if I go out for other positions? I don’t know if this new title is good or bad. [/quote] Yeah, I’m a network engineer and I looked up my new position title and it’s product support specialist. I sound like I’m selling patio furniture. gently caress that poo poo. Pick the one that sounds better or at the very least makes sense.
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Jul 28, 2017 11:26
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By the time it gets to the point where HR depts are calling each other and nitpicking titles (in the unlikely event that ever happens), you are well past the point where you should have established enough credibility with the interviewer(s) to make them feel like you know what you were doing. If it makes you feel better, talk about it in the interview. "Man we sure had some interesting titles at my last job..." In my 6+ years in recruiting, including the last year at a Fortune 100 bank with an ENORMOUS HR dept, I've never seen this happen. We all have day jobs! I could see that maybe happening in the gov't sector but otherwise from my viewpoint the only way you'll come under that kind of scrutiny is if we think you're fluffing up your credentials. And if we get that impression, we'll probably just decline you and not bother calling your HR dept.
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Jul 28, 2017 13:50
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I would be very not-cool with the HR department at a potential new employer calling my soon-to-be former employer and narcing me out like that. If something fell through and I ended up not taking the new job then I am going have a huge bullseye on me with my current employer. Or my current employer makes up some stuff to put me on blast and put doubt into the new company's head. Calling your current company before actually hiring you seems like a huge blunder by the new company, am I interpreting that incorrectly?
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Jul 28, 2017 14:15
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KernelSlanders posted:On a scale of "meh" to "just shoot myself now i'm never working again" how bad is it to turn down an offer I verbally accepted but didn't sign?
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Jul 28, 2017 14:54
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C-Euro posted:
I was just responding to his question, but you're right - that would be brutally wrong. He's just talking about verification/reference checks, which generally happen down the line. It's a huge no-no for any reputable company to damage the employment status of a candidate.
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Jul 28, 2017 15:11
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Large companies have 3rd parties that handle employment verification. You can be verified for a variety of reasons that don't always mean you're leaving, like buying a house. Smaller businesses can be a little trickier.
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Jul 28, 2017 17:40
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Hmm I got an interview with a casino. What would be a good answer to the generic "What makes you interested in working for us?" question.
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Jul 28, 2017 18:04
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lol internet. posted:Hmm I got an interview with a casino. I need some money fast.
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Jul 28, 2017 18:16
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lol internet. posted:Hmm I got an interview with a casino. "I just got off of the reservation"
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Jul 28, 2017 18:23
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lol internet. posted:Hmm I got an interview with a casino. Ask them what the odds are you're getting the job.
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lol internet. posted:Hmm I got an interview with a casino. "I was assigned to be the inside man in a heist in 2019. Perhaps you could buy my loyalty before then?" Sprint called me yesterday to tell me that I'm a finalist for one of two positions that they were going to fill this week, but due to vacations and blah blah they won't know until probably the end of next week. I'm guessing 3 possibilities: 1) That's the truth. 2) I'm being backburnered to see if one of their other two candidates back out. 3) The two directors (each hiring one of the positions) are hashing out who gets who and what categories they'd be responsible for. Either way, whatever, working for Sprint is not like a dream of mine, so the pay is gonna have to really be impressive to make up for their poo poo rear end benefits.
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Jul 28, 2017 18:46
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So, after getting an email requesting a phone interview, and emailing back my availability, I get an email saying there's been a "slight change", with the position and the persons manager, name given, will be in touch. My first instinct is they already have someone else, but it seems like a really weird and roundabout way of saying no thank you. Any thoughts, anyone?
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Jul 29, 2017 00:48
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Dark Helmut posted:I was just responding to his question, but you're right - that would be brutally wrong. He's just talking about verification/reference checks, which generally happen down the line. It's a huge no-no for any reputable company to damage the employment status of a candidate. OK so I'm reading that wrong, good to hear. Anyway, I feel really good about the interview that I had today. Except I was told up-front that if they liked me, I'd be brought back in for a second interview where I'd talk to a couple of executives and C-suite types (they're a smaller company so this is a little more understandable to me). Any suggestions? I can't imagine too many technical questions, and I didn't get too many behavioral/STAR-type questions today. Maybe the big dogs want to ask me those?
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Natty Ninefingers posted:So, after getting an email requesting a phone interview, and emailing back my availability, I get an email saying there's been a "slight change", with the position and the persons manager, name given, will be in touch. Occam's razor.. maybe they screwed up the job listing or title and after rehashing it with the hiring manager, they decided to change it and notify people they already scheduled interviews for. I think in a lot of cases HR writes/edits job postings in collaboration with the hiring manager.
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Jul 29, 2017 02:46
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I have an interview Monday morning with the company I'm currently working for. My position is temporary, and the one I'm applying for is a permanent position in the same department. My current bosses are going to be the ones interviewing me. I've never done an interview with someone I'm already working for. Any tips?
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Jul 29, 2017 05:09
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Any tips for interviewing with people you already know for a job you already know? Not sure any of us internet jockeys can prepare you better than several months in the role. Uhhh, be yourself? Take it seriously and make them believe it's the right move for them and for you.
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This is weird and tangential but... How do you folks handle waiting for the call back? My second interview went great but they said they'd be making a decision next week. This is kinda my current dream job, and the first real career prospect I've had kinda ever (as opposed to A Job For Now). How do you manage to not lose your mind with anxiety while you wait to learn what the future looks like?
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Jul 29, 2017 06:09
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Dark Helmut posted:Not sure any of us internet jockeys can prepare you better than several months in the role. Fair enough. I just imagine the interview questions are going to be less "tell us about yourself" and more about my time there and what I can bring to this new role, right?
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Jul 29, 2017 06:12
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In my experience, expect to be used to some degree as a trial run. I was in the same situation, and I got asked some oddball and redundant questions that I later found out were "experimental". My wife was in a same situation, and was asked to do a phone interview where her coworkers went to a conference room and then called her. The first fifteen minutes were spent with them cutting in and out as they argued over how none of them could get the phone system to work. If the position is for a government job, expect a bit of kabuki and mummery in the questions you get asked, as anti-nepotism/fair candidacy rules are strict. Answer all questions seriously, take the interview seriously. Dress up. If you're doing physical labor bring a change of clothes. Prepare a true case of your accomplishments, and probably an answer to the question of what you can do better that your boss is already thinking of, along with an unprompted plan for improvement. You have a heck of a leg up, but make it clear you are not taking it for granted.
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Jul 29, 2017 07:48
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If you've been doing the role as a contractor or temp then they may ask where you see yourself in 2 years or how you want to grow within the company. There's a very different mindset between temp and permanent roles. My last temp job lasted 3 years and I never had a yearly review because what's the point? That changes with a full time gig and they may want to know how you plan to advance and grow within the company.
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Krispy Kareem posted:If you've been doing the role as a contractor or temp then they may ask where you see yourself in 2 years or how you want to grow within the company. To add on to this, I would take stock of all the projects and work you've done so far. STAR those situations. Talk about how you've brought value to the company and how you could add even more in a permanent position using the skills you've developed and institutional knowledge you've gained during your time there. Explaining why you feel like you've been a good fit from a cultural perspective and how seamlessly you could transition into a permanent position is good to mention too. Like someone else mentioned above, dress up and treat it like a formal interview at an outside firm. It's small stuff like this that demonstrates you really care and truly want the position for the right reasons. And yeah, be yourself and carry the confidence you've been working there for a while and they are interested in keeping you on simply by virtue of interviewing you. Good luck Fireside Nut fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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