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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Guy Goodbody posted:

I can kinda see Guns of Navarone in that characters have to blow something up that's related to a big gun at the end, and everybody dies like in Saving Private Ryan, and The Dirty Dozen in they are both movies featuring multiple characters, but that still seems like a stretch.

It isn't a stretch at all. Those films are direct inspirations.

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Paladinus posted:

It isn't a stretch at all. Those films are direct inspirations.

If they were so inspired by those good movies, then why is Rogue One bad?

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Captain Lavender posted:

Aside from it being about video games, and Jack being 50% of the people in it, I think Pre-Rec bothers me because of how self-assured Rich is. I think I need him desperately making jokes to impress Mike and Jay, and him being on the verge of emotional breakdown at their whim.

On the PreRec stream last night, Rich was telling Jack a story about how one time on the Half in the Bag set he cut his hand really bad and was bleeding all over. Jay and Mike just told Rich to get the gently caress off the set because he was bleeding all over it.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Guy Goodbody posted:

If they were so inspired by those good movies, then why is Rogue One bad?

Because Disney said they should make it choke-full of Star Wars nerdbait, because they thought a straight-up war movie centred on new characters wouldn't have worked.

E: Phantom Menace was inspired by old Bible movies.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
It seemed incredibly obvious to me that Rogue One was doing WW2 raid movie in space. Those kinds of things are as much a part of the original trilogy as the sci-fi serials, the trench run is Dambusters. As a pitch of a Star Wars stand alone it's pretty good, they just ballsed up the execution by cramming in too many characters and not having enough time to develop them for anyone to give a poo poo about their sacrifices.

"X genre, but Star Wars" is going to be what all the stand alones are, and with the right writing/production any of those could be half decent. I would enjoy the hell out of a properly done Colditz/Great Escape film in the Star Wars universe, for instance.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Tsaedje posted:


"X genre, but Star Wars" is going to be what all the stand alones are

Romantic Comedy but Star Wars
Australian soap opera but Star Wars
70s variety show but Star wa... oh.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Guy Goodbody posted:

If they were so inspired by those good movies, then why is Rogue One bad?

Those movies had consistent, well drawn characters who you unconsciously identify with and thus are drawn into the movie because you care on some level about their actions and their fate. Rogue one substituted interesting and consistent characters for constantly shifting archetypes whose motivations were unclear and padded out the time that would normally be devoted to understanding those characters with nostalgia pornography.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
plseae stopp talking about star wars!!

Im so tired of the star wars!!

i CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...


Clapping Larry

Zzulu posted:

plseae stopp talking about star wars!!

Im so tired of the star wars!!

i CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zzulu posted:

plseae stopp talking about star wars!!

Im so tired of the star wars!!

i CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

Are you excited for next year's Mazinger Z reboot?

HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:

King Vidiot posted:

On the PreRec stream last night, Rich was telling Jack a story about how one time on the Half in the Bag set he cut his hand really bad and was bleeding all over. Jay and Mike just told Rich to get the gently caress off the set because he was bleeding all over it.

lmao

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Zzulu posted:

plseae stopp talking about star wars!!

Im so tired of the star wars!!

i CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

why are you in the starwarsnerdsbitchforeverinavideo thread then

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Want a bite of that juicy USDA Jay Grade Jay Meat

Vaguido
Feb 22, 2011

When the drug test comes back positive for performance enhancing drugs.
Should I see Atomic Blonde? I saw Valerian last week and hated it so I want to see a movie that isn't bad this week. Thanks in advance.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Vaguido posted:

Should I see Atomic Blonde? I saw Valerian last week and hated it so I want to see a movie that isn't bad this week. Thanks in advance.

Watch Star Wars.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Vaguido posted:

Should I see Atomic Blonde? I saw Valerian last week and hated it so I want to see a movie that isn't bad this week. Thanks in advance.

Go see Atomic Blonde we can talk about it tonight.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
James McAvoy is in it and he talked up how there's a scene where he and Charlize Theron have a sexy fight.

vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up
'It' trailer is out. It's directed by...uh...and starring...um...but 1/3rd of the credit of the screenplay is the guy that directed True Detective's first season...but I guess he left production cause the studio was slashing the budget and making changes.

I really want it to not be that bad.

vermin fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jul 27, 2017

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

What the... Why is Mike plastic from the waist down?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I hate it when fan artists don't get mike's elf ears right.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

a bone to pick posted:

What the... Why is Mike plastic from the waist down?

Lol if you don't get that reference.

HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:

Vaguido posted:

Should I see Atomic Blonde? I saw Valerian last week and hated it so I want to see a movie that isn't bad this week. Thanks in advance.

You could see Dunkirk? I've heard good things and I'm going tonight. I feel like even if you're not a big Christopher Nolan fan, you kinda can't argue that he doesn't make good films. Like, there's some dumb stuff in Interstellar (and Interception) but it's objectively well-made and entertaining for most of its runtime. All of his movies are.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

a bone to pick posted:

What the... Why is Mike plastic from the waist down?

its a toy story shot

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
drat, it's not coming to mind right now.

I'm transfixed on Jay's nipples now.

Wall Balls
Jun 3, 2007

Spanish Castle Magic

HoAssHo posted:

You could see Dunkirk? I've heard good things and I'm going tonight. I feel like even if you're not a big Christopher Nolan fan, you kinda can't argue that he doesn't make good films. Like, there's some dumb stuff in Interstellar (and Interception) but it's objectively well-made and entertaining for most of its runtime. All of his movies are.

dunkirk took my imax cherry last night and it was very good. it has that fury road thing where it's very little dialogue and mostly visual storytelling. mayyybe the best looking movie i've ever seen?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it's still laughably dumb that the exhaust port was put there on purpose. the entire point was the empire lost their giant battle station due to hubris! you ruined it!

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Groovelord Neato posted:

it's still laughably dumb that the exhaust port was put there on purpose. the entire point was the empire lost their giant battle station due to hubris! you ruined it!

But everything in starwars has to be connected, preferably by blood.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
If it was an intentional weakness, why did the guy design it so it was a shot that literally required magic to pull off?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Guy Goodbody posted:

If it was an intentional weakness, why did the guy design it so it was a shot that literally required magic to pull off?

Because his adoptive father's cousin's wife designed the targeting systems on x-wings and was also force sensitive and knew that the right farm boy using the force sitting in the pilot's seat could pull it off. There's a whole comic series about it.

vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up

Groovelord Neato posted:

it's still laughably dumb that the exhaust port was put there on purpose. the entire point was the empire lost their giant battle station due to hubris! you ruined it!

"I used to bullseye womp-rats in my T16 back home. All people from Tatooine used to bullseye womp-rats. It's a right of passage. I once had to do it in a planet-wide contest to save my uncle's moisture farm from being bought by Jabba the Hutt. It burned out my last power converter. That's where I first heard about Ben Kenobi, the crazy old man that lived alone in the desert. But yeah, womp-rats are pretty much two meters wide."

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

Guy Goodbody posted:

If it was an intentional weakness, why did the guy design it so it was a shot that literally required magic to pull off?

I think the actual answer is so that Imperial oversight would gloss over it or something. Make it so small of a flaw that it can be written off as a mistake.

How that'd help the Rebellion without a force-sensitive boy, who knows? But I think that was their explanation.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it's a dumb explanation. it was fine the way it was.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.
I'm not saying it's a good explanation. Making the flaw a purpose-built kill switch for a potential future rebellion rather than genuine oversight is incredibly stupid and kinda makes a lot of the first movie kinda pointless. Hell, with what happened in Rogue One, it would make more sense if the Empire started poring over their plans to see what flaw they might've overlooked since the Rebels went so far out of their way to get a specific set of plans made by a traitor, rather than just being a group of randos just looking for what plans they could get and figuring it'd do them no good.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Well that's why they put Rogue One literally three days before A New Hope starts. Set the timelines so close together that the Empire doesn't have time to find a solution because it will get blown up by the week's end.

Hell Yeah
Dec 25, 2012

:yikes:

vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up

SpacePig posted:

I'm not saying it's a good explanation. Making the flaw a purpose-built kill switch for a potential future rebellion rather than genuine oversight is incredibly stupid and kinda makes a lot of the first movie kinda pointless. Hell, with what happened in Rogue One, it would make more sense if the Empire started poring over their plans to see what flaw they might've overlooked since the Rebels went so far out of their way to get a specific set of plans made by a traitor, rather than just being a group of randos just looking for what plans they could get and figuring it'd do them no good.

Mads Mikkelsen's plan really does reveal that he might have done exactly what he did. It makes me of think back to that Evil Overlord list and the steps any giant evil military would've taken.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Groovelord Neato posted:

it's still laughably dumb that the exhaust port was put there on purpose. the entire point was the empire lost their giant battle station due to hubris! you ruined it!

WE HAD TO FIX THE PLOTHOLE, GROOVELORD NEATO

YOU CAN'T HAVE GLARING PLOTHOLES LIKE THAT IN THE AGE OF THE INTERNET

YOU'LL LOSE RESPECT FROM THE FANS

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
You just need to accept that it's canon.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the prequels - rogue one included - are as canon as skinny rich and fat jay are.

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