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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Lastgirl posted:

please help me balance my healthcare, my economy is dying

"enact single payer"

"no"

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Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
/give healthcare
/send healthcare
/make healthcare free



poo poo guys, I'm running out of ideas

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Shinjobi posted:

/give healthcare
/send healthcare
/make healthcare free



poo poo guys, I'm running out of ideas

you have to
/flush dems
first

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Office Pig posted:

well yeah i'm not going to stick my neck out for the guy who pushed us into southeast asia for some asinine french colonial experiment
The man you're looking for there is Eisenhower

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Willa Rogers posted:

more pearls of wisdom from bad-dem research


Workers: Servants, cooks, y'know, "the staff".

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
woah my red text went away leaving only the text-relevant av, Nice.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

it looks like Pee Wee Herman imo

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

jBrereton posted:

Workers: Servants, cooks, y'know, "the staff".

the help

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
It's S-Club 7's Paul Cattermole, I believe.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
We = You and your betters

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

that's what makes dutch angle pee wee so economy off kilter

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/nkulw/status/890553223215546368

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

GalacticAcid posted:

I mean on account of Vietnam lbj sucked pretty hard, my man

honestly was he worse on foreign policy than obummer or hildog?

steinrokkan posted:

Disclaimer: For some definitions of "wanted"

god fuckin dammit, if we could get a socialist party to run and get 30% of voters we'd stomp dems and repubs every time, since they only get 26%

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
This, but in America and every time it goes to grey they're sentenced to death by guillotine:

https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/890512963123245057

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

:)

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

got any sevens posted:

honestly was he worse on foreign policy than obummer or hildog?

Worse than Obama, about the same as Hillary

But he def. blows them out of the water, lol Tonkin, in terms of civil rights and just generally being effective.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Willa Rogers posted:

more pearls of wisdom from bad-dem research



I can understand some of these. No one in the white trash glorious real america thinks they're poor, because poor is for blacks.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

anime was right posted:

why are they even avoiding those terms, idgi

either they focus-group poorly (keeping in mind that they're probably concentrating their focus grouping on well-off suburban whites!), the replacement terms humanize or personalize the situation more, or they're afraid the terms might lead people farther left than the Dems are willing to go

for example, they could be avoiding "war on poverty" because suburban upper-middle-class whites don't consider themselves poor and they sure as poo poo don't care about helping the poor, whereas "barriers to success" is more friendly to the rest of the class spectrum, and "obstacles to economic stability" appeals particularly to the middle-class and above who already have a good job and plenty of money and just need the market to stay stable so their investments don't tank. it's an intentionally selfish framing that explicitly avoids any hint of helping the disadvantaged, instead focusing entirely on how to selfishly appeal to the personal concerns of a white 40-something that makes at least $80k a year. that comes up in a lot of the other replacements, too. for example, replacing "seniors on Medicare" with "your sick mother" - it completely wipes away any hint of other Americans and focuses it entirely on the person's own family.

also, a lot of the rest are clearly just meant to protect capitalism by busting up class consciousness and avoiding any hint that there might be problems with our overall system. it perfectly fits with the Democratic leadership's opinion that market capitalism is fine and cool and good and just needs to be tweaked and regulated slightly to clamp down on those greedy cheaters who circumvent the free market. to the strain of Dems that run the party, exploitation of workers is something that only happens as a result of individual bad actors

Shinjobi posted:

/give healthcare
/send healthcare
/make healthcare free



poo poo guys, I'm running out of ideas

give you the opportunity to purchase at a fair market rate the insurance that works best for your family

trim that down a bit and it's something that'd come right out of a consultant's bullshit hole

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

I can understand some of these. No one in the white trash glorious real america thinks they're poor, because poor is for blacks.

Bruh, how many times do I have to say this to you? YOU ARE THE WHITE TRASH

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
White trash like you got Trump elected.

The poor rural whites, who you want dead, don't even vote.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Frijolero posted:

Bruh, how many times do I have to say this to you? YOU ARE THE WHITE TRASH

I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... any more than there is for you. Malcolm... I'm a monster. What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
the suburban retards that hillary thought she could win with Logic voted for trump hth

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Frijolero posted:

White trash like you got Trump elected.

The poor rural whites, who you want dead, don't even vote.

Most of the time no but boy howdy did they come out for Mr Kills the Mexicans guy

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

got any sevens posted:

honestly was he worse on foreign policy than obummer or hildog?




Yea

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Frijolero posted:

Bruh, how many times do I have to say this to you? YOU ARE THE WHITE TRASH

kaz... I'm already a redneck *grills while wearing only flip flops and denim short shorts*

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

GalacticAcid posted:

the suburban retards that hillary thought she could win with Logic voted for trump hth

clearly that just means the Dems have to pander harder

they're desperate to pick off the moderate voters who don't really care either way on any issues. never mind the fact those voters don't exist

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Main Paineframe posted:

either they focus-group poorly (keeping in mind that they're probably concentrating their focus grouping on well-off suburban whites!)


this is pretty much it. the only people the dems try to appeal to are upper-middle-class white professionals.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Main Paineframe posted:

clearly that just means the Dems have to pander harder

they're desperate to pick off the moderate voters who don't really care either way on any issues. never mind the fact those voters don't exist

No they do, it's just that actually taxes is their single issue. And the GOP will always be "better" on that because they're going to dissolve the government

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Did you get your invitation
There's going to be a public hanging
And the bodies will swing side by side
And it's just I and I


(Switching it up with some Alejandro Escovedo today)

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

The trick is to return to the base of unions, minorities, women, and working poor by offering living minimum wage, single payer, and higher taxes on the rich.


It's not to appeal to the humanity of billy ray sue

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



zegermans posted:

The trick is to return to the base of unions, minorities, women, and working poor by offering living minimum wage, single payer, and higher taxes on the rich.


It's not to appeal to the humanity of billy ray sue

but will that solve racism?

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

The trick is to return to the base of unions, minorities, women, and working poor by offering living minimum wage, single payer, and higher taxes on the rich.


It's not to appeal to the humanity of billy ray sue

lol you still buy the whole "BernOuts want to appeal to racists" fear?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Frijolero posted:

lol you still buy the whole "BernOuts want to appeal to racists" fear?

more the belief that they'll buy into socialism while black people still exist.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

but will that solve racism?

no but fentanyl will.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

zegermans posted:

no but fentanyl will.


you should consider killing yourself

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


zegermans posted:

more the belief that they'll buy into socialism while black people still exist.

they won't buy into socialism, but of you offer them free healthcare and other poo poo that directly improved their lives only the most hardcore crossburners will pass it up because it helps those so and so's on the other side of town. mind you they'll try to take it away from the others later, but for getting it passed they won't say a drat thing.

mind you my experiences are based off the southeast the Midwest is worse in a lot of ways imo.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

zegermans posted:

no but fentanyl will.

If you found me hanging
Without a prayer
Would you cut me down
And lay me there

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

We used to talk about these days
We used to say they'd never happen
Well, now that they've happened
It makes no difference who I am

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Serf
May 5, 2011


Agean90 posted:

they won't buy into socialism, but of you offer them free healthcare and other poo poo that directly improved their lives only the most hardcore crossburners will pass it up because it helps those so and so's on the other side of town. mind you they'll try to take it away from the others later, but for getting it passed they won't say a drat thing.

mind you my experiences are based off the southeast the Midwest is worse in a lot of ways imo.

worked for huey long

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