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thespaceinvader posted:Nah you want Primed not Pattern. Works the same but you can BB8 whilst stressed and get actions after trolling through debris or when subject to stress control. Man, that's a cool Poe, you gain a lot even if you give up regen.
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hoiyes posted:Man, that's a cool Poe, you gain a lot even if you give up regen. Getting an evade token most rounds is roughly equivalent to regen.
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Jul 27, 2017 11:39
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thespaceinvader posted:Getting an evade token most rounds is roughly equivalent to regen. True but r2d2 + comm relay is double regen.
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Jul 27, 2017 11:44
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hoiyes posted:True but r2d2 + comm relay is double regen. This. I know the BB-8less Poe is less maneuverable, but having regen outweighs maneuverability IMO. If Poe was dropping bombs or a high red dice roller, I could see re positioning being favored. My thought is I just want Poe to survive and be annoying.
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Jul 27, 2017 13:16
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hoiyes posted:True but r2d2 + comm relay is double regen. Except without the ability to get both tokens in one round you're at real risk of wasting 5 points on Intensity and Comm Relay. Things which steal your focus token are pretty common.
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I'd pretty much always go BB-8, because being able to maneuver and not get shot is better then getting shot then having to run away to get a shield back and since your opponent knows that you aren't going to get a shot off next turn but they pretty much know where you are going to be so you will get shot again. Also, The second I see Regen across from me, that poo poo gets focused down HARD. enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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enigmahfc posted:Also, The second I see Regen across form me, that poo poo gets focused down HARD. You'd be making a mistake. Comm regen poe is hard to focus down, 3 straight boost + focus to flee while Dash it hitting for 4.The way to beat it is kill dash and have more than 45 on the table after, him being a points bank is a part of it.
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I will let people go after regen Poe all day long. Having a focus plus an evade and autothrusters if I stay at range 3, I am ok with that. Also doing a bank one to regen, then boosting another bank one gets you out of a lot of large based primary firing arcs if they are right behind you range 1 before Poe moves. While Poe is being chased taking hits/regenning, a heavy hitter like Dash comes from behind throwing his 4 dice with a focus from Rey and a target lock. All in all, there is no "correct" way to trick out Poe IMO. It is a matter of what you want to do with him.
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That said the best T-70 is snap stress numb.
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thespaceinvader posted:Except without the ability to get both tokens in one round you're at real risk of wasting 5 points on Intensity and Comm Relay. Things which steal your focus token are pretty common. He said R2-D2 not R5-P9 though? I'm not following on how stealing a focus token disrupts that regen.
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hoiyes posted:You'd be making a mistake. Comm regen poe is hard to focus down, 3 straight boost + focus to flee while Dash it hitting for 4.The way to beat it is kill dash and have more than 45 on the table after, him being a points bank is a part of it. That's what bombs are for! I hate bombs but I am playing them now because i am a Try Hard piece of poo poo Actually, regen Poe may be able to weather bombs better then most simply because he gets those shields back. But your not wrong about focusing down Poe. Best thing to do is focus on Dash while Poe flees, i guess. It really depends on how the person fielding the list flies. enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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enigmahfc posted:That's what bombs are for! I am hoping the intensity regen Poe is kind of a counter to bombs.
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Someone on Reddit claims to have info about the next FAQ. One of the mods says he was provided something convincing him it's true. https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/6pwctu/xwing_faq_leak/ quote:Jumpmaster5000: Remove the Salvaged Astromech Slot Remove the Illicit Slot Remove the torpedo slot
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Jumpmaster changes seem pretty fair. Kills the underpriced torpedo boat Scout while leaving Dengar untouched. Advanced Slam change is cool and good
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Someone on Reddit claims to have info about the next FAQ. One of the mods says he was provided something convincing him it's true. Wowzers. Will we see Imperial arc dodging aces again?
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TheCenturion posted:I've never used SLAM/ASLAM myself, though I've flown against them a lot. What does this change actually do/mean? No action bombs from ASLAM means that the places where you can place bombs with a K-Wing are much reduced.
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So with new mindlink can you have 2 pairs of mindlinked ships that only work with each other or is it just 2 mindlinks in your list period?
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banned from Starbucks posted:So with new mindlink can you have 2 pairs of mindlinked ships that only work with each other or is it just 2 mindlinks in your list period?
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Tekopo posted:Basically ASLAM allows you to perform a free action after SLAMing. If you restrict the free action to action bar actions (like PtL does), it means that you can't fire bombs that require actions to drop. Ah, so in theory: they used to be able to move, slam to move again, bomb; now they can move, slam, then focus/evade/boost/barrel roll/target lock, depending on what's on their bar?
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Those are all reasonable changes, though I still want Mirandas regen to go to primary only. TLT regen is BS.
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TheCenturion posted:Ah, so in theory: they used to be able to move, slam to move again, bomb; now they can move, slam, then focus/evade/boost/barrel roll/target lock, depending on what's on their bar? Yeah, it basically kills action bombs after advanced SLAM, which with Sabine crew made it pretty trivial to drop bombs and get guaranteed damage in a lot of places. Self quoting my effort post on the topic canyoneer posted:http://randolphw.github.io/echolocation/
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The K-Wing would still be able to SLAM and bomb with Experimental Interface at the cost of a stress, yeah?
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DogCop posted:The K-Wing would still be able to SLAM and bomb with Experimental Interface at the cost of a stress, yeah? I suppose so, yeah
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DogCop posted:The K-Wing would still be able to SLAM and bomb with Experimental Interface at the cost of a stress, yeah? Aren't this both Mods?
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Slandible posted:Aren't this both Mods? The K-Wing gets SLAM naturally, Advanced SLAM just lets you take an action after doing a SLAM.
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DogCop posted:The K-Wing would still be able to SLAM and bomb with Experimental Interface at the cost of a stress, yeah? No can do. They're both Modifications. Edit: Well, ASlam and EI are mods. SLAM itself is an action, so yes you could. Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Strobe posted:He said R2-D2 not R5-P9 though? I'm not following on how stealing a focus token disrupts that regen. Also, you HAVE to boost to get your token, so you can easily be forced into overshooting. Admiral Joeslop posted:Someone on Reddit claims to have info about the next FAQ. One of the mods says he was provided something convincing him it's true. I'm a little disappointed with all of these, and very disappointed if that's the extent of the changes. ASLAM should give stress. Jumps need a points increase and to lose the EPT, anything else is just bandaiding further. Mindlink is basically dead in this format. It kills it for everyone. Whilst all-generic four-ship mindlink hasn't ever hurt anyone and is hella fun. 
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Slandible posted:Aren't this both Mods? Ship has SLAM on action bar, just need to swap out Advanced for Experimental and good to go.
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If true, that mindlink nerf kills the card entirely. But at least imperial aces have a chance again if that aslam nerf is true. Nym is still gonna be a good counter, but at least it's possible to outfly him.
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alg posted:If that FAQ is true it would really make the game fun again The meta is in a good state When Soontir can make top 8
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canyoneer posted:The meta is in a good state Soontir made top 4 at Mustafar open. He lost to the eventual champion, but really shouldn't have. It seriously came down to dice. I rarely say that, but it was so true in that game.
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If all that is true I might start playing again. It's been a few months.
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Drop advanced slam for experimental interface and you get to do the same exact thing but with just a stress. They couldn't just add getting stressed after the free action from advanced slamming?
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lazerus06 posted:Drop advanced slam for experimental interface and you get to do the same exact thing but with just a stress. They could, but with EI that means your only action can be bombing or Seismic Torpedoes after SLAM
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The Contracted Scout is dead. Long live the Lok Revenant. Lok Revenant (26) Deadeye (1) Dorsal Turret (3) Plasma Torpedoes (3) Guidance Chips (0) Total: 33
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canyoneer posted:They could, but with EI that means your only action can be bombing or Seismic Torpedoes after SLAM Does anyone do anything other than an action based bomb after advanced slamming?
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I'm ok with experimental interface allowing the bomb drop for the following reasons. 1. It's unique. No more multiple k-wing bombers. 2. It gives stress. The ship what drops the bomb is a sitting duck the next round, and can't just SLAM a couple of range three maneuvers to reset. 3. It costs more.
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lazerus06 posted:Does anyone do anything other than an action based bomb after advanced slamming? Focus and TL when youre running or trying to set up a missile shot next round.
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